UVA law or Georgetown?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Biglaw firms care an unreasonable amount about where a candidate went to law school, even as a lateral. Don't fool yourself that it really does matter to firms, it shouldn't, but it does.

[/b]I would go with UVA in a heart beat.[b]

The best program by far that UVA offers

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:UVA isn’t close to DC, you’ll end up driving 3 hours each way.

It's only two hours one way through some magnificent countryside. And there are trains daily. Besides when do law students have the time to travel around?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:UVA is a better school.

UVA consistently moves between no. 6 and no. 8. Georgetown is no. 14, which could make it a very poor choice if it should fall below T-14. https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/law-rankings

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Georgetown, whatever your thoughts about the current sitting President doesn’t matter——it is a big feat for a current sitting President’s daughter to attend. I predict Georgetown will slide in solid top 10 after Tiffany graduates.

Georgetown is already at T-14. If it drops one more slot, it will be in that wasteland below the critical T-14 mark.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Uva any day

I beg to differ.

So does Wikipedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgetown_University_Law_Center

“From 1996 to 2017, Georgetown Law held an average rank of 13.82 on the U.S. News & World Report's annual ranking, making it one of the 14 law schools that consistently place at the top[11] since the magazine began the rankings in 1987.[12] Georgetown's part-time J.D. program is consistently ranked #1. The school is also ranked #1 in clinical programs, #2 in tax law, #3 in international law, #5 in trial advocacy, #8 in legal writing, #9 in healthcare law, and #11 in environmental law.[16] Georgetown Law was ranked 5th in the 2010 Super Lawyers ranking, which measures the number of graduates from each law school who are voted Super Lawyers.[17] In an exclusive study conducted by The National Jurist in 2011, Georgetown Law ranked #2 in terms of the total number of partners at the nation's largest law firms.[18] In December 2014, Business Insider ranked Georgetown as the 7th best law school in the U.S.[19]

In a recent law school ranking by law professor Brian Leiter, Georgetown Law ranked within the top ten law schools in selectivity, student quality, and Supreme Court clerkship placements respectively.[20][21] Professor Leiter ranked Georgetown Law #9 among U.S. law schools with respect to the total number of students who secured clerkships with the United States Supreme Court between 2003-2013.[22]


The Hotung International Law Building and fitness center at the Georgetown Law campus.
The 2018 Shanghai Academic Ranking of World Universities (ARWU) ranked Georgetown Law as the #6 best law school in the world.[23] According to the 2019 QS World University Rankings, Georgetown Law is the 8th best law school in the U.S. and 17th best in the world.[24] In the 2019 Times Higher Education World University Rankings, Georgetown Law was ranked 12th in the U.S. and 26th in the world.[25]

Georgetown Law receives the most J.D. applications of any law school in the United States.[26] Georgetown Law was also ranked #1 in a 2019 revealed preferences ranking of law schools where students choose to matriculate.[27]“

That last bit tells you all you need to know.

I have no view on whether any of this is true but I want OP to know that Brian Leiter is a self-important combative lone wolf who publicly attacks graduate students and whose judgment I would not trust. (Ask a philosopher what they think of Brian Leiter.) I wouldn't be surprised if he inserted his own name in here himself.

Wiki is irrelevant in this discussion. It's all about being in the T-14, which any lawyer can tell you and always based on USN&WR. UVA moves around from 6 to 8 but Georgetown is at 14, which could be a problem once it falls below T-14.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You’re in fantasy land. Wait till acceptances. And enjoy George Mason.

There is a lot of truth in this. Almost all acceptances to top schools are GPA and LSAT driven. You need tops in both to get into UVA. A double UVA student was told to his face that he would be waitlisted at UVA (probably courtesy) because his LSAT wasn't over 170. Interestingly, he didn't get into GMU either.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:UVA. Ranked higher, and you get to spend three years in Charlottesville.

That sounds really bad.

Op, undergrad or law school?

the OP listed UVA law in the thread title. Reading comprehension dear.

Did this make you feel better to type it? If you don't stop the reading comprehension remarks I'm going to start reporting you to Jeff. You are adding nothing to the conversation except making yourself feel superior. Don't you realize most of us are on phones and working or handling children at the same time?

[Anonymous]

Totally depends on your career goals. If you want to be in policy then definitely Georgetown. The difference in rankings is negligible, so I would not consider that for a second. Connections and internships are far, far more important, so Georgetown is the place to be if you want to do policy/nonprofit/political work. I've got friends who attended many different law schools, and the Georgetown grads are definitely all doing the most interesting stuff.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Georgetown, whatever your thoughts about the current sitting President doesn’t matter——it is a big feat for a current sitting President’s daughter to attend. I predict Georgetown will slide in solid top 10 after Tiffany graduates.

Georgetown is already at T-14. If it drops one more slot, it will be in that wasteland below the critical T-14 mark.

lol, "the critical T-14" mark.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Georgetown, whatever your thoughts about the current sitting President doesn’t matter——it is a big feat for a current sitting President’s daughter to attend. I predict Georgetown will slide in solid top 10 after Tiffany graduates.

Georgetown is already at T-14. If it drops one more slot, it will be in that wasteland below the critical T-14 mark.

lol, "the critical T-14" mark.[/quote]



Read and learn. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_school_rankings_in_the_United_States

[Anonymous]

For what it's worth, Georgetown Law is $10K more than UVA. Georgetown is now 94,500 a year. UVA is $84,764 a year for in-state and $87,978 for OOS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was on the hiring committee for a biglaw firm. They are generally equivalent to employers unless you attend for something specific, like an LLM in tax at Georgetown. So pick the one that is cheaper or that you think would be more fun for 3 years.

I was too for the premiere firm in the city. We hired mostly Yale, Harvard, Boalt Hall, Stanford, etc. and UVA. We did not hire from Georgetown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The tyranny of US News is bizarre. The QS global rankings, in contrast, put Georgetown at #15 world wide and UVA not even in the top 50. The Academic Ranking of World Universitie[b]s puts Georgetown at #6 and UVa at 13.

The US News rankings have a methodology that favors smaller, richer schools. The other rankings focus more on faculty and student quality.

Why do you keep bringing up World rankings which no one pays attention to? Talk to any lawyer - it's T-14 by USN&WR. You look like a rube making these posts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Georgetown, whatever your thoughts about the current sitting President doesn’t matter——it is a big feat for a current sitting President’s daughter to attend. I predict Georgetown will slide in solid top 10 after Tiffany graduates.

Georgetown is already at T-14. If it drops one more slot, it will be in that wasteland below the critical T-14 mark.

l[b]ol, "the critical T-14" mark.

Read and learn. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_school_rankings_in_the_United_States

You're pathetic. I know what T-14, which is why I think it's hysterical that you think it's critical to anyone except those dummies who are apparently still hanging out on autoadmit 15 years after law school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The tyranny of US News is bizarre. The QS global rankings, in contrast, put Georgetown at #15 world wide and UVA not even in the top 50. The Academic Ranking of World Universitie[b]s puts Georgetown at #6 and UVa at 13.

The US News rankings have a methodology that favors smaller, richer schools. The other rankings focus more on faculty and student quality.

Why do you keep bringing up World rankings which no one pays attention to? Talk to any lawyer - it's T-14 by USN&WR. You look like a rube making these posts.

I think any lawyer who is actually involved in the practice of law, including hiring, would think it's absurd to claim that there's a huge difference between UVA and Georgetown based purely on US News rankings; and would also tell you it's absurd to think there's some kind of cliff between 14 and 15.