Jefferson cup 2019 15-19

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Anonymous wrote:DA teams should be allowed to play in top brackets of non DA tournaments/showcases such as Jeff Cup.

They are allowed to and would be placed in the appropriate bracket. Not necesssrily the top one.

Actually, it's generally not allowed by DA regulations.

http://www.ussoccerda.com/faq

When it does happen, the DA requires a "DA" bracket that conforms to DA rules, for example sub rules. This usually results in DA teams being placed in the "highest" bracket, amongst other DA teams and a scant few others who can have most of their players play FT games. Which in my experience in watching other "high level" teams free sub large numbers of players in like clown car replacements, isn't many.

But they aren’t necessarily the best teams so why would they automatically go into the top bracket?

Duh for the boys DA but don’t lump the girls DA with them. New DA clubs aren’t exactly mowing down the competition at Jeff Cup even in lower divisions

They dont need to go in top bracket. They just need a special bracket that has all teams agreeing to the DA sub rules.

If US soccer allowed, there would be several DA teams playing in Jeff Cup. On the boys side, they would dominate. On the girls side they would be competitive in top bracket with top ECNL teams like Michigan Jaguars PDA etc.

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Anonymous wrote:DA teams should be allowed to play in top brackets of non DA tournaments/showcases such as Jeff Cup.

They are allowed to and would be placed in the appropriate bracket. Not necesssrily the top one.

Actually, it's generally not allowed by DA regulations.

http://www.ussoccerda.com/faq

When it does happen, the DA requires a "DA" bracket that conforms to DA rules, for example sub rules. This usually results in DA teams being placed in the "highest" bracket, amongst other DA teams and a scant few others who can have most of their players play FT games. Which in my experience in watching other "high level" teams free sub large numbers of players in like clown car replacements, isn't many.

But they aren’t necessarily the best teams so why would they automatically go into the top bracket?

Duh for the boys DA but don’t lump the girls DA with them. New DA clubs aren’t exactly mowing down the competition at Jeff Cup even in lower divisions

They dont need to go in top bracket. They just need a special bracket that has all teams agreeing to the DA sub rules.

If US soccer allowed, there would be several DA teams playing in Jeff Cup. On the boys side, they would dominate. On the girls side they would be competitive in top bracket with top ECNL teams like Michigan Jaguars PDA etc.

Duh for the boys DA but don’t lump the girls DA with them. New DA clubs aren’t exactly mowing down the competition at Jeff Cup even in lower divisions

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DA teams should be allowed to play in top brackets of non DA tournaments/showcases such as Jeff Cup.

They are allowed to and would be placed in the appropriate bracket. Not necesssrily the top one.

Actually, it's generally not allowed by DA regulations.

http://www.ussoccerda.com/faq

When it does happen, the DA requires a "DA" bracket that conforms to DA rules, for example sub rules. This usually results in DA teams being placed in the "highest" bracket, amongst other DA teams and a scant few others who can have most of their players play FT games. Which in my experience in watching other "high level" teams free sub large numbers of players in like clown car replacements, isn't many.

But they aren’t necessarily the best teams so why would they automatically go into the top bracket?

They dont need to go in top bracket. They just need a special bracket that has all teams agreeing to the DA sub rules.

If US soccer allowed, there would be several DA teams playing in Jeff Cup. On the boys side, they would dominate. On the girls side they would be competitive in top bracket with top ECNL teams like Michigan Jaguars PDA etc.

On the girls' side, there is evidence for this even in the u13 pilot group on the girls side from the past weekend's results

http://events.gotsport.com/events/results.aspx?EventID=66907&Gender=Girls&Age=13

Even the vaunted VDA ECNL group that seems to be revered here as the best of the lot struggled against Penn Fusion DA and finished at the bottom of their bracket. Penn Fusion u13, while being a very good team, has lost to FCV DA in league games, for some reference. Reviewing the results, the GDA teams that competed generally did well across brackets.

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Anonymous wrote:DA teams should be allowed to play in top brackets of non DA tournaments/showcases such as Jeff Cup.

They are allowed to and would be placed in the appropriate bracket. Not necesssrily the top one.

Actually, it's generally not allowed by DA regulations.

http://www.ussoccerda.com/faq

When it does happen, the DA requires a "DA" bracket that conforms to DA rules, for example sub rules. This usually results in DA teams being placed in the "highest" bracket, amongst other DA teams and a scant few others who can have most of their players play FT games. Which in my experience in watching other "high level" teams free sub large numbers of players in like clown car replacements, isn't many.

But they aren’t necessarily the best teams so why would they automatically go into the top bracket?

I don’t think we should confuse the U13 pilot teams with the actual DA teams. Other than U13 pilot teams there are no DA teams playing in Jeff Cup.

They dont need to go in top bracket. They just need a special bracket that has all teams agreeing to the DA sub rules.

If US soccer allowed, there would be several DA teams playing in Jeff Cup. On the boys side, they would dominate. On the girls side they would be competitive in top bracket with top ECNL teams like Michigan Jaguars PDA etc.

On the girls' side, there is evidence for this even in the u13 pilot group on the girls side from the past weekend's results

http://events.gotsport.com/events/results.aspx?EventID=66907&Gender=Girls&Age=13

Even the vaunted VDA ECNL group that seems to be revered here as the best of the lot struggled against Penn Fusion DA and finished at the bottom of their bracket. Penn Fusion u13, while being a very good team, has lost to FCV DA in league games, for some reference. Reviewing the results, the GDA teams that competed generally did well across brackets.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DA teams should be allowed to play in top brackets of non DA tournaments/showcases such as Jeff Cup.

They are allowed to and would be placed in the appropriate bracket. Not necesssrily the top one.

Actually, it's generally not allowed by DA regulations.

http://www.ussoccerda.com/faq

When it does happen, the DA requires a "DA" bracket that conforms to DA rules, for example sub rules. This usually results in DA teams being placed in the "highest" bracket, amongst other DA teams and a scant few others who can have most of their players play FT games. Which in my experience in watching other "high level" teams free sub large numbers of players in like clown car replacements, isn't many.

But they aren’t necessarily the best teams so why would they automatically go into the top bracket?

They dont need to go in top bracket. They just need a special bracket that has all teams agreeing to the DA sub rules.

If US soccer allowed, there would be several DA teams playing in Jeff Cup. On the boys side, they would dominate. On the girls side they would be competitive in top bracket with top ECNL teams like Michigan Jaguars PDA etc.

On the girls' side, there is evidence for this even in the u13 pilot group on the girls side from the past weekend's results

http://events.gotsport.com/events/results.aspx?EventID=66907&Gender=Girls&Age=13

Even the vaunted VDA ECNL group that seems to be revered here as the best of the lot struggled against Penn Fusion DA and finished at the bottom of their bracket. Penn Fusion u13, while being a very good team, has lost to FCV DA in league games, for some reference. Reviewing the results, the GDA teams that competed generally did well across brackets.

I don’t think we should confuse the U13 pilot program with the DA. Other than U13 there are no DA teams competing in Jeff Cup.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DA teams should be allowed to play in top brackets of non DA tournaments/showcases such as Jeff Cup.

They are allowed to and would be placed in the appropriate bracket. Not necesssrily the top one.

Actually, it's generally not allowed by DA regulations.

http://www.ussoccerda.com/faq

When it does happen, the DA requires a "DA" bracket that conforms to DA rules, for example sub rules. This usually results in DA teams being placed in the "highest" bracket, amongst other DA teams and a scant few others who can have most of their players play FT games. Which in my experience in watching other "high level" teams free sub large numbers of players in like clown car replacements, isn't many.

But they aren’t necessarily the best teams so why would they automatically go into the top bracket?

They dont need to go in top bracket. They just need a special bracket that has all teams agreeing to the DA sub rules.

If US soccer allowed, there would be several DA teams playing in Jeff Cup. On the boys side, they would dominate. On the girls side they would be competitive in top bracket with top ECNL teams like Michigan Jaguars PDA etc.

On the girls' side, there is evidence for this even in the u13 pilot group on the girls side from the past weekend's results

http://events.gotsport.com/events/results.aspx?EventID=66907&Gender=Girls&Age=13

Even the vaunted VDA ECNL group that seems to be revered here as the best of the lot struggled against Penn Fusion DA and finished at the bottom of their bracket. Penn Fusion u13, while being a very good team, has lost to FCV DA in league games, for some reference. Reviewing the results, the GDA teams that competed generally did well across brackets.

I don’t think we should confuse the U13 pilot program with the DA. Other than U13 there are no DA teams competing in Jeff Cup.

Ummm, these u13 GDA pilot teams will go on to be u14 GDA teams next year. It's a good basis for comparison due to DA rules. Considering the younger age groups will be where the demarcation between GDA vs everything else occurs going forward, it's actually a very good place to look for clues.

Some just don't like the answers it's showing.

[Anonymous]

SSS, which is DA next year, didn't lose a single game in all age groups. They had one draw and multiple wins, generally by 2+ goals.

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Anonymous wrote:SSS, which is DA next year, didn't lose a single game in all age groups. They had one draw and multiple wins, generally by 2+ goals.

True, but my point is if DA teams nationwide competed against non DA teams more often it would be easier to assess their relative abilities compared to other teams.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DA teams should be allowed to play in top brackets of non DA tournaments/showcases such as Jeff Cup.

They are allowed to and would be placed in the appropriate bracket. Not necesssrily the top one.

Actually, it's generally not allowed by DA regulations.

http://www.ussoccerda.com/faq

When it does happen, the DA requires a "DA" bracket that conforms to DA rules, for example sub rules. This usually results in DA teams being placed in the "highest" bracket, amongst other DA teams and a scant few others who can have most of their players play FT games. Which in my experience in watching other "high level" teams free sub large numbers of players in like clown car replacements, isn't many.

But they aren’t necessarily the best teams so why would they automatically go into the top bracket?

They dont need to go in top bracket. They just need a special bracket that has all teams agreeing to the DA sub rules.

If US soccer allowed, there would be several DA teams playing in Jeff Cup. On the boys side, they would dominate. On the girls side they would be competitive in top bracket with top ECNL teams like Michigan Jaguars PDA etc.

On the girls' side, there is evidence for this even in the u13 pilot group on the girls side from the past weekend's results

http://events.gotsport.com/events/results.aspx?EventID=66907&Gender=Girls&Age=13

Even the vaunted VDA ECNL group that seems to be revered here as the best of the lot struggled against Penn Fusion DA and finished at the bottom of their bracket. Penn Fusion u13, while being a very good team, has lost to FCV DA in league games, for some reference. Reviewing the results, the GDA teams that competed generally did well across brackets.

Spirit VA in the building. VDA 06 wasn’t good at ncfc tournament either. What does that have to do with all girls da teams probably my not making it into top divisions of Jeff cup? Penn Fusion is good. VDA is good. FCV is good. What’s the point?

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Anonymous wrote:SSS, which is DA next year, didn't lose a single game in all age groups. They had one draw and multiple wins, generally by 2+ goals.

True, but my point is if DA teams nationwide competed against non DA teams more often it would be easier to assess their relative abilities compared to other teams.

Like ECNL, there are some good ones and not good ones. It’s common sense that ALL the DA teams wouldn’t belong in the top bracket of Jeff cup.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:SSS, which is DA next year, didn't lose a single game in all age groups. They had one draw and multiple wins, generally by 2+ goals.

True, but my point is if DA teams nationwide competed against non DA teams more often it would be easier to assess their relative abilities compared to other teams.

They lost some games last weekend in younger Jeff cup. It’s the end of the world and they’re horrible like VDA who lost games too.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DA teams should be allowed to play in top brackets of non DA tournaments/showcases such as Jeff Cup.

They are allowed to and would be placed in the appropriate bracket. Not necesssrily the top one.

Actually, it's generally not allowed by DA regulations.

http://www.ussoccerda.com/faq

When it does happen, the DA requires a "DA" bracket that conforms to DA rules, for example sub rules. This usually results in DA teams being placed in the "highest" bracket, amongst other DA teams and a scant few others who can have most of their players play FT games. Which in my experience in watching other "high level" teams free sub large numbers of players in like clown car replacements, isn't many.

But they aren’t necessarily the best teams so why would they automatically go into the top bracket?

They dont need to go in top bracket. They just need a special bracket that has all teams agreeing to the DA sub rules.

If US soccer allowed, there would be several DA teams playing in Jeff Cup. On the boys side, they would dominate. On the girls side they would be competitive in top bracket with top ECNL teams like Michigan Jaguars PDA etc.

On the girls' side, there is evidence for this even in the u13 pilot group on the girls side from the past weekend's results

http://events.gotsport.com/events/results.aspx?EventID=66907&Gender=Girls&Age=13

Even the vaunted VDA ECNL group that seems to be revered here as the best of the lot struggled against Penn Fusion DA and finished at the bottom of their bracket. Penn Fusion u13, while being a very good team, has lost to FCV DA in league games, for some reference. Reviewing the results, the GDA teams that competed generally did well across brackets.

Spirit VA in the building. VDA 06 wasn’t good at ncfc tournament either. What does that have to do with all girls da teams probably my not making it into top divisions of Jeff cup? Penn Fusion is good. VDA is good. FCV is good. What’s the point?

WTF does Spirit VA have to do with the point I was making, which backs up the OPs point that GDA would be competitive with the best. The point is validated by the data.

Why are you so obsessed with Spirit VA?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SSS, which is DA next year, didn't lose a single game in all age groups. They had one draw and multiple wins, generally by 2+ goals.

True, but my point is if DA teams nationwide competed against non DA teams more often it would be easier to assess their relative abilities compared to other teams.

Like ECNL, there are some good ones and not good ones. It’s common sense that ALL the DA teams wouldn’t belong in the top bracket of Jeff cup.

I agree. I think Jeff Cup and NCFC (formerly CASL) should add DA brackets. I wasn't responding to any point. I maintain DA and ECNL comprise the best teams.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SSS, which is DA next year, didn't lose a single game in all age groups. They had one draw and multiple wins, generally by 2+ goals.

True, but my point is if DA teams nationwide competed against non DA teams more often it would be easier to assess their relative abilities compared to other teams.

They lost some games last weekend in younger Jeff cup. It’s the end of the world and they’re horrible like VDA who lost games too.

I don't look at younger age groups that way. Those are developmental years.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SSS, which is DA next year, didn't lose a single game in all age groups. They had one draw and multiple wins, generally by 2+ goals.

True, but my point is if DA teams nationwide competed against non DA teams more often it would be easier to assess their relative abilities compared to other teams.

They lost some games last weekend in younger Jeff cup. It’s the end of the world and they’re horrible like VDA who lost games too.

I don't look at younger age groups that way. Those are developmental years.

And this weekend was a showcase...