ROTC

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So ROTC will pay full freight at expensive private universities so long as there is an ROTC org on campus?

Chair of the Joint Chief GEN Milley was Princeton ROTC. The Army also sponsors six statutory military colleges - they include VMI and the Citadel. If you graduate one of them as Army ROTC you are guaranteed a commission, immediate branch school, a year of active duty and at your option an additional year, and by law these colleges are immune from having ROTC drawn down. They are as entitled to a commission (and a job in uniform) upon graduation as any Service Academy graduate. BIG caution: at some of them, HAZING.

Is the active duty obligation really only 1 year if you do Army ROTC at these "statutory military colleges"? If so, why? It's a 5 year active duty obligation after a service academy, and I thought it was also 5 years after doing ROTC at a "civilian" university like Princeton - correct? Why would it only be 1 year after VMI or The Citadel, if it's the same scholarship?

You misunderstood.... the one year is a minimum guaranteed (assuming you want active duty). Many ROTC grads want active duty and cannot get it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So ROTC will pay full freight at expensive private universities so long as there is an ROTC org on campus?

Chair of the Joint Chief GEN Milley was Princeton ROTC. The Army also sponsors six statutory military colleges - they include VMI and the Citadel. If you graduate one of them as Army ROTC you are guaranteed a commission, immediate branch school, a year of active duty and at your option an additional year, and by law these colleges are immune from having ROTC drawn down. They are as entitled to a commission (and a job in uniform) upon graduation as any Service Academy graduate. BIG caution: at some of them, HAZING.

Is the active duty obligation really only 1 year if you do Army ROTC at these "statutory military colleges"? If so, why? It's a 5 year active duty obligation after a service academy, and I thought it was also 5 years after doing ROTC at a "civilian" university like Princeton - correct? Why would it only be 1 year after VMI or The Citadel, if it's the same scholarship?

You misunderstood.... the one year is a minimum guaranteed (assuming you want active duty). Many ROTC grads want active duty and cannot get it.

Yes, I thought active duty was a MUST after a full four-year ROTC scholarship? Are you saying a lot of these ROTC scholarship recipients are just doing reserves when they graduate?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So ROTC will pay full freight at expensive private universities so long as there is an ROTC org on campus?

Chair of the Joint Chief GEN Milley was Princeton ROTC. The Army also sponsors six statutory military colleges - they include VMI and the Citadel. If you graduate one of them as Army ROTC you are guaranteed a commission, immediate branch school, a year of active duty and at your option an additional year, and by law these colleges are immune from having ROTC drawn down. They are as entitled to a commission (and a job in uniform) upon graduation as any Service Academy graduate. BIG caution: at some of them, HAZING.

Is the active duty obligation really only 1 year if you do Army ROTC at these "statutory military colleges"? If so, why? It's a 5 year active duty obligation after a service academy, and I thought it was also 5 years after doing ROTC at a "civilian" university like Princeton - correct? Why would it only be 1 year after VMI or The Citadel, if it's the same scholarship?

You misunderstood.... the one year is a minimum guaranteed (assuming you want active duty). Many ROTC grads want active duty and cannot get it.

Yes, I thought active duty was a MUST after a full four-year ROTC scholarship? Are you saying a lot of these ROTC scholarship recipients are just doing reserves when they graduate?

Some are but, to get a reserve-only commission, you owe more time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So ROTC will pay full freight at expensive private universities so long as there is an ROTC org on campus?

Chair of the Joint Chief GEN Milley was Princeton ROTC. The Army also sponsors six statutory military colleges - they include VMI and the Citadel. If you graduate one of them as Army ROTC you are guaranteed a commission, immediate branch school, a year of active duty and at your option an additional year, and by law these colleges are immune from having ROTC drawn down. They are as entitled to a commission (and a job in uniform) upon graduation as any Service Academy graduate. BIG caution: at some of them, HAZING.

Is the active duty obligation really only 1 year if you do Army ROTC at these "statutory military colleges"? If so, why? It's a 5 year active duty obligation after a service academy, and I thought it was also 5 years after doing ROTC at a "civilian" university like Princeton - correct? Why would it only be 1 year after VMI or The Citadel, if it's the same scholarship?

You misunderstood.... the one year is a minimum guaranteed (assuming you want active duty). Many ROTC grads want active duty and cannot get it.

Yes, I thought active duty was a MUST after a full four-year ROTC scholarship? Are you saying a lot of these ROTC scholarship recipients are just doing reserves when they graduate?

Some are but, to get a reserve-only commission, you owe more time.

I suppose there is no way to know what assignment you will get until you are done with college? Everything I've read about the ROTC scholarship says that the recipient owes 5 years of actuve duty as a commissioned officer, the same as the service academy grass...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So ROTC will pay full freight at expensive private universities so long as there is an ROTC org on campus?

Chair of the Joint Chief GEN Milley was Princeton ROTC. The Army also sponsors six statutory military colleges - they include VMI and the Citadel. If you graduate one of them as Army ROTC you are guaranteed a commission, immediate branch school, a year of active duty and at your option an additional year, and by law these colleges are immune from having ROTC drawn down. They are as entitled to a commission (and a job in uniform) upon graduation as any Service Academy graduate. BIG caution: at some of them, HAZING.

Is the active duty obligation really only 1 year if you do Army ROTC at these "statutory military colleges"? If so, why? It's a 5 year active duty obligation after a service academy, and I thought it was also 5 years after doing ROTC at a "civilian" university like Princeton - correct? Why would it only be 1 year after VMI or The Citadel, if it's the same scholarship?

You misunderstood.... the one year is a minimum guaranteed (assuming you want active duty). Many ROTC grads want active duty and cannot get it.

Yes, I thought active duty was a MUST after a full four-year ROTC scholarship? Are you saying a lot of these ROTC scholarship recipients are just doing reserves when they graduate?

Some are but, to get a reserve-only commission, you owe more time.

I suppose there is no way to know what assignment you will get until you are done with college? Everything I've read about the ROTC scholarship says that the recipient owes 5 years of actuve duty as a commissioned officer, the same as the service academy grass...

*grads

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What about Air Force? Are bases generally in desirable locations?

No.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just asked my kid who is a Sophomore. He said 8 hours per week.

The hours go up each year, as you move into more leadership positions. I did ROTC and it was probably 12-15 hours per week by the time you are a Senior. Probably also depends on what school you go to.

Both Army ROTC.

What about summers? Any ROTC obligations then?

Yes. Usually 6 wk training camps for 2 summers. Paid, of course.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So ROTC will pay full freight at expensive private universities so long as there is an ROTC org on campus?

Chair of the Joint Chief GEN Milley was Princeton ROTC. The Army also sponsors six statutory military colleges - they include VMI and the Citadel. If you graduate one of them as Army ROTC you are guaranteed a commission, immediate branch school, a year of active duty and at your option an additional year, and by law these colleges are immune from having ROTC drawn down. They are as entitled to a commission (and a job in uniform) upon graduation as any Service Academy graduate. BIG caution: at some of them, HAZING.

Is the active duty obligation really only 1 year if you do Army ROTC at these "statutory military colleges"? If so, why? It's a 5 year active duty obligation after a service academy, and I thought it was also 5 years after doing ROTC at a "civilian" university like Princeton - correct? Why would it only be 1 year after VMI or The Citadel, if it's the same scholarship?

You misunderstood.... the one year is a minimum guaranteed (assuming you want active duty). Many ROTC grads want active duty and cannot get it.

Yes, I thought active duty was a MUST after a full four-year ROTC scholarship? Are you saying a lot of these ROTC scholarship recipients are just doing reserves when they graduate?

Some are but, to get a reserve-only commission, you owe more time.

I suppose there is no way to know what assignment you will get until you are done with college? Everything I've read about the ROTC scholarship says that the recipient owes 5 years of actuve duty as a commissioned officer, the same as the service academy grass...

You owe 4 years active or 8 years in the reserves. You won’t know your branch (specialty) or duty assignment until right before graduation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What about Air Force? Are bases generally in desirable locations?

Do you consider Minot, North Dakota to be desirable? How about Shreveport, Louisiana?
Even cool places like South Korea and Germany can be difficult when you figure you are far from family and can’t always get leave (or afford plane tickets) when you want—like holidays.

[Anonymous]

There are several great Air Force locations. Some of my favorites are near:

Destin, FL
Cocoa Beach, FL
Pearl Harbor, HI
San Antonio, TX
Seattle, WA
Las Vegas, NV
Las Angeles, CA
Germany
Iceland
England

I’ve spent time at each one (except for Iceland) and have also been to Shreveport, LA and have friends stationed in Minot and absolutely love it. Each duty station is a new adventure and it’s all what you make of it. An adventurous, positive person will enjoy their time no matter where they get to go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are several great Air Force locations. Some of my favorites are near:

Destin, FL
Cocoa Beach, FL
Pearl Harbor, HI
San Antonio, TX
Seattle, WA
Las Vegas, NV
Las Angeles, CA
Germany
Iceland
England

I’ve spent time at each one (except for Iceland) and have also been to Shreveport, LA and have friends stationed in Minot and absolutely love it. Each duty station is a new adventure and it’s all what you make of it. An adventurous, positive person will enjoy their time no matter where they get to go.

Very cool. But how often do they move you guys around?

[Anonymous]

Army moves every two years, generally.

For OP - I second the suggestion that you go to serviceacademyforum.com for lots of detailed information about ROTC and academies.

You will find a much more knowledgeable, and frankly, more service-friendly, group of forum participants than DCUM. I had one ROTC at W&M and one West Point - the forums were invaluable during the process.

Based on my experience, ROTC can be a factor in admissions, including elite schools if your stats are in line. Colleges see the fully funded government scholarship and need to fill slots in their ROTC program - I know two friends kids who got into Princeton through ROTC without the typical hook needed for an Ivy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are several great Air Force locations. Some of my favorites are near:

Destin, FL
Cocoa Beach, FL
Pearl Harbor, HI
San Antonio, TX
Seattle, WA
Las Vegas, NV
Las Angeles, CA
Germany
Iceland
England

I’ve spent time at each one (except for Iceland) and have also been to Shreveport, LA and have friends stationed in Minot and absolutely love it. Each duty station is a new adventure and it’s all what you make of it. An adventurous, positive person will enjoy their time no matter where they get to go.

Very cool. But how often do they move you guys around?

Once you’re done with your initial training, it’s pretty much every 3 years. For instance a pilot may go to Enid, OK right after graduation for flight school for less than a year, then go to airplane specific training for a year and then will start on a regular rotation of approximately 3 years per duty station. We’ve been places longer/shorter, but that’s about the average. This is for officers, enlisted tend to be on a different schedule depending on their specialty.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are several great Air Force locations. Some of my favorites are near:

Destin, FL
Cocoa Beach, FL
Pearl Harbor, HI
San Antonio, TX
Seattle, WA
Las Vegas, NV
Las Angeles, CA
Germany
Iceland
England

I’ve spent time at each one (except for Iceland) and have also been to Shreveport, LA and have friends stationed in Minot and absolutely love it. Each duty station is a new adventure and it’s all what you make of it. An adventurous, positive person will enjoy their time no matter where they get to go.

Of course, but a lot of people aren't adventurous, positive people. I've also seen people go into the military thinking they will have a lot more say in where they are stationed than they do.
And, more relevant to this forum--PARENTS of military members wanting to dictate where their adult kid is stationed or getting upset when they aren't stationed in an ideal location.

[Anonymous]

Why not Minot?