Catholics: How do you still justify going to church or being a part of the church?

Anonymous
I read this, I understand you words and your burden and all the comments, but I cannot and will not be not Catholic.
Anonymous
We left. There was simply no way we could continue to financially and otherwise support an organization that abused children and covered it up. Over and over again. We love our Episcopal church!
Anonymous
Episcopal = Catholic lite.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I read this, I understand you words and your burden and all the comments, but I cannot and will not be not Catholic.


That's not what Jesus would do.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Episcopal = Catholic lite.


Not so much anymore. We have tried intentionally to distance ourselves from the Catholic church. No church is perfect because people aren’t perfect. But we have women priests, we welcome everyone, we are LGTBQ friendly, and we don’t tolerate sex abuse. Just a few of the many differences. Also, Science. We know that bread and wine don’t literally magically transform into human flesh and blood just because a man in a collar says it does. And if it did, ew! cannibalism isn’t cool!

/former Catholic
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Episcopal = Catholic lite.


Not so much anymore. We have tried intentionally to distance ourselves from the Catholic church. No church is perfect because people aren’t perfect. But we have women priests, we welcome everyone, we are LGTBQ friendly, and we don’t tolerate sex abuse. Just a few of the many differences. Also, Science. We know that bread and wine don’t literally magically transform into human flesh and blood just because a man in a collar says it does. And if it did, ew! cannibalism isn’t cool!

/former Catholic

So sad. Hope you will find your way home.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Episcopal = Catholic lite.


Not so much anymore. We have tried intentionally to distance ourselves from the Catholic church. No church is perfect because people aren’t perfect. But we have women priests, we welcome everyone, we are LGTBQ friendly, and we don’t tolerate sex abuse. Just a few of the many differences. Also, Science. We know that bread and wine don’t literally magically transform into human flesh and blood just because a man in a collar says it does. And if it did, ew! cannibalism isn’t cool!

/former Catholic

So sad. Hope you will find your way home.


Now THAT ‘S funny.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Episcopal = Catholic lite.


Not so much anymore. We have tried intentionally to distance ourselves from the Catholic church. No church is perfect because people aren’t perfect. But we have women priests, we welcome everyone, we are LGTBQ friendly, and we don’t tolerate sex abuse. Just a few of the many differences. Also, Science. We know that bread and wine don’t literally magically transform into human flesh and blood just because a man in a collar says it does. And if it did, ew! cannibalism isn’t cool!

/former Catholic


Many survivors disagree. You need to read some articles.
Anonymous


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrUvQ3W3nV4

This is roiling the entire country of Poland at the moment.
Anonymous
You know what else is especially harmful to children, Bishop Tobin? Hypocrisy, child molesters, protecting child molesters, lying about child molestation, and organized child molestation.

https://twitter.com/ThomasJTobin1/status/1134784500372770817

Anonymous
Happily Lutheran now.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Episcopal = Catholic lite.


Not so much anymore. We have tried intentionally to distance ourselves from the Catholic church. No church is perfect because people aren’t perfect. But we have women priests, we welcome everyone, we are LGTBQ friendly, and we don’t tolerate sex abuse. Just a few of the many differences. Also, Science. We know that bread and wine don’t literally magically transform into human flesh and blood just because a man in a collar says it does. And if it did, ew! cannibalism isn’t cool!

/former Catholic


Many survivors disagree. You need to read some articles.


Many former Catholics disagree. You need to read "some articles" too
Anonymous
[google]
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Episcopal = Catholic lite.


Not so much anymore. We have tried intentionally to distance ourselves from the Catholic church. No church is perfect because people aren’t perfect. But we have women priests, we welcome everyone, we are LGTBQ friendly, and we don’t tolerate sex abuse. Just a few of the many differences. Also, Science. We know that bread and wine don’t literally magically transform into human flesh and blood just because a man in a collar says it does. And if it did, ew! cannibalism isn’t cool!

/former Catholic

So sad. Hope you will find your way home.


Now THAT ‘S funny.


+1
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:This guy touches on all my reasons in this article

https://brandonvogt.com/im-still-catholic-despite-sex-abuse-crisis/

+1


How lame. Jesus is in all the other churches, too. What is not there is a whole hierarchy that protected priests WHO ARE STILL WORKING WITH CHILDREN

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Episcopal
Southern Baptist
Latter Day Saints
Orthodox Judaism

All have currently serving clergy they protected through systematic coverups.


And secular private schools ( e.g., Horace Mann)
And public schools (e.g., NYC)
And gymnastics
And summer camps

Care to go on?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Born and raised catholic here. Went all throughout K-college. I am now a recovering Catholic. I cannot continue to step foot inside of an organization that is rotten to the core with pedophile. It is abundantly apparent that the RCC is a global cabal of child abusers that commit the most sickening and vile abuse I've ever read. If you are still Catholic why haven't you read the Pennsylvania grand jury report yet? Is it because you willfully want to remain ignorant to the abuses of the Church? STOP claiming that there are only a handful of 'bad apples' in the RCC - the PA grand jury report blows a giant hole through that bogus argument! It clearly shows a systemic and intentional coverup of the massive problems with pedophiles in the Church. In other words, the ENTIRE organization is corrupt to its core. The RCC is an invalid moral authority. How anyone still gives them any money attending mass every Sunday or enrolling their kids in their schools is beyond me.

I'll also say this - my uncle was involved in a huge lawsuit against the RCC for abuse he endured at the hands of a pedo priest during the late 60s. Right before the trial started my grandmother (uncle's mom) died and was buried at the parish where my granny attended and where my uncle was abused. Church officials got wind of the fact that my uncle was thinking about joining the plaintiff's side AND DURING MY GRANDMOTHER'S FUNERAL pulled my uncle to the side and tried to interrogate him about it. They were literally trying to size up my uncle during his mother's funeral to see if he would have the strength to go through and endure a civil lawsuit in which he might have to provide testimony. Utterly disgusting. During the trial, it became apparent that the RCC was going to lose the case, thus the RCC began divesting its wealth to a myriad of banks across the globe in order to make it nearly impossible for the attorney on the plaintiff side to accurately determine the true wealth of the diocese to be able to come up with a number for damages. So much for their moral authority. And the best part was that the Church got off the hook after the trial and hardly had to admit any wrong doing. Not only that, some of the pedo priests were still alive at the time that the trial was over and were still allowed to receive all of the pensions and benefits from the RCC even after they were outed for all of their horrendous abuses of children.

How can anyone still claim to be a part of such an evil and corrupt organization for morality purposes?


The answer here really isn't that difficult. I didn't join and I don't participate in the Catholic Church because I believe any of these things to be what it's about. These are crimes, plain and simple, and should be dealt with as such. But the doctrine is spot on, and the overwhelming majority of the church's administration serves it well. Sorry you can't bifurcate the two.
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