basic question about CES

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Where do they get students socioeconomic status from? I don’t recall providing that info at Kindergarten orientation.


It's not really socioeconomic status. It's just the percentage of students applying for free and reduced price meals (FARMS).


The percentage of low-income students is directly related to a schools test score average and impacts the quality of education at least that's what a ot of parents on this board seem to think.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Where do they get students socioeconomic status from? I don’t recall providing that info at Kindergarten orientation.


It's not really socioeconomic status. It's just the percentage of students applying for free and reduced price meals (FARMS).


The percentage of low-income students is directly related to a schools test score average and impacts the quality of education at least that's what a ot of parents on this board seem to think.



Not the quality of education but quality of peer group. They say more money mo problems but that is BS. Poor people have shitty problems and a society that shits on them. Who wants to be near that?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Where do they get students socioeconomic status from? I don’t recall providing that info at Kindergarten orientation.


It's not really socioeconomic status. It's just the percentage of students applying for free and reduced price meals (FARMS).


The percentage of low-income students is directly related to a schools test score average and impacts the quality of education at least that's what a ot of parents on this board seem to think.



Not the quality of education but quality of peer group. They say more money mo problems but that is BS. Poor people have shitty problems and a society that shits on them. Who wants to be near that?


I'd rather be near "that" than near you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Where do they get students socioeconomic status from? I don’t recall providing that info at Kindergarten orientation.


It's not really socioeconomic status. It's just the percentage of students applying for free and reduced price meals (FARMS).


The percentage of low-income students is directly related to a schools test score average and impacts the quality of education at least that's what a ot of parents on this board seem to think.



Not the quality of education but quality of peer group. They say more money mo problems but that is BS. Poor people have shitty problems and a society that shits on them. Who wants to be near that?


I don't think that's exactly true, but at the very least peer group impacts the quality of education. Many parents pay hundreds of thousands of dollars more to live in these school boundaries because they believe the schools are vastly better.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My understanding was the latest criteria used a more nuanced approach to uncover higher caliber students than the older method used. The old system gave deference to students whose parents spent hundreds of thousands more to buy property in one of the "good" schools and ended up helping those who needed the least help. The new system focuses on aptitude and ability and puts less emphasis on a family's affluence.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/13/us/education-gifted-students.html?fbclid=IwAR1t9K8SmpMWKU_0PytVO_Sc4hAjeOcCb9dSvj_EiALow0HhC7m5vyAk9tA


Agree - the new criteria seems to favor aptitude over privilege conferred by affluence. When combined with universal screening, it made admissions far more competitive than the old system where there were only a few hundred applicants whose parents were in the know.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Where do they get students socioeconomic status from? I don’t recall providing that info at Kindergarten orientation.


It's not really socioeconomic status. It's just the percentage of students applying for free and reduced price meals (FARMS).


The percentage of low-income students is directly related to a schools test score average and impacts the quality of education at least that's what a ot of parents on this board seem to think.



Not the quality of education but quality of peer group. They say more money mo problems but that is BS. Poor people have shitty problems and a society that shits on them. Who wants to be near that?


I'd rather be near "that" than near you.


But that is the difference right. People with resources go where they want to and people without sink to the bottom of the bowl. It doesn't really matter where you would rather be, you don't have a choice. Rich people can and always will opt out of being around you and your children. You can sour grape it all you wan't but nobody was offering you grapes in the first place.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Where do they get students socioeconomic status from? I don’t recall providing that info at Kindergarten orientation.


It's not really socioeconomic status. It's just the percentage of students applying for free and reduced price meals (FARMS).


The percentage of low-income students is directly related to a schools test score average and impacts the quality of education at least that's what a ot of parents on this board seem to think.



Not the quality of education but quality of peer group. They say more money mo problems but that is BS. Poor people have shitty problems and a society that shits on them. Who wants to be near that?


I'd rather be near "that" than near you.


But that is the difference right. People with resources go where they want to and people without sink to the bottom of the bowl. It doesn't really matter where you would rather be, you don't have a choice. Rich people can and always will opt out of being around you and your children. You can sour grape it all you wan't but nobody was offering you grapes in the first place.


Wow, you are deluded. Many, many people do have a choice, and some choose to live in a SFH in an area zoned for a Focus or Title I school, while others may choose to pay the same $ for a condo in a "W" school zone. Nothing wrong with either choice.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Where do they get students socioeconomic status from? I don’t recall providing that info at Kindergarten orientation.


It's not really socioeconomic status. It's just the percentage of students applying for free and reduced price meals (FARMS).


The percentage of low-income students is directly related to a schools test score average and impacts the quality of education at least that's what a ot of parents on this board seem to think.



Not the quality of education but quality of peer group. They say more money mo problems but that is BS. Poor people have shitty problems and a society that shits on them. Who wants to be near that?


I'd rather be near "that" than near you.


But that is the difference right. People with resources go where they want to and people without sink to the bottom of the bowl. It doesn't really matter where you would rather be, you don't have a choice. Rich people can and always will opt out of being around you and your children. You can sour grape it all you wan't but nobody was offering you grapes in the first place.


Anyone who thinks "rich people" will all choose the same thing "always" is a troll and should be ignored. There's a range of wealth and Warren Buffett sent his kids to public school and blah blah blah. People who have a choice choose different things because they care about and value different things.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Where do they get students socioeconomic status from? I don’t recall providing that info at Kindergarten orientation.


It's not really socioeconomic status. It's just the percentage of students applying for free and reduced price meals (FARMS).


The percentage of low-income students is directly related to a schools test score average and impacts the quality of education at least that's what a ot of parents on this board seem to think.



Not the quality of education but quality of peer group. They say more money mo problems but that is BS. Poor people have shitty problems and a society that shits on them. Who wants to be near that?


I'd rather be near "that" than near you.


But that is the difference right. People with resources go where they want to and people without sink to the bottom of the bowl. It doesn't really matter where you would rather be, you don't have a choice. Rich people can and always will opt out of being around you and your children. You can sour grape it all you wan't but nobody was offering you grapes in the first place.


Anyone who thinks "rich people" will all choose the same thing "always" is a troll and should be ignored. There's a range of wealth and Warren Buffett sent his kids to public school and blah blah blah. People who have a choice choose different things because they care about and value different things.


Rich people do chose different things true, but what is also true is Rich people typically avoid certain thing almost always. Not many millionaires at Kennedy, not many in most of silver spring if we are being honest. There is some wealth concentrating around TP and DTSS but then they fight like crazy CES and more GT, I wonder why that is?
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