IVY BOUND -- WHICH PUBLIC OR PRIVATE WILL GET ME THERE?

Anonymous
Time to dismount from your high horse pp. I love when people criticize other people's desires when they have the same hidden desires themselves. I'm not fooled by "goody goodies" preaching.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Time to dismount from your high horse pp. I love when people criticize other people's desires when they have the same hidden desires themselves. I'm not fooled by "goody goodies" preaching.


PP here. I don't have a hidden desire for my child to attend an Ivy - or an overt one. I went to Princeton and I have no illusions about the pros and cons of attending a big, prestigious university (and believe me, there are cons). I was so swept up in the big name, and felt so much subtle pressure from my family, that I never seriously considered another school (I got in early action, back when that was an option). And that was a big mistake for me. I would have been much happier at a small college if I had really examined my interests and priorities. That's my goal for my kid - to help him make a good choice based on his unique personality and talents. NOT to join the rowing team or do a bunch of BS activities that don't really interest him just to get into a big-name school.

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Anonymous wrote:Time to dismount from your high horse pp. I love when people criticize other people's desires when they have the same hidden desires themselves. I'm not fooled by "goody goodies" preaching.


PP here. I don't have a hidden desire for my child to attend an Ivy - or an overt one. I went to Princeton and I have no illusions about the pros and cons of attending a big, prestigious university (and believe me, there are cons). I was so swept up in the big name, and felt so much subtle pressure from my family, that I never seriously considered another school (I got in early action, back when that was an option). And that was a big mistake for me. I would have been much happier at a small college if I had really examined my interests and priorities. That's my goal for my kid - to help him make a good choice based on his unique personality and talents. NOT to join the rowing team or do a bunch of BS activities that don't really interest him just to get into a big-name school.


Brava!
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Time to dismount from your high horse pp. I love when people criticize other people's desires when they have the same hidden desires themselves. I'm not fooled by "goody goodies" preaching.


PP here. I don't have a hidden desire for my child to attend an Ivy - or an overt one. I went to Princeton and I have no illusions about the pros and cons of attending a big, prestigious university (and believe me, there are cons). I was so swept up in the big name, and felt so much subtle pressure from my family, that I never seriously considered another school (I got in early action, back when that was an option). And that was a big mistake for me. I would have been much happier at a small college if I had really examined my interests and priorities. That's my goal for my kid - to help him make a good choice based on his unique personality and talents. NOT to join the rowing team or do a bunch of BS activities that don't really interest him just to get into a big-name school.



Honestly, I never thought I'd see the day that someone who had the great privilege to go to Princeton would feel sorry for themselves. My family was so very poor -- I commuted and went to my local university (luckily there was a good one in my town). I commuted by two buses each way -- a total of 4 buses a day. I worked part-time jobs to pay 100% of my tuition (no loans, no grants, no nothing) with 9 kids in my family. I feel lucky to have graduated. No one was looking out for me. So let me put my violin away for you dear woman who "felt pressured" to go to Princeton! WHINER INGRATe
Anonymous
She didn't sound to me as if she felt sorry for herself. More like, in retrospect, she saw how her parents handled college choice and decided to take a different approach with her own children.

In the end, I guess I don't see how it reflects poorly on her that she was born into one set of circumstances/expectations and well on you that you were born into another.

And I'm guessing that, to the extent you have a choice, you're not eager for your own children to replicate your college experience.
Anonymous
PP -- my kid goes to an Ivy -- she's not whining about it. Instead, she thanks us everyday for paying for her to go there.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:PP -- my kid goes to an Ivy -- she's not whining about it. Instead, she thanks us everyday for paying for her to go there.


I'm so glad that you found a college that is a good fit for your daughter. Do you think it would be a good fit for every student? Is every student your daughter knows equally happy and grateful? Or is it possible that some kids are at that college but unhappy, and wishing they had gone somewhere else?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Time to dismount from your high horse pp. I love when people criticize other people's desires when they have the same hidden desires themselves. I'm not fooled by "goody goodies" preaching.


PP here. I don't have a hidden desire for my child to attend an Ivy - or an overt one. I went to Princeton and I have no illusions about the pros and cons of attending a big, prestigious university (and believe me, there are cons). I was so swept up in the big name, and felt so much subtle pressure from my family, that I never seriously considered another school (I got in early action, back when that was an option). And that was a big mistake for me. I would have been much happier at a small college if I had really examined my interests and priorities. That's my goal for my kid - to help him make a good choice based on his unique personality and talents. NOT to join the rowing team or do a bunch of BS activities that don't really interest him just to get into a big-name school.



Honestly, I never thought I'd see the day that someone who had the great privilege to go to Princeton would feel sorry for themselves. My family was so very poor -- I commuted and went to my local university (luckily there was a good one in my town). I commuted by two buses each way -- a total of 4 buses a day. I worked part-time jobs to pay 100% of my tuition (no loans, no grants, no nothing) with 9 kids in my family. I feel lucky to have graduated. No one was looking out for me. So let me put my violin away for you dear woman who "felt pressured" to go to Princeton! WHINER INGRATe


PP again. You sound like an impressive person who worked very hard and deserves respect and admiration for everything you've accomplished. However, your view of me is inaccurate. I was grateful to my parents for paying my tuition and grateful for the great education that I got. I just think I was a bad fit for the school and would have gotten more out of a different college. And I think it's a mistake to fetishize the Ivies and to automatically assume that your child will thrive at one when that child is five years old.
Anonymous
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Honestly, I never thought I'd see the day that someone who had the great privilege to go to Princeton would feel sorry for themselves. My family was so very poor -- I commuted and went to my local university (luckily there was a good one in my town). I commuted by two buses each way -- a total of 4 buses a day. I worked part-time jobs to pay 100% of my tuition (no loans, no grants, no nothing) with 9 kids in my family. I feel lucky to have graduated. No one was looking out for me. So let me put my violin away for you dear woman who "felt pressured" to go to Princeton! WHINER INGRATe


Oh boo hoo hoo. you had to work your way through college. Forgive me if I save my sympathy for the 2 billion people in the world who live on less than a dollar a day, and who never had the chance to go to elementary school, let alone college. People for whom your bus fair would have been more than they earn in a day.
You are the whiner ingrate - and as it happens the pp wasn't whining, merely commenting on whether or not she would pressure her daughter to attend an Ivy.
Anonymous
PP -- you can't spell and you can't read. I'll save my sympathy for your poor kids and your snide attitude. I don't think your kids even go to private schools -- what are you doing on the private school thread?
Anonymous
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PP again. You sound like an impressive person who worked very hard and deserves respect and admiration for everything you've accomplished. However, your view of me is inaccurate. I was grateful to my parents for paying my tuition and grateful for the great education that I got. I just think I was a bad fit for the school and would have gotten more out of a different college. And I think it's a mistake to fetishize the Ivies and to automatically assume that your child will thrive at one when that child is five years old.

You actually sound like a nice person Princeton. I'm sorry that I read your tone wrong.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I don't think your kids even go to private schools -- what are you doing on the private school thread?


This is at least the second time this accusation has popped up. We're banning people from reading threads now? You're gonna post bonfire locations to burn books next?
Aside from the fact it is a completely ridiculous thread... READ the SUBJECT LINE.
Did I forget to apply for the exclusive honor of reading this thread? So sorry. For you.
Anonymous
I'll bet the farm her child will apply to Princeton!
Anonymous
So what? The questions are (a) whether they feel pressured to do so (or to go if accepted) and (b) whether it's a good fit for the DC(s) that got in

Again, PP didn't say she wasn't anti-Princeton. She's anti-pressure and pro-fit.

Of course, one other possible outcome could be that her DCs feel pressured -- but not by their parents (or by the parent who posted)!
Anonymous
So if you are not interested in getting your child into an ivy, you are a bad parent
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