Pot and the CP Library

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:It's hilarious how people complained so much about their right to breathe unpolluted air wrt cigarette smokers and second hand smoke during the 90s and 00s. Those same arguments should apply to potheads. Our right to breathe unpolluted air supercedes your right to toke in public. Smoking weed and second hand weed smoke should be castigated and restricted as much as cigarette smoke and smoking.


Yeah, I wonder if we can pass ordinances like Boulder did? Second hand smoke in public spaces is super obnoxious and unhealthy.


Where do you people live? Sure, I smell some pot in public at times, and sure it's not pleasant, but you guys act like there's a cloud of smoke covering every street. That's just not what I see and smell. Heck, unless you're outside a bar I hardly ever see people smoking cigarettes anymore.



DC reeks like pot smoke EVERYWHERE. Were you even around in the 90s when people bitched about cigarett smoke while walking down the street? Pot smokers should be held to the same standard. 100% of people need air to live, you don't need pot to live. Everyone's right to breathe unpolluted air free from both cigarette smoke and pot smoke supercedes your right to toke in public just like how we have restrictions against cigarettes.


I feel really badly for people in apartment buildings where it comes through the vents. I would check my lease carefully for a non-smoking building, AND that that applies to pot. And being forced to breathe it on the streets is a total violation of everyone's rights.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's hilarious how people complained so much about their right to breathe unpolluted air wrt cigarette smokers and second hand smoke during the 90s and 00s. Those same arguments should apply to potheads. Our right to breathe unpolluted air supercedes your right to toke in public. Smoking weed and second hand weed smoke should be castigated and restricted as much as cigarette smoke and smoking.


Yeah, I wonder if we can pass ordinances like Boulder did? Second hand smoke in public spaces is super obnoxious and unhealthy.


Where do you people live? Sure, I smell some pot in public at times, and sure it's not pleasant, but you guys act like there's a cloud of smoke covering every street. That's just not what I see and smell. Heck, unless you're outside a bar I hardly ever see people smoking cigarettes anymore.


I don't live in Georgetown, but enjoy going there to stroll/browse sometimes. Was very common (I would say "clouds") pre-Covid just walking the sidewalks. Having a cloud outside any public library where people are lining up respectfully outside to retrieve their books is pretty obnoxious!


Please. Do you think people of this element care what you think?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's hilarious how people complained so much about their right to breathe unpolluted air wrt cigarette smokers and second hand smoke during the 90s and 00s. Those same arguments should apply to potheads. Our right to breathe unpolluted air supercedes your right to toke in public. Smoking weed and second hand weed smoke should be castigated and restricted as much as cigarette smoke and smoking.


Yeah, I wonder if we can pass ordinances like Boulder did? Second hand smoke in public spaces is super obnoxious and unhealthy.


Where do you people live? Sure, I smell some pot in public at times, and sure it's not pleasant, but you guys act like there's a cloud of smoke covering every street. That's just not what I see and smell. Heck, unless you're outside a bar I hardly ever see people smoking cigarettes anymore.



DC reeks like pot smoke EVERYWHERE. Were you even around in the 90s when people bitched about cigarett smoke while walking down the street? Pot smokers should be held to the same standard. 100% of people need air to live, you don't need pot to live. Everyone's right to breathe unpolluted air free from both cigarette smoke and pot smoke supercedes your right to toke in public just like how we have restrictions against cigarettes.


I feel really badly for people in apartment buildings where it comes through the vents. I would check my lease carefully for a non-smoking building, AND that that applies to pot. And being forced to breathe it on the streets is a total violation of everyone's rights.


Smoke-free buildings are a joke. Most of them reek of pot. I think we need legal pot smoking lounges where people can toke to their heart's content without bothering other people.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Pot is legal.


And this is why pot is a problem is DC. For as smart as we think we are, we conflate a simple decriminalization change with 'now you can cruise the street with a joint'.


This is why I wont vote for the dumb shrooms initiative. Do i care if you shroom? No. Do i care if your shroom in public, tear off all your clothes, rave and rant and scare kiddies with impunity? Yes. I totally forgot how selfish potheads are when i signed the pot prop, and I stupidly expected DC gov to maintain a where to use line.


+1

Yes, I'll be voting against the shroom initiative solely based on DC's completely dropping the ball on pot. I just don't trust the city to hold any sort of standard after its history with pot decriminalization.


Totally, and after they tear their clothes off and scare the children, they'll be coming to rape our white women! Our street will be clogged with human statues unable to function because they think they're a glass of orange juice and if they move they'll tip over and spill! Our hospitals and morgues will overflow with mushroom junkies who thought they could fly and jumped out a window! Our mental health system will be overwhelmed because doing hallucinogens more than 3 times means you are declared legally insane!

Jesus christ, stop getting your information on drugs from DARE.


I went to UVM in the 90s, ate shrooms and acid probably 30 or 40 times. Used to follow Phish on tour (please forgive me). I've seen countless bad reactions. None were violent to others but, there was tons of screaming and paralyzing anxiety, paranoid outbursts and yes a few disrobings in public. I saw a girl at Red Rocks smash her face wide open as she frantically tried to run away and tripped.

You needn't be Nancy Reagan to think its a bad idea to have public on hallucinogenics.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Pot is legal.


And this is why pot is a problem is DC. For as smart as we think we are, we conflate a simple decriminalization change with 'now you can cruise the street with a joint'.


This is why I wont vote for the dumb shrooms initiative. Do i care if you shroom? No. Do i care if your shroom in public, tear off all your clothes, rave and rant and scare kiddies with impunity? Yes. I totally forgot how selfish potheads are when i signed the pot prop, and I stupidly expected DC gov to maintain a where to use line.


+1

Yes, I'll be voting against the shroom initiative solely based on DC's completely dropping the ball on pot. I just don't trust the city to hold any sort of standard after its history with pot decriminalization.


Totally, and after they tear their clothes off and scare the children, they'll be coming to rape our white women! Our street will be clogged with human statues unable to function because they think they're a glass of orange juice and if they move they'll tip over and spill! Our hospitals and morgues will overflow with mushroom junkies who thought they could fly and jumped out a window! Our mental health system will be overwhelmed because doing hallucinogens more than 3 times means you are declared legally insane!

Jesus christ, stop getting your information on drugs from DARE.


I went to UVM in the 90s, ate shrooms and acid probably 30 or 40 times. Used to follow Phish on tour (please forgive me). I've seen countless bad reactions. None were violent to others but, there was tons of screaming and paralyzing anxiety, paranoid outbursts and yes a few disrobings in public. I saw a girl at Red Rocks smash her face wide open as she frantically tried to run away and tripped.

You needn't be Nancy Reagan to think its a bad idea to have public on hallucinogenics.



Phish is unforgivable, but otherwise + 1,000.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Pot is legal.


And this is why pot is a problem is DC. For as smart as we think we are, we conflate a simple decriminalization change with 'now you can cruise the street with a joint'.


This is why I wont vote for the dumb shrooms initiative. Do i care if you shroom? No. Do i care if your shroom in public, tear off all your clothes, rave and rant and scare kiddies with impunity? Yes. I totally forgot how selfish potheads are when i signed the pot prop, and I stupidly expected DC gov to maintain a where to use line.


+1

Yes, I'll be voting against the shroom initiative solely based on DC's completely dropping the ball on pot. I just don't trust the city to hold any sort of standard after its history with pot decriminalization.


Totally, and after they tear their clothes off and scare the children, they'll be coming to rape our white women! Our street will be clogged with human statues unable to function because they think they're a glass of orange juice and if they move they'll tip over and spill! Our hospitals and morgues will overflow with mushroom junkies who thought they could fly and jumped out a window! Our mental health system will be overwhelmed because doing hallucinogens more than 3 times means you are declared legally insane!

Jesus christ, stop getting your information on drugs from DARE.


I went to UVM in the 90s, ate shrooms and acid probably 30 or 40 times. Used to follow Phish on tour (please forgive me). I've seen countless bad reactions. None were violent to others but, there was tons of screaming and paralyzing anxiety, paranoid outbursts and yes a few disrobings in public. I saw a girl at Red Rocks smash her face wide open as she frantically tried to run away and tripped.

You needn't be Nancy Reagan to think its a bad idea to have public on hallucinogenics.



So you literally put yourself in situations surrounded by the most highly concentrated population of hallucinogenic drug users for years, saw literally no violence, and the worst you can point to is a few naked people and one person who tripped and fell?

Thank you for proving my point that it's a non-issue. If you think a few people seeing a naked person (which is already legal in DC by the way) and a handful cuts and bruises are a reason to continue locking people up and denying people access to natural medication then you're a moron and I'm ashamed to share an alma mater with you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Pot is legal.


And this is why pot is a problem is DC. For as smart as we think we are, we conflate a simple decriminalization change with 'now you can cruise the street with a joint'.


This is why I wont vote for the dumb shrooms initiative. Do i care if you shroom? No. Do i care if your shroom in public, tear off all your clothes, rave and rant and scare kiddies with impunity? Yes. I totally forgot how selfish potheads are when i signed the pot prop, and I stupidly expected DC gov to maintain a where to use line.


+1

Yes, I'll be voting against the shroom initiative solely based on DC's completely dropping the ball on pot. I just don't trust the city to hold any sort of standard after its history with pot decriminalization.


Totally, and after they tear their clothes off and scare the children, they'll be coming to rape our white women! Our street will be clogged with human statues unable to function because they think they're a glass of orange juice and if they move they'll tip over and spill! Our hospitals and morgues will overflow with mushroom junkies who thought they could fly and jumped out a window! Our mental health system will be overwhelmed because doing hallucinogens more than 3 times means you are declared legally insane!

Jesus christ, stop getting your information on drugs from DARE.


I went to UVM in the 90s, ate shrooms and acid probably 30 or 40 times. Used to follow Phish on tour (please forgive me). I've seen countless bad reactions. None were violent to others but, there was tons of screaming and paralyzing anxiety, paranoid outbursts and yes a few disrobings in public. I saw a girl at Red Rocks smash her face wide open as she frantically tried to run away and tripped.

You needn't be Nancy Reagan to think its a bad idea to have public on hallucinogenics.



So you literally put yourself in situations surrounded by the most highly concentrated population of hallucinogenic drug users for years, saw literally no violence, and the worst you can point to is a few naked people and one person who tripped and fell?

Thank you for proving my point that it's a non-issue. If you think a few people seeing a naked person (which is already legal in DC by the way) and a handful cuts and bruises are a reason to continue locking people up and denying people access to natural medication then you're a moron and I'm ashamed to share an alma mater with you.


That's not what I communicated. I communicated that it's a bad idea to have hundreds or thousands of people on a daily basis freaking out having panic attacks all over the city. The absence of violence doesn't mean its OK anymore than the absence of violence involved with shoplifting means that's OK. Shoplifting is bad even if no one is physically hurt. Shrooms for the general populace is bad even if only 1% react violently.

I don't want to be at the library with my daughter while some lightweight screams repeatedly "GET IT AWAY FROM ME ITS SQUIRMMMMMIIIINNNNNNNG!!!!!"

I don't want to be at the grocery store with my daughter watching some guy try to swim through the cookie aisle. I don't want to be stuck in a Metro car with some guy ranting about how the carpet is breathing.

Anonymous
Lol. I agree with the other PP who said if that's the worst you could point out after many phish concerts it does sort of prove the point shrooms/acid are not that bad.
There are so many worse things to see in DC. A man raping/attacking a woman in an alley, 2 bums stabbing each other, men jerking off on public transportation. And those are just a few of the things I witnessed in DC as a kid.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Lol. I agree with the other PP who said if that's the worst you could point out after many phish concerts it does sort of prove the point shrooms/acid are not that bad.
There are so many worse things to see in DC. A man raping/attacking a woman in an alley, 2 bums stabbing each other, men jerking off on public transportation. And those are just a few of the things I witnessed in DC as a kid.


You're right. Murdering people is worse than raping people so we should legalize rape.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lol. I agree with the other PP who said if that's the worst you could point out after many phish concerts it does sort of prove the point shrooms/acid are not that bad.
There are so many worse things to see in DC. A man raping/attacking a woman in an alley, 2 bums stabbing each other, men jerking off on public transportation. And those are just a few of the things I witnessed in DC as a kid.


You're right. Murdering people is worse than raping people so we should legalize rape.


+1 !!!

I swear, I'll never cease to be amazed by the stupidity I observe on this website.

To the first PP, what about if we just don't allow ANY of those insane things and actually live in a nice society? Did that thought ever occur to you?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lol. I agree with the other PP who said if that's the worst you could point out after many phish concerts it does sort of prove the point shrooms/acid are not that bad.
There are so many worse things to see in DC. A man raping/attacking a woman in an alley, 2 bums stabbing each other, men jerking off on public transportation. And those are just a few of the things I witnessed in DC as a kid.


You're right. Murdering people is worse than raping people so we should legalize rape.


+1 !!!

I swear, I'll never cease to be amazed by the stupidity I observe on this website.

To the first PP, what about if we just don't allow ANY of those insane things and actually live in a nice society? Did that thought ever occur to you?


+1

WHAT CAN'T I POOP ON THE METRO?!!! IT'S LITERALLY A NATURAL PROCESS AND IT'S NONVIOLENT!!!

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:As a librarian, I deal with enough inside the facility. I am not going to police anyone's activities outside. It is what it is.


You dont have to police the activities but the librarian who said smoking pot outside on public property is legal is actually incorrect. And since patrons now must queue outside in the haze its obnoxious. The Mayor and Council need to decide if DC police should be supported in enforcing laws, or they should change those laws.


Our MoCo public library banned the Girl Scouts from selling cookies in the town plaza outside its doors, so yeah, I would think that they can express an opinion about the sidewalk in front of the library.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I'm unclear why police shouldn't be called. It's hard for them to police this randomly because they have to see people 'in the act', but if they are congregating in a specific place on a routine basis and visibly smoking weed they can certainly ask folks to snuff out their joints, write tickets. if we want people to smoke weed everywhere, we need to change the laws to reflect that and make it legal. What would you do if instead of the public library this were outside the gates to an elementary school? How are they different?


Police should not be called because they don't have the resources to respond. The police chief said he didn't have enough police to break up the block party where the mass shooting was a couple weeks back. Hundreds of people. That is the reason.

But these responses truly confound me. Is the smoke that offensive to everybody??? It's ouside air!I think we're all a little spoiled since cigarette smoking has been cracked down on in the last decade, but it's much less offensive than cigarette smoke.


Says who? You must be a pot smoker.
Anonymous
Let's recap.
Progressive Agenda Item 1: Legalize Pot - check, but you don't like real-life outcome.
Progressive Agenda Item 2: Defund police: pending, how do you think real-life outcome of this is going to go? DC residents are asking for police to enforce pot-smoking laws, do you make the connection that defunding same police will result in even more pot smoking in front of libraries, etc.?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a librarian, I deal with enough inside the facility. I am not going to police anyone's activities outside. It is what it is.


You dont have to police the activities but the librarian who said smoking pot outside on public property is legal is actually incorrect. And since patrons now must queue outside in the haze its obnoxious. The Mayor and Council need to decide if DC police should be supported in enforcing laws, or they should change those laws.


Our MoCo public library banned the Girl Scouts from selling cookies in the town plaza outside its doors, so yeah, I would think that they can express an opinion about the sidewalk in front of the library.


Sugar is bad for you.
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