I thought VA waiting for the South to rise again was a joke....

Anonymous
Native Virginian and I never heard of it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Make no mistake. The North was/is just as racist as the South. Instead of slavery, the northern states found other ways to suppress blacks and minorities, including segregated housing laws, under-funding education and other social service agencies, and the "strategic" placement of Interstate highways and other expressways.

I grew up in MA. New England also had the ability to use centuries-old town boundaries to enforce segregated communities, creating some of the most lopsided inequality in the country. Check out Lawrence. Check out Mattapan. Check out Hartford.

This notion that the north is somehow morally superior to the south on matters of race is complete and utter BS. There remains much more to the story than slavery.


+1 Yes - fellow New Englander here.

Celebrating the Confederacy is more than celebrating slavery and racism, it’s also celebrating treason.

Lee and Jackson were US traitors.


+1 The difference is that the northern states would be horrified to acknowledge in celebration anything today that remotely is related to segregation or slavery. Rather, they are ashamed of it. They don't embrace it.


The North is still practicing it. Go visit. Fairfield County, CT, is a good place to start.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Make no mistake. The North was/is just as racist as the South. Instead of slavery, the northern states found other ways to suppress blacks and minorities, including segregated housing laws, under-funding education and other social service agencies, and the "strategic" placement of Interstate highways and other expressways.

I grew up in MA. New England also had the ability to use centuries-old town boundaries to enforce segregated communities, creating some of the most lopsided inequality in the country. Check out Lawrence. Check out Mattapan. Check out Hartford.

This notion that the north is somehow morally superior to the south on matters of race is complete and utter BS. There remains much more to the story than slavery.


Celebrating the Confederacy is more than celebrating slavery and racism, it’s also celebrating treason.

Lee and Jackson were US traitors.



Sorry to learn you slept through any study of the Civil War.


You mean I wasn’t subject to southern brainwashing?

The “War of Northern Aggression” was about slavery. And the Confederates chose to commit treason and were ultimately responsible for the deaths of 620,000 Americans.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Make no mistake. The North was/is just as racist as the South. Instead of slavery, the northern states found other ways to suppress blacks and minorities, including segregated housing laws, under-funding education and other social service agencies, and the "strategic" placement of Interstate highways and other expressways.

I grew up in MA. New England also had the ability to use centuries-old town boundaries to enforce segregated communities, creating some of the most lopsided inequality in the country. Check out Lawrence. Check out Mattapan. Check out Hartford.

This notion that the north is somehow morally superior to the south on matters of race is complete and utter BS. There remains much more to the story than slavery.


+1 Yes - fellow New Englander here.

Celebrating the Confederacy is more than celebrating slavery and racism, it’s also celebrating treason.

Lee and Jackson were US traitors.


+1 The difference is that the northern states would be horrified to acknowledge in celebration anything today that remotely is related to segregation or slavery. Rather, they are ashamed of it. They don't embrace it.


The North is still practicing it. Go visit. Fairfield County, CT, is a good place to start.


Horrible racism? Yes.

But not traitors.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Make no mistake. The North was/is just as racist as the South. Instead of slavery, the northern states found other ways to suppress blacks and minorities, including segregated housing laws, under-funding education and other social service agencies, and the "strategic" placement of Interstate highways and other expressways.

I grew up in MA. New England also had the ability to use centuries-old town boundaries to enforce segregated communities, creating some of the most lopsided inequality in the country. Check out Lawrence. Check out Mattapan. Check out Hartford.

This notion that the north is somehow morally superior to the south on matters of race is complete and utter BS. There remains much more to the story than slavery.


Celebrating the Confederacy is more than celebrating slavery and racism, it’s also celebrating treason.

Lee and Jackson were US traitors.



Sorry to learn you slept through any study of the Civil War.


You mean I wasn’t subject to southern brainwashing?

The “War of Northern Aggression” was about slavery. And the Confederates chose to commit treason and were ultimately responsible for the deaths of 620,000 Americans.


Thanks for confirming my earlier suspicion!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Make no mistake. The North was/is just as racist as the South. Instead of slavery, the northern states found other ways to suppress blacks and minorities, including segregated housing laws, under-funding education and other social service agencies, and the "strategic" placement of Interstate highways and other expressways.

I grew up in MA. New England also had the ability to use centuries-old town boundaries to enforce segregated communities, creating some of the most lopsided inequality in the country. Check out Lawrence. Check out Mattapan. Check out Hartford.

This notion that the north is somehow morally superior to the south on matters of race is complete and utter BS. There remains much more to the story than slavery.


Celebrating the Confederacy is more than celebrating slavery and racism, it’s also celebrating treason.

Lee and Jackson were US traitors.



Sorry to learn you slept through any study of the Civil War.


You mean I wasn’t subject to southern brainwashing?

The “War of Northern Aggression” was about slavery. And the Confederates chose to commit treason and were ultimately responsible for the deaths of 620,000 Americans.


Thanks for confirming my earlier suspicion!


Yes, you were brainwashed.


Anonymous
No one was ever prosecuted for treason and the federal government even paid out pensions to Confederate widows.

You can find the reasons why the south seceded in their declarations, many if them citr that the north wasn't following the Constitutions fugitive slave clause, which is true. So slavery related, but more complex than many allege.

Also keep in mind that slave holding states did fight for the union. So again more complex...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:No one was ever prosecuted for treason and the federal government even paid out pensions to Confederate widows.

You can find the reasons why the south seceded in their declarations, many if them citr that the north wasn't following the Constitutions fugitive slave clause, which is true. So slavery related, but more complex than many allege.

Also keep in mind that slave holding states did fight for the union. So again more complex...


Davis WAS indicted on treason.

Almost everyone was given amnesty via few presidential proclamations (1863, 1865, 1868) to support reconstruction.
"a full pardon and amnesty for the offence of treason against the United States"

And Lee was technically never pardoned in his lifetime. He died a traitor without US citizenship.
Anonymous
This thread is hilarious. I had never heard of the holiday until I went to the VA DMV on Friday only to find it closed for Lee-Jackson Day. I thought the sign on the door was some real life trolling but door was actually locked.
Anonymous
Another jealous MD resident
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This thread is hilarious. I had never heard of the holiday until I went to the VA DMV on Friday only to find it closed for Lee-Jackson Day. I thought the sign on the door was some real life trolling but door was actually locked.

You have never heard of it because you haven't lived in VA long if you didn't realize that VA DMV is closed for this auspicious holiday.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Another jealous MD resident

Who would be jealous of celebrating a traitor?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Another jealous MD resident

Who would be jealous of celebrating a traitor?


Lol your are such a loser. Learn some history before spouting off. Stay jealous buttercup!
Anonymous
The moron on his/her “traitor” kick is giving me a good laugh...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Another jealous MD resident

Who would be jealous of celebrating a traitor?


Lol your are such a loser. Learn some history before spouting off. Stay jealous buttercup!


Wow. You sound very educated. AND like someone who loves traitors.

If you were actually able to dispute the “traitor” label then you’d do it. But you know you can’t so you resort to name-calling.
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