Pot and the CP Library

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The police need to be called. The librarians are probably doing their best getting people to try to behave in the library. Call your representative. Write your representative.

In many other places I have lived they have a perimeter, and people have to smoke whatever outside that perimeter.

Good luck with that. MPD won't respond to a pot complaint in my experience. I've tried. I see people smoking (pot and cigs) at the bus stops in Chinatown right in front of the police all the time; it's illegal to smoke at a bus stop but the law is not enforced.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The police need to be called. The librarians are probably doing their best getting people to try to behave in the library. Call your representative. Write your representative.

In many other places I have lived they have a perimeter, and people have to smoke whatever outside that perimeter.

Good luck with that. MPD won't respond to a pot complaint in my experience. I've tried. I see people smoking (pot and cigs) at the bus stops in Chinatown right in front of the police all the time; it's illegal to smoke at a bus stop but the law is not enforced.

Is there any group working to repeal the law? Seems like it was a fail.

[Anonymous]

Can you imagine the 'Karen' complaints if you were actually to call a police officer on a person smoking a joint in front of the library? That would be hugely entertaining.

That would result in a 50 page DCUM thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can you imagine the 'Karen' complaints if you were actually to call a police officer on a person smoking a joint in front of the library? That would be hugely entertaining.

That would result in a 50 page DCUM thread.

Well exactly! That doesnt mean its legal or considerate tho.

[Anonymous]

We have all the problems of California without the weather

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am simply sad that this is even an issue. Why can't pot smokers smoke their pot at home?

Why would in front of kids at the public library make sense simply on a reasonable activity scale.

Because lot makes you stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We have all the problems of California without the weather

Yes. The problem is that we try and create national policy here at the local level. We love being the first. My California friend told me the other day that DC spends more money per citizen than any state and I really thought they we making that up. I realize that it is a twisting of statistics because our population. Is so small but we crush this country in per capita spending. Yet we feel we need the right to smoke pot on the library benches in front of kids.

[Anonymous]

Move.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Move.

Its funny. I quite like the efforts of people to keep our city livable for everyone. I don't always put in the same effort, but if someone is focused on sidewalks or old growth trees or public pot violations my first instinct is not to tell them "move".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Move.

Its funny. I quite like the efforts of people to keep our city livable for everyone. I don't always put in the same effort, but if someone is focused on sidewalks or old growth trees or public pot violations my first instinct is not to tell them "move".

You’re right.


Don’t run by the library anymore.
Problem solved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Move.

Its funny. I quite like the efforts of people to keep our city livable for everyone. I don't always put in the same effort, but if someone is focused on sidewalks or old growth trees or public pot violations my first instinct is not to tell them "move".

You’re right.


Don’t run by the library anymore.
Problem solved.

So stop using the free and public library that I contribute to with my taxes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Move.

Its funny. I quite like the efforts of people to keep our city livable for everyone. I don't always put in the same effort, but if someone is focused on sidewalks or old growth trees or public pot violations my first instinct is not to tell them "move".

You’re right.


Don’t run by the library anymore.
Problem solved.

So stop using the free and public library that I contribute to with my taxes?

Be inclusive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Pot is legal.

And this is why pot is a problem is DC. For as smart as we think we are, we conflate a simple decriminalization change with 'now you can cruise the street with a joint'.

This is why I wont vote for the dumb shrooms initiative. Do i care if you shroom? No. Do i care if your shroom in public, tear off all your clothes, rave and rant and scare kiddies with impunity? Yes. I totally forgot how selfish potheads are when i signed the pot prop, and I stupidly expected DC gov to maintain a where to use line.

+1

Yes, I'll be voting against the shroom initiative solely based on DC's completely dropping the ball on pot. I just don't trust the city to hold any sort of standard after its history with pot decriminalization.

Totally, and after they tear their clothes off and scare the children, they'll be coming to rape our white women! Our street will be clogged with human statues unable to function because they think they're a glass of orange juice and if they move they'll tip over and spill! Our hospitals and morgues will overflow with mushroom junkies who thought they could fly and jumped out a window! Our mental health system will be overwhelmed because doing hallucinogens more than 3 times means you are declared legally insane!

Jesus christ, stop getting your information on drugs from DARE.

DARE dealt in facts and reality.

You deal in histrionics and hyperbole.

NP
Not so much. It's still ongoing, but you don't hear about it much, because the research showed it either didn't help, or made things worse.

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While the program became ubiquitous in the country, it has been shown to have little lasting effect on actually reducing drug use.

A 1994 study of students in Illinois found those who had gone through the program were no less likely to use drugs, alcohol or cigarettes than students who had not participated in DARE, according to the National Institute of Justice.
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Another study published in 1996 found students in Kentucky who went through the DARE program were actually more likely to use cigarettes than those who did not go through DARE and were no less likely to use illicit drugs, according to the National Institute of Justice.

“Some of the research has shown (DARE) increases people’s curiosity, and other resources basically question the cost effectiveness of using expensive resources like police officers to do something that doesn’t really have an impact,” said Faye Taxman, professor of criminology at George Mason University. “It’s just about do you have a difference in the kids, but it’s about how we allocate our resources and the benefits that can come from that.”
https://cumberlink.com/news/local/closer_look/evidence-based-justice-dare-proves-ineffective/article_b85d88bf-ccfd-5c9a-b958-2da91dbc8abe.html

It made for good optics for people who wanted to feel good about it. The facts and reality are that it did not change rates of drug use, unless it was in the wrong direction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm unclear why police shouldn't be called. It's hard for them to police this randomly because they have to see people 'in the act', but if they are congregating in a specific place on a routine basis and visibly smoking weed they can certainly ask folks to snuff out their joints, write tickets. if we want people to smoke weed everywhere, we need to change the laws to reflect that and make it legal. What would you do if instead of the public library this were outside the gates to an elementary school? How are they different?

Police should not be called because they don't have the resources to respond. The police chief said he didn't have enough police to break up the block party where the mass shooting was a couple weeks back. Hundreds of people. That is the reason.

But these responses truly confound me. Is the smoke that offensive to everybody??? It's ouside air!I think we're all a little spoiled since cigarette smoking has been cracked down on in the last decade, but it's much less offensive than cigarette smoke.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm unclear why police shouldn't be called. It's hard for them to police this randomly because they have to see people 'in the act', but if they are congregating in a specific place on a routine basis and visibly smoking weed they can certainly ask folks to snuff out their joints, write tickets. if we want people to smoke weed everywhere, we need to change the laws to reflect that and make it legal. What would you do if instead of the public library this were outside the gates to an elementary school? How are they different?

Police should not be called because they don't have the resources to respond. The police chief said he didn't have enough police to break up the block party where the mass shooting was a couple weeks back. Hundreds of people. That is the reason.

But these responses truly confound me. Is the smoke that offensive to everybody??? It's ouside air!I think we're all a little spoiled since cigarette smoking has been cracked down on in the last decade, but it's much less offensive than cigarette smoke.

Curiously, DC's laws on cigarette smoking restrict people to 25' from the building. Smokers seem to have adjusted and respect this. Note that it does not cover anything but tobacco. Yes, it's already illegal to light up in public. Still, it seems reason they should try to obey the same restrictions as smokers.

https://code.dccouncil.us/dc/council/code/sections/7-1703.04.htmlA