Are people going to be more likely to redshirt because of COVID?

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Anonymous wrote:We had always planned to send our late May boy to K next year. He is small and a bit immature, but there wasn't a real reason to hold him. But now I am having second thoughts.

It looks like he will lose the last few months of preschool and the K prep that went with that. We are trying to do stuff at home, but it just isn't the same. There is also a decent chance that fall classes will be interrupted, at least to a degree. If things are going to be messed up again in the fall, part of me would rather have him missing out on preschool, rather than K.

Anyone else considering this? Do you think there will be more people on the fence about redshirting who decided to do it?

NP- I am the OP of the June boy thread. This is just so tough for me because if people are holding back their May kids, if my June boy goes on to K as I had planned, he is so screwed. It just doesnt seem fair for these June kids at all. I totally get your predicament because Im in it as well, but I was under the impression that May kids did not get held back, and June was the month that was questionable. OP- are you hearing that many May kids are being held now??

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Anonymous wrote:I would definitely redshirt in your situation OP. I have a child who will start kindergarten in the fall and I would love to redshirt her, but she would be too old. I’m not worried about the missed months of preschool, I just know that this thing is far from over. While the kids may go back to school on time, it will be a very disruptive year. I imagine they will have to go back and forth from in school teaching and online learning. A May born, small boy, I would definitely wait given what the fall will look like.

I agree. The loss of preschool is no big deal, but the potential cluster F of what school will look like next year is a bigger deal.

Another possibility nobody wants to think about is that online learning might happen for more than one year. All the kids are going to be behind what they would normally be working on for their age because of the difficulties of online instruction. This is going to be even worse for the redshirted kids.

I don’t think redshirted kids will be further behind. They might by age, but grade is far more relevant. By that metric, they wouldn’t be at a relative disadvantage and may be a little better off because you can get more out of distance learning as you get old and have a better attention span.

Unless the child in question has special needs, they will be doing work that is grossly inappropriate for their age. The will be bored beyond tears, which could lead to many problems.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We had always planned to send our late May boy to K next year. He is small and a bit immature, but there wasn't a real reason to hold him. But now I am having second thoughts.

It looks like he will lose the last few months of preschool and the K prep that went with that. We are trying to do stuff at home, but it just isn't the same. There is also a decent chance that fall classes will be interrupted, at least to a degree. If things are going to be messed up again in the fall, part of me would rather have him missing out on preschool, rather than K.

Anyone else considering this? Do you think there will be more people on the fence about redshirting who decided to do it?

NP- I am the OP of the June boy thread. This is just so tough for me because if people are holding back their May kids, if my June boy goes on to K as I had planned, he is so screwed. It just doesnt seem fair for these June kids at all. I totally get your predicament because Im in it as well, but I was under the impression that May kids did not get held back, and June was the month that was questionable. OP- are you hearing that many May kids are being held now??

No, May kids are not getting held back. This truly anomalous. It's easy to hear about a lot of cases online because all the people doing it will report all the cases they've heard about in order to justify doing it. Your June boy will be perfectly fine! I am truly thankful I send my late July child on time despite the preschool making the suggestion to do an extra year for no reason other than the summer birthday. They probably just wanted the extra tuition.

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Anonymous wrote:We had always planned to send our late May boy to K next year. He is small and a bit immature, but there wasn't a real reason to hold him. But now I am having second thoughts.

It looks like he will lose the last few months of preschool and the K prep that went with that. We are trying to do stuff at home, but it just isn't the same. There is also a decent chance that fall classes will be interrupted, at least to a degree. If things are going to be messed up again in the fall, part of me would rather have him missing out on preschool, rather than K.

Anyone else considering this? Do you think there will be more people on the fence about redshirting who decided to do it?

NP- I am the OP of the June boy thread. This is just so tough for me because if people are holding back their May kids, if my June boy goes on to K as I had planned, he is so screwed. It just doesnt seem fair for these June kids at all. I totally get your predicament because Im in it as well, but I was under the impression that May kids did not get held back, and June was the month that was questionable. OP- are you hearing that many May kids are being held now??

Why on earth would you send your June boy to Kindergarten next fall? Why start their school experience off in this craziness? Seriously - why would you even consider doing that? I have a December child and I would gladly wait another year, but December is just too old. If I had a child April or younger, there is literally no way I would send them to start school next fall.

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Anonymous wrote:We had always planned to send our late May boy to K next year. He is small and a bit immature, but there wasn't a real reason to hold him. But now I am having second thoughts.

It looks like he will lose the last few months of preschool and the K prep that went with that. We are trying to do stuff at home, but it just isn't the same. There is also a decent chance that fall classes will be interrupted, at least to a degree. If things are going to be messed up again in the fall, part of me would rather have him missing out on preschool, rather than K.

Anyone else considering this? Do you think there will be more people on the fence about redshirting who decided to do it?

NP- I am the OP of the June boy thread. This is just so tough for me because if people are holding back their May kids, if my June boy goes on to K as I had planned, he is so screwed. It just doesnt seem fair for these June kids at all. I totally get your predicament because Im in it as well, but I was under the impression that May kids did not get held back, and June was the month that was questionable. OP- are you hearing that many May kids are being held now??

Why on earth would you send your June boy to Kindergarten next fall? Why start their school experience off in this craziness? Seriously - why would you even consider doing that? I have a December child and I would gladly wait another year, but December is just too old. If I had a child April or younger, there is literally no way I would send them to start school next fall.

Who has said schools wont be operating normally come September? Its a long ways away. Do you intend for kids to just be held back for years and years until the virus doesnt exist anymore? That could be years.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We had always planned to send our late May boy to K next year. He is small and a bit immature, but there wasn't a real reason to hold him. But now I am having second thoughts.

It looks like he will lose the last few months of preschool and the K prep that went with that. We are trying to do stuff at home, but it just isn't the same. There is also a decent chance that fall classes will be interrupted, at least to a degree. If things are going to be messed up again in the fall, part of me would rather have him missing out on preschool, rather than K.

Anyone else considering this? Do you think there will be more people on the fence about redshirting who decided to do it?

NP- I am the OP of the June boy thread. This is just so tough for me because if people are holding back their May kids, if my June boy goes on to K as I had planned, he is so screwed. It just doesnt seem fair for these June kids at all. I totally get your predicament because Im in it as well, but I was under the impression that May kids did not get held back, and June was the month that was questionable. OP- are you hearing that many May kids are being held now??

Don’t you think the parents of the July kids say this about the June kids? It seems convenient to draw the line where it is favorable to you. And depending on where in the month you are talking, there could be only a week between your kid and OP’s.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We had always planned to send our late May boy to K next year. He is small and a bit immature, but there wasn't a real reason to hold him. But now I am having second thoughts.

It looks like he will lose the last few months of preschool and the K prep that went with that. We are trying to do stuff at home, but it just isn't the same. There is also a decent chance that fall classes will be interrupted, at least to a degree. If things are going to be messed up again in the fall, part of me would rather have him missing out on preschool, rather than K.

Anyone else considering this? Do you think there will be more people on the fence about redshirting who decided to do it?

NP- I am the OP of the June boy thread. This is just so tough for me because if people are holding back their May kids, if my June boy goes on to K as I had planned, he is so screwed. It just doesnt seem fair for these June kids at all. I totally get your predicament because Im in it as well, but I was under the impression that May kids did not get held back, and June was the month that was questionable. OP- are you hearing that many May kids are being held now??

Don’t you think the parents of the July kids say this about the June kids? It seems convenient to draw the line where it is favorable to you. And depending on where in the month you are talking, there could be only a week between your kid and OP’s.

I have been planning on sending my June DS all along. But talk of June kids from last year being held back and then being in the same grade as my DS has made me question it and feel hesitant. Where I live, all July-September kids are held back. So, no I dont think the July parents care because they are automatically holding back. I never thought June was a hold back month until I started hearing that people were both doing it and considering it. But Ive never heard of a May kid being held back.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We had always planned to send our late May boy to K next year. He is small and a bit immature, but there wasn't a real reason to hold him. But now I am having second thoughts.

It looks like he will lose the last few months of preschool and the K prep that went with that. We are trying to do stuff at home, but it just isn't the same. There is also a decent chance that fall classes will be interrupted, at least to a degree. If things are going to be messed up again in the fall, part of me would rather have him missing out on preschool, rather than K.

Anyone else considering this? Do you think there will be more people on the fence about redshirting who decided to do it?

NP- I am the OP of the June boy thread. This is just so tough for me because if people are holding back their May kids, if my June boy goes on to K as I had planned, he is so screwed. It just doesnt seem fair for these June kids at all. I totally get your predicament because Im in it as well, but I was under the impression that May kids did not get held back, and June was the month that was questionable. OP- are you hearing that many May kids are being held now??

Don’t you think the parents of the July kids say this about the June kids? It seems convenient to draw the line where it is favorable to you. And depending on where in the month you are talking, there could be only a week between your kid and OP’s.

PP here, my ds is end of June

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In our nova school, kindergartners range from just turned-5 to those who turn 7 in September or October. No one really cares.

Are the 7 year olds significantly develops mentally delayed? Because that’s ridiculous. People care, they just don’t say it to the crazy parents directly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We had always planned to send our late May boy to K next year. He is small and a bit immature, but there wasn't a real reason to hold him. But now I am having second thoughts.

It looks like he will lose the last few months of preschool and the K prep that went with that. We are trying to do stuff at home, but it just isn't the same. There is also a decent chance that fall classes will be interrupted, at least to a degree. If things are going to be messed up again in the fall, part of me would rather have him missing out on preschool, rather than K.

Anyone else considering this? Do you think there will be more people on the fence about redshirting who decided to do it?

NP- I am the OP of the June boy thread. This is just so tough for me because if people are holding back their May kids, if my June boy goes on to K as I had planned, he is so screwed. It just doesnt seem fair for these June kids at all. I totally get your predicament because Im in it as well, but I was under the impression that May kids did not get held back, and June was the month that was questionable. OP- are you hearing that many May kids are being held now??

Don’t you think the parents of the July kids say this about the June kids? It seems convenient to draw the line where it is favorable to you. And depending on where in the month you are talking, there could be only a week between your kid and OP’s.

PP here, my ds is end of June

Ok, so it’s a month from OP’s late May. But it still seems like July parents would say June is too much to redshirt, august would say July, etc.

[Anonymous]

Wow, not sure where some PPs live because here we have a lot of July and August kids NOT held back.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We had always planned to send our late May boy to K next year. He is small and a bit immature, but there wasn't a real reason to hold him. But now I am having second thoughts.

It looks like he will lose the last few months of preschool and the K prep that went with that. We are trying to do stuff at home, but it just isn't the same. There is also a decent chance that fall classes will be interrupted, at least to a degree. If things are going to be messed up again in the fall, part of me would rather have him missing out on preschool, rather than K.

Anyone else considering this? Do you think there will be more people on the fence about redshirting who decided to do it?

NP- I am the OP of the June boy thread. This is just so tough for me because if people are holding back their May kids, if my June boy goes on to K as I had planned, he is so screwed. It just doesnt seem fair for these June kids at all. I totally get your predicament because Im in it as well, but I was under the impression that May kids did not get held back, and June was the month that was questionable. OP- are you hearing that many May kids are being held now??

Don’t you think the parents of the July kids say this about the June kids? It seems convenient to draw the line where it is favorable to you. And depending on where in the month you are talking, there could be only a week between your kid and OP’s.

PP here, my ds is end of June

Ok, so it’s a month from OP’s late May. But it still seems like July parents would say June is too much to redshirt, august would say July, etc.

Im the pp of the june boy. I dont disagree with you. Only reason Ive been considering is because I dont want my DS being a full year younger+ than so many peers. I most likely will not be holding him back though and will hope for the best that most people just send their June kids and not too many held back their June kids last year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We had always planned to send our late May boy to K next year. He is small and a bit immature, but there wasn't a real reason to hold him. But now I am having second thoughts.

It looks like he will lose the last few months of preschool and the K prep that went with that. We are trying to do stuff at home, but it just isn't the same. There is also a decent chance that fall classes will be interrupted, at least to a degree. If things are going to be messed up again in the fall, part of me would rather have him missing out on preschool, rather than K.

Anyone else considering this? Do you think there will be more people on the fence about redshirting who decided to do it?

NP- I am the OP of the June boy thread. This is just so tough for me because if people are holding back their May kids, if my June boy goes on to K as I had planned, he is so screwed. It just doesnt seem fair for these June kids at all. I totally get your predicament because Im in it as well, but I was under the impression that May kids did not get held back, and June was the month that was questionable. OP- are you hearing that many May kids are being held now??

Don’t you think the parents of the July kids say this about the June kids? It seems convenient to draw the line where it is favorable to you. And depending on where in the month you are talking, there could be only a week between your kid and OP’s.

PP here, my ds is end of June

Ok, so it’s a month from OP’s late May. But it still seems like July parents would say June is too much to redshirt, august would say July, etc.

Im the pp of the june boy. I dont disagree with you. Only reason Ive been considering is because I dont want my DS being a full year younger+ than so many peers. I most likely will not be holding him back though and will hope for the best that most people just send their June kids and not too many held back their June kids last year.

I don’t know where you’re located, but in my limited experience, in VA it’s the August and September kids who are redshirted. I’m originally from the Midwest where a lot of kids with all summer birthdays (June through September) were redshirted, many of them boys for sports reasons, but it’s not nearly that prevalent here. I wouldn’t worry about your June boy having a ton of classmates a year older than him. The oldest kids in a class are usually those born in August and held back. Private schools are different and have a lot more redshirting of Spring birthdays.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow, not sure where some PPs live because here we have a lot of July and August kids NOT held back.

Agree. We are in MD and plenty of summer birthday kids are not held back. Yes there are people who redshirt for vague immaturity reasons but the vast majority of the late summer birthday kids who are redshirted have ADHD or other learning challenges.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would definitely redshirt in your situation OP. I have a child who will start kindergarten in the fall and I would love to redshirt her, but she would be too old. I’m not worried about the missed months of preschool, I just know that this thing is far from over. While the kids may go back to school on time, it will be a very disruptive year. I imagine they will have to go back and forth from in school teaching and online learning. A May born, small boy, I would definitely wait given what the fall will look like.

I agree. The loss of preschool is no big deal, but the potential cluster F of what school will look like next year is a bigger deal.

+2. I wouldn't hesitate to redshirt a June child in these conditions.