Not as much as you would think because of engineering program’s efforts to over compensate and attract women. |
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+1 Your counselor should be able to give you an idea if applying ED to Amherst is worth it. |
Less revenue for the two school years in a row. Considering how generous aid is at Amherst, applicants with high stats who are paying full freight are more beneficial than usual. |
For the millionth time, Amherst College is need blind in admissions, as are most top 20 schools. Full pay gives no advantage there. With a top 10 Endowment per student of $1,157,046, they will make no changes to that policy. https://www.collegeraptor.com/college-rankings/details/EndowmentPerStudent |
But all of that (need-blind/financial aid/merit aid) is going to be in flux now due to COVID. Many SLACs are going to have to revamp their financial aid packages and/or dip into endowment to survive. My own SLAC is one of those listed as "will struggle". I've been hit up five times already for money. Granted my SLAC isn't Amherst but there will still be major changes coming due to the pandemic - much of it good. |
Struggling LACs aren’t need blind. |
| I am an alum of a selective SLAC, although not Amherst-tier. Let's say Colby-tier. I know first-hand that our need blind college is financially challenged, even with a strong endowment. If they need to send kids home this year, or if this pandemic continues to impact programming into the 2021-2022 academic year, I think need the blind policy might need to be re-evaluated, at least for waitlist candidates. |
I know you are not saying otherwise, but Colby is not need blind. So if your college is need-blind, it is likely above "Colby tier" (which is a high tier indeed). This sub-thread has spun off but the need-blind statements made were specifically about Amherst, and the endowment per student data was presented and linked to show that Amherst is unlikely to change that policy regardless of reduced enrollment for this year. |
they never said Colby. I went to a SLAC that's top 10 according to us news, but not Amherst, so similar to Colby. We're need blind, but I know from friends both on the board and working there that there is a big concern that they won't be able to stay need bling. A lot of people are underestimating the damage covid is doing to budgets even of well endowed schools |
Assuming you are DP. Please read what was typed. PP absolutely "said colby" as in "colby-tier". I responded "I know you are not saying otherwise, but Colby is not need blind. So if your college is need-blind, it is likely above "Colby tier" This sub-thread has spun off but the need-blind statements made were specifically about Amherst, and the endowment per student data was presented and linked to show that Amherst is unlikely to change that policy regardless of reduced enrollment for this year. Top colleges do occasionally change from need blind to need aware (Wesleyan for example). Amherst has 3X the EPS as Colby and 4X as Wes. They are extremely unlikely to change from need blind in the next admissions cycle and to hope or count on that is foolish. |
| you can have need blind schools ranked below Colby, you can even have need blind schools that are second or third tier - it is possible |
Need blind and meet full need schools 2nd and 3rd tier? Would love a list, or even examples... thanks. |
None. But on dcum “3rd tier” means “top 30 instead of top 5.” By that definition, my kid’s is about 4th/5th tier. And they are very pleased! |
This +1. From the wiki on need blind institutions: U.S. institutions that are need-blind and meet full demonstrated need for both U.S. and international students There are currently only seven U.S. higher education institutions that are need-blind and meet full demonstrated need for all applicants, including international students.[2] These are: Amherst College[3] Curtis Institute of Music Harvard University Massachusetts Institute of Technology[4] Minerva Schools at KGI Princeton University[5] Yale University[6] U.S. institutions that are need-blind for U.S. applicants and meet full demonstrated need A number of U.S. institutions of higher learning both offer need-blind admissions and meet the full demonstrated need for all domestic students, but are need-aware when it comes to international student admissions. However, all admitted students will have their demonstrated need met. The following schools fall into this category: Barnard College (need-aware for transfer students)[7] Boston College Bowdoin College (need-aware for transfer students)[8] Brown University (need-aware for transfer students)[9] California Institute of Technology Claremont McKenna College Columbia University[10] Cornell University[11] Dartmouth College Davidson College Denison University[12] Duke University[13] Georgetown University[14] Grinnell College[15] Hamilton College[16] Harvey Mudd College[17] Johns Hopkins University[18] Middlebury College Northwestern University Olin College[19] Pomona College[20] Rice University[21] Soka University of America[22] Stanford University Swarthmore College University of Chicago University of Michigan (need-blind for in-state students only) University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill[23] University of Notre Dame University of Pennsylvania (need-blind for Mexican and Canadian students as well)[24] University of Richmond (need-aware for transfer students)[25] University of Southern California[26] University of Virginia[27] Vanderbilt University Vassar College[28][29] Wellesley College Williams College Which of those colleges listed will cease being need blind because of one year of reduced enrollment? |