ROTC

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Anonymous wrote:So ROTC will pay full freight at expensive private universities so long as there is an ROTC org on campus?

Chair of the Joint Chief GEN Milley was Princeton ROTC. The Army also sponsors six statutory military colleges - they include VMI and the Citadel. If you graduate one of them as Army ROTC you are guaranteed a commission, immediate branch school, a year of active duty and at your option an additional year, and by law these colleges are immune from having ROTC drawn down. They are as entitled to a commission (and a job in uniform) upon graduation as any Service Academy graduate. BIG caution: at some of them, HAZING.

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Do ROTC kids have to wear uniforms to class?

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Anonymous wrote:Do ROTC kids have to wear uniforms to class?

To their ROTC classes ? yes. To their regular school classes ? no (although it may be inconvenient to change between classes).

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For schools not in the south, isn't there still a baby-killer stigma to anyone in ROTC?

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Anonymous wrote:don't forget the military academies if your child has the grades and you have a congressional rep. They're free, then time served. I know a lot of ROTC families who tried that route first but then had to fall back on ROTC at a private school because DS didn't get into Annapolis, West Point, etc.

I know a Navy family that tried hard for their son for Annapolis. There's a summer program there for interested students. The son did not get into Annapolis (grades) but did do ROTC at USC (Calif.) and has a fabulous career now.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have experience with ROTC and how it dovetails with admission to highly selective schools? We can afford to pay for school but just wondering if ROTC would be good to explore for the leadership experiences, no debt and five years of guaranteed job out of school.

You are aware that this “guaranteed job” will require your kid to go wherever they tell him, including combat zones? Your kid won’t always be able to come “home” for thanksgiving and other special holidays. Your kid could get assigned to a base in Germany or Korea or Guam; your grandchild could be born and raised there, making it hard for you to visit often. It’s a lot more than just a “guaranteed job.”

You think most just out of college kids are going to have leave to travel home for Thanksgiving and “special holidays”? I wouldn’t want my child to produce grandchildren right out of college, either.

We live in an area with lots of military officers and while yes, there are some tough deployments, we also have friends who’ve moved from here to England, Belgium, Japan, Norway, DC (that’s the worst) and Germany. Not exactly hardship posts and they and their extended families get to see each other often. Also lots of retired military parents at little kids’ school in their 40s and 50s collecting military pension and working for contractors. It’s not a bad life. They usually get a year here or there to do (paid for) masters degrees while active duty too.

OP, my childhood friend’s husband did ROTC as an engineering student, became a pilot, and is now a base commander. FIL was orphaned as a kid and did ROTC at UVA to pay for college. Studied electrical engineering and was stationed in Florida testing missles during Vietnam.

Parents of "little kids" while in their 50s is definitely not common among military active duty/retirees.

Actually I know a ton...pretty much anyone married during Iraq and Afghanistan has two families. One then and one now. Few marriages survived those rough deployments.

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Anonymous wrote:For schools not in the south, isn't there still a baby-killer stigma to anyone in ROTC?

NAH. I was in ROTC in Boston. Aside from Harvard being pricks about allowing them on campus. No one thought that.

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Anonymous wrote:Just asked my kid who is a Sophomore. He said 8 hours per week.

The hours go up each year, as you move into more leadership positions. I did ROTC and it was probably 12-15 hours per week by the time you are a Senior. Probably also depends on what school you go to.

Both Army ROTC.

What about summers? Any ROTC obligations then?

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Anonymous wrote:Just asked my kid who is a Sophomore. He said 8 hours per week.

The hours go up each year, as you move into more leadership positions. I did ROTC and it was probably 12-15 hours per week by the time you are a Senior. Probably also depends on what school you go to.

Both Army ROTC.

What about summers? Any ROTC obligations then?

Summer between Junior year is all ROTC training (minimum 7 weeks). Some kids will do specialized training for 2-4 weeks during the summer after sophomore year (e.g. airborne school) if they want to.

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Anonymous wrote:Just asked my kid who is a Sophomore. He said 8 hours per week.

The hours go up each year, as you move into more leadership positions. I did ROTC and it was probably 12-15 hours per week by the time you are a Senior. Probably also depends on what school you go to.

Both Army ROTC.

What about summers? Any ROTC obligations then?

Summer between Junior year is all ROTC training (minimum 7 weeks). Some kids will do specialized training for 2-4 weeks during the summer after sophomore year (e.g. airborne school) if they want to.

Summer between Junior and Senior year....

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If you do ROTC and get college paid, do you still have a GI Bill benefit you can use later in life?

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Anonymous wrote:If you do ROTC and get college paid, do you still have a GI Bill benefit you can use later in life?

If you fulfill the active duty service obligation required to receive the GI Bill.

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Anonymous wrote:So ROTC will pay full freight at expensive private universities so long as there is an ROTC org on campus?

Yep, i had full tuition paid at Princeton via a 4 year year Army ROTC Scholarship.

I should have noted that R&B is not covered.

Many colleges will actually chip in R&B on top of the ROTC scholarship. It basically means a free ride plus. The plus being you start getting paid each month. It really is an amazing opportunity.

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Anonymous wrote:If you do ROTC and get college paid, do you still have a GI Bill benefit you can use later in life?

If you fulfill the active duty service obligation required to receive the GI Bill.

Which is what?

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Anonymous wrote:So ROTC will pay full freight at expensive private universities so long as there is an ROTC org on campus?

Chair of the Joint Chief GEN Milley was Princeton ROTC. The Army also sponsors six statutory military colleges - they include VMI and the Citadel. If you graduate one of them as Army ROTC you are guaranteed a commission, immediate branch school, a year of active duty and at your option an additional year, and by law these colleges are immune from having ROTC drawn down. They are as entitled to a commission (and a job in uniform) upon graduation as any Service Academy graduate. BIG caution: at some of them, HAZING.

Is the active duty obligation really only 1 year if you do Army ROTC at these "statutory military colleges"? If so, why? It's a 5 year active duty obligation after a service academy, and I thought it was also 5 years after doing ROTC at a "civilian" university like Princeton - correct? Why would it only be 1 year after VMI or The Citadel, if it's the same scholarship?