Night diapers for 5+ year olds

[Anonymous]

Both my kids were not day trained until right around their third birthdays. Night trained at the same time. My nephew was day trained at 22 months and slept in a pull-up until 7.5. But you are better than all of us OP.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree that age of day training has relatively little to do with age of night training— but I tend to believe that method has *some* effect. My kid started waking up dry in the morning at least occasionally at 3 months old, more than half the time by 6-8 months, and always by 15 months. Hard to believe that had nothing at all to do with the fact that she wore cotton diapers and we took her to the potty every time she woke up, from close to birth. Definitely anecdote, but it kind of defies belief to think that absorbent disposable diapers have nothing to do with the increasing lateness of night training (on average).

Agreed. Somehow the average age for potty training in the prior generation was 1.5. Just about everyone was potty trained by 2. Nowadays most people don’t even try until their kid between 2 and 3. Then you add in absorbent disposable diapers and it’s no wonder we’re creating all these potty training issues that people convince themselves are biological. Funny how they weren’t biological for previous generations...

My husband wet the bed until he was 10. There were no pullups, they just had to change the sheets a lot. It happened in previous generations too, just people didn't talk about it or have the accommodations of pullups.

Of course! I'm the original PP here. There have absolutely, without a doubt, always been some kids who wet the bed far past 2 or 3 or 4-- and have been, forever. My aunt wet the bed until she was 8 or 9 and she was born in the 1940s and "potty trained" otherwise before she was 2. But the *average* age of night dryness has risen quite a bit in the past 50 years. That really undermines the credibility of all these pediatricians (not necessarily well-trained on the subject) claiming that night dryness is "100% biological" and it's "totally normal" for the *average* kid to be wearing a night diaper at age 6 or 8. I don't think it's usually conscious-- although I've heard of more than one parent realizing their kid waited until waking up to poop or pee their pull-up. I think it's more of a biofeedback thing, even in one's sleep. Of course, that's just for most kids, and it's *also true* that if it's not causing problems in your household and it's easier for you to keep your kid in a night diaper until they're "100% dry for 2 months" (or similar, as I've seen recommended)-- then go for it. Except for a small amount of additional landfill fodder, I don't see how it affects me. I'm just not going to be convinced that *for most kids* nighttime bladder control is impervious to absolutely any sort of outside influence.

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Right.

For some kids, being night trained is 100% biological =/= for all kids, being night trained is 100% biological.

This is like the picky eater thread. Some kids have serious sensory issues and are truly picky eaters with little control over it. On the other hand, present-day America has so many more so-called picky eaters than other cultures and eras that it's hard to believe that all of them fall into the first category. In any event, very few fall into the category of badly-parented. There are a lot of things going on. And there's no way to tell by looking at a random stranger's kid which category they fall into, so hold the judgment. But you also don't have to uncritically accept the idea that it's all biological or whatever. Not judging strangers doesn't have to mean you don't recognize larger societal trends.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean - good for you that yours was night trained so early? I just don't get what you're aiming at with your post. Both my boys were day trained at early 2. One was night trained at just after turning 6 and the other 4.5. Once has nothing to do with the other, but I'm super happy that you find pride in your kids' bladder capabilities.

I agree. Op seems incredibly judgmental.

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Anonymous wrote:Right.

For some kids, being night trained is 100% biological =/= for all kids, being night trained is 100% biological.

This is like the picky eater thread. Some kids have serious sensory issues and are truly picky eaters with little control over it. On the other hand, present-day America has so many more so-called picky eaters than other cultures and eras that it's hard to believe that all of them fall into the first category. In any event, very few fall into the category of badly-parented. There are a lot of things going on. And there's no way to tell by looking at a random stranger's kid which category they fall into, so hold the judgment. But you also don't have to uncritically accept the idea that it's all biological or whatever. Not judging strangers doesn't have to mean you don't recognize larger societal trends.

I don't think there are that many older kids that are happy to be still wearing a pull-up. For my kid it meant no sleepovers or over night camp as he got older. It is not like oh if I refuse chicken I get pizza!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The judgement in these posts is awful. No wonder children are ashamed and parents don’t share their childrens’ medical issues.
My 10 year old skips sleep overs and camps because she doesn’t want people to know she wets the bed. She is mortified by it. We have tried a lot of things to help her but nothing has help.

You all should be ashamed of yourself.

This. Previous posters are not superior parents because their children potty trained younger or stay dry at night. It's time for you all to get over yourselves for your claimed "accomplishments."

[Anonymous]

My almost 5 year old has woken up dry maybe 15 times ever. He is always so proud when he does and is embarrassed when he has had pull up leaks. Kills me when he says sorry about this (I promptly correct him of xourse)

[Anonymous]

OP must have very low self-esteem that she has to come here to educate everyone that kids who wet the bed have either bad, lazy parents, or have something inherently wrong with them. Your right OP your are much smarter than the rest of us.

[Anonymous]

It’s not usually a question of toilet training. Rather some kids neuro systems are not mature enough to wake them up when they need to pee at night. No amount of yelling, punishments, etc will work - their brains are not ready. Best to handle it calmly, use pull ups to keep beds dry and figure they’ll grow out of given some time.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD was potty trained successfully right at 2. She wore Goodnights until two months after her 5th birthday.

Your DD was successfully potty trained at 62 months.

What's your problem, PP?

I think the PP is trying to point out that her kid wasn't toilet trained until she was 5.2 years old. It's odd to say a kid is potty trained if they still need a diaper or pullups.

No, you and PP are just smug assholes. A lot of kids are fully potty trained while they are awake, but are very heavy sleepers and the urge to pee does not wake them up. There is a HUGE difference in these two things and it's rude and unhelpful to say that a child who wets the bed (which is a purely biological thing, by the way, all your wishing and hoping and wanting to shame strangers on the internet is not going to change that) is not potty trained.

Or maybe you're just an enabling asshole.

You have convinced me. My child's doctor is wrong. My husband's parents are wrong (they must have been bad parents too b/c he wet the bed until 6). The fact that we've tried waking her up in the middle of the night for two weeks (still woke up wet), or going without pullups for 3-4 days to see if she's able to do it (she's not, we had to change the bed once, sometimes twice every night), that must just be her waiting it out so she can get the pull up back, right?

[Anonymous]

my DD stopped bedwetting when she was like 14, she was a late bloomer and she is 15 and she will have a couple a couple times a month, especially if if she thirsty. but we did wear diapers or nighttimes pants, a couple years ago Goodnites were selling this Goodnites True fell or something like they and my DD loved them. They were basically real underwear not sure why they dont sell them anymore.

[Anonymous]

What are the issues going on here?

[Anonymous]

Totally normal at age 5

[Anonymous]

goodnites or store brand big kids pullups
mostly goodnites

[Anonymous]

So my 6 year old is still in a pull up at night. We started training him a little over age 2 and while pee was easy, poop was a DISASTER. Rounds of constipation. Years of MiraLAX. Withholding. Pooping in his pants. Tears. It was a SCENE. Finally succeeded at just over three years old, just in time for PK3.

For us, night training just wasn’t a priority. He sleeps a solid 12 hours a night, very soundly, and wakes up with a VERY full diaper. He tends to drink a lot of water/milk with dinner and given his history of constipation, I do not want to limit fluids. Honestly, we just haven’t bothered. We’ve been focusing on things like chores and table manners.

He turned six about a month ago and we started trying at night for the first time, but we’re being low key about it. Moved him from a diaper (with a sposie pad) to a Goodnights pull up, put a little potty next to his bed, encouraging him to use it, offering a gummy bear if he wakes up with a dry pull-up. He’s made huge progress - he’s definitely getting up to pee first thing in the morning and sometimes at night, and he’s earning that gummy bear about 3 times a week. He’s pretty motivated. I feel fine about it, and am not in a huge rush.

His little sister is 4.5, and I’ve never tried with her at night. She’s still in a regular diaper. She potty trained in about 48 hours at 2.5. Would have trained earlier but we were coming off such a bad experience with her brother we made her wait.

So in our case, for better or worse, it’s really a parenting issue.