Where did your 33/34 ACT, 3.9 UW GPA get in?

[Anonymous]

Getting back to the discussion...similar stats. In at UVA (in state), NYU (last year); Rejected Brown, Tufts

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How is your private school packaging and presenting the kids?

Just found out the 2019 matriculation of my NE private HS:
Out of 120 kids:

19 Harvard
8 Dartmouth
3 UPenn
2 Stanford
1 Columbia
1 Cornell
1 Brown
1 MIT

8 Middlebury
5 Williams
5 Tufts
3 U Chicago
3 Georgetown
3 Duke

Are these kids any smarter than yours? No. Do half the class have hooks? Probably not. The counselors have an impact.

!!!
which school is this? or city?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Looking for kids with similar stats in last couple of years and where they got accepted and rejected.

33/34 ACT
3.9 GPA (private does not weight)
very good ECs
no major national awards, not curing cancer or starting a non profit

interested in where similar kids got in without hooks

thanks

The essay carries tremendous weight and can make a difference between two identical apps, scores, etc. In 2017, DC applied EA to a prestigious union-Ivy university and ED to an Ivy. DC chose the Ivy before knowing the EA decision so to withdraw the application. After regular admissions were concluded, the HS counselor confided that DC was also accepted to the EA university, and the essay was outstanding. The university followed up with the counselor why DC had withdrawn the application.

In all honesty, DC's essay really was very good and read post-decision by a PhD in English friend who loved it. Very creative and imaginative essay drawing on experiences with one of the ECs.

I would suggest your DC put serious effort into the essay. You've already got the scores and GPA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looking for kids with similar stats in last couple of years and where they got accepted and rejected.

33/34 ACT
3.9 GPA (private does not weight)
very good ECs
no major national awards, not curing cancer or starting a non profit

interested in where similar kids got in without hooks

thanks

The essay carries tremendous weight and can make a difference between two identical apps, scores, etc. In 2017, DC applied EA to a prestigious union-Ivy university and ED to an Ivy. DC chose the Ivy before knowing the EA decision so to withdraw the application. After regular admissions were concluded, the HS counselor confided that DC was also accepted to the EA university, and the essay was outstanding. The university followed up with the counselor why DC had withdrawn the application.

In all honesty, DC's essay really was very good and read post-decision by a PhD in English friend who loved it. Very creative and imaginative essay drawing on experiences with one of the ECs.

I would suggest your DC put serious effort into the essay. You've already got the scores and GPA.

*prestigious non-Ivy university*. Sometimes, I just hate autocorrect.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How is your private school packaging and presenting the kids?

Just found out the 2019 matriculation of my NE private HS:
Out of 120 kids:

19 Harvard
8 Dartmouth
3 UPenn
2 Stanford
1 Columbia
1 Cornell
1 Brown
1 MIT

8 Middlebury
5 Williams
5 Tufts
3 U Chicago
3 Georgetown
3 Duke

Are these kids any smarter than yours? No. Do half the class have hooks? Probably not. The counselors have an impact.

!!!
which school is this? or city?

Unicorn Prep, in Rainbowtown.

[Anonymous]

These stats are table stakes for the top schools. So, what you're going to find is that kids that get into the top 10 - 20 schools will be around these (higher AND lower) stats. What separates kids are the other "things." Things can be essays or hooks or just something the admissions group sees in the kid. The top schools want to see a kid passionate about something while that passion and talent to make an impact. There are many, many highly qualified kids. You have to do something that sets you a part from the field, and you need to make sure that comes across in your application. Furthermore, there can be a luck component involved as well.

[Anonymous]

My public school Class of 2019 with identical stats (but no leadership for ECs and no hooks unless full-pay counts) was accepted at Yale, Columbia, Duke, UCLA, WUSTL, Vanderbilt, and UMD; wait-listed at UChicago (applied EA-deferred then WL) and Georgetown; and rejected at Harvard, Penn, and Stanford.

[Anonymous]

Huh. Interesting. Montgomery County?
No hooks, really?
These were all RD, correct? Yale has SCEA (restrictive for ED and EA elsewhere).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My public school Class of 2019 with identical stats (but no leadership for ECs and no hooks unless full-pay counts) was accepted at Yale, Columbia, Duke, UCLA, WUSTL, Vanderbilt, and UMD; wait-listed at UChicago (applied EA-deferred then WL) and Georgetown; and rejected at Harvard, Penn, and Stanford.

Wow, congrats! Where did your DC end up and did you get offered any aid from those acceptances?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How is your private school packaging and presenting the kids?

Just found out the 2019 matriculation of my NE private HS:
Out of 120 kids:

19 Harvard
8 Dartmouth
3 UPenn
2 Stanford
1 Columbia
1 Cornell
1 Brown
1 MIT

8 Middlebury
5 Williams
5 Tufts
3 U Chicago
3 Georgetown
3 Duke

Are these kids any smarter than yours? No. Do half the class have hooks? Probably not. The counselors have an impact.

The hook is the exclusive private school. And yes, they likely had other hooks that you don’t know about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My public school Class of 2019 with identical stats (but no leadership for ECs and no hooks unless full-pay counts) was accepted at Yale, Columbia, Duke, UCLA, WUSTL, Vanderbilt, and UMD; wait-listed at UChicago (applied EA-deferred then WL) and Georgetown; and rejected at Harvard, Penn, and Stanford.

Do you live in North Dakota? Because that didn't happen in the DC area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My public school Class of 2019 with identical stats (but no leadership for ECs and no hooks unless full-pay counts) was accepted at Yale, Columbia, Duke, UCLA, WUSTL, Vanderbilt, and UMD; wait-listed at UChicago (applied EA-deferred then WL) and Georgetown; and rejected at Harvard, Penn, and Stanford.

Do you live in North Dakota? Because that didn't happen in the DC area.

I am assuming URM? Is that a hook?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How is your private school packaging and presenting the kids?

Just found out the 2019 matriculation of my NE private HS:
Out of 120 kids:

19 Harvard
8 Dartmouth
3 UPenn
2 Stanford
1 Columbia
1 Cornell
1 Brown
1 MIT

8 Middlebury
5 Williams
5 Tufts
3 U Chicago
3 Georgetown
3 Duke

Are these kids any smarter than yours? No. Do half the class have hooks? Probably not. The counselors have an impact.

The hook is the exclusive private school. And yes, they likely had other hooks that you don’t know about.

Privilege is blind to itself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My public school Class of 2019 with identical stats (but no leadership for ECs and no hooks unless full-pay counts) was accepted at Yale, Columbia, Duke, UCLA, WUSTL, Vanderbilt, and UMD; wait-listed at UChicago (applied EA-deferred then WL) and Georgetown; and rejected at Harvard, Penn, and Stanford.

Do you live in North Dakota? Because that didn't happen in the DC area.

+1. Or Kansas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My public school Class of 2019 with identical stats (but no leadership for ECs and no hooks unless full-pay counts) was accepted at Yale, Columbia, Duke, UCLA, WUSTL, Vanderbilt, and UMD; wait-listed at UChicago (applied EA-deferred then WL) and Georgetown; and rejected at Harvard, Penn, and Stanford.

Do you live in North Dakota? Because that didn't happen in the DC area.

I am assuming URM? Is that a hook?

+1 if from a large metro area where it's hard to distinguish between all the 4.0s/5.0 kids.