Giving a child the name of a term of endearment? ("real name")

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: If I see a Heinz Ketchum's resume on my desk I'm going to have a good laugh and assume that he is just as big of a freak as his parents were to name him that (an apple doesn't fall far from the tree) and move on to a Michael. At least I'd be able to interview the person and not fight laughter the whole time. This life if hard enough. Kids are going to have to compete in so many ways to succeed. Why make it any harder than it has to be.


So you're faced with a person who has likely already been teased and questioned his whole life, and add to the hardness that is his life by tossing his resume without due consideration? How is a person with a weird name given by weird parents ever to overcome? You're deliberately and knowingly excluding someone based on something he cannot control.

Just look at the MIL thread... all those horrible MILs, but someone here finds the sons worthy enough to stick with, even if it means dealing with the awful MILs. Isn't this easy proof that we are not clones of our parents, that their judgments are not ours? I can't wrap my head around this attitude. I guess because I have a strange name and a mean mom, and neither of those things is the totality of me.


This is EXACTLY what I was talking about (I'm the one you're quoting above). Children with highly unusual names will have a lifetime of explaining this very thing. "My name is not the totality of me." "I'm really not weird, although my name is." All I was trying to point out is that a Peter will most likely never have to do this. Dare I also point out that they do have some control over it once they reach adulthood.
You say "how is a person with a weird name ever to overcome this?" I was making a point to the parents, not the child that already has this name. It's not fair to set up your child for a lifetime of explaining. Of course it would not be fair of me to toss out a resume just because of a weird name, but I bet you a lot of those resume's DO get tossed out. People assume a lot from your name (e.i. he is Jewish, he is black, he is Irish, bla bla) and this kind of unfairness goes on all the time!!! I was arguing against setting your child up for this with giving him a name like Heinz Ketchum.
Anonymous
PP, I totally agree. No one is making fun of poor Sweetie. We are telling all the future Sweetie-namers not to do it. Think before you doom your child to a lifetime of explaining their stupid name.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: If I see a Heinz Ketchum's resume on my desk I'm going to have a good laugh and assume that he is just as big of a freak as his parents were to name him that (an apple doesn't fall far from the tree) and move on to a Michael. At least I'd be able to interview the person and not fight laughter the whole time. This life if hard enough. Kids are going to have to compete in so many ways to succeed. Why make it any harder than it has to be.


So you're faced with a person who has likely already been teased and questioned his whole life, and add to the hardness that is his life by tossing his resume without due consideration? How is a person with a weird name given by weird parents ever to overcome? You're deliberately and knowingly excluding someone based on something he cannot control.

Just look at the MIL thread... all those horrible MILs, but someone here finds the sons worthy enough to stick with, even if it means dealing with the awful MILs. Isn't this easy proof that we are not clones of our parents, that their judgments are not ours? I can't wrap my head around this attitude. I guess because I have a strange name and a mean mom, and neither of those things is the totality of me.


This is EXACTLY what I was talking about (I'm the one you're quoting above). Children with highly unusual names will have a lifetime of explaining this very thing. "My name is not the totality of me." "I'm really not weird, although my name is." All I was trying to point out is that a Peter will most likely never have to do this. Dare I also point out that they do have some control over it once they reach adulthood.
You say "how is a person with a weird name ever to overcome this?" I was making a point to the parents, not the child that already has this name. It's not fair to set up your child for a lifetime of explaining. Of course it would not be fair of me to toss out a resume just because of a weird name, but I bet you a lot of those resume's DO get tossed out. People assume a lot from your name (e.i. he is Jewish, he is black, he is Irish, bla bla) and this kind of unfairness goes on all the time!!! I was arguing against setting your child up for this with giving him a name like Heinz Ketchum.


Yet you clearly stated that you would punish the bearer of the weird name for his parents' quirk.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: If I see a Heinz Ketchum's resume on my desk I'm going to have a good laugh and assume that he is just as big of a freak as his parents were to name him that (an apple doesn't fall far from the tree) and move on to a Michael. At least I'd be able to interview the person and not fight laughter the whole time. This life if hard enough. Kids are going to have to compete in so many ways to succeed. Why make it any harder than it has to be.


So you're faced with a person who has likely already been teased and questioned his whole life, and add to the hardness that is his life by tossing his resume without due consideration? How is a person with a weird name given by weird parents ever to overcome? You're deliberately and knowingly excluding someone based on something he cannot control.

Just look at the MIL thread... all those horrible MILs, but someone here finds the sons worthy enough to stick with, even if it means dealing with the awful MILs. Isn't this easy proof that we are not clones of our parents, that their judgments are not ours? I can't wrap my head around this attitude. I guess because I have a strange name and a mean mom, and neither of those things is the totality of me.


This is EXACTLY what I was talking about (I'm the one you're quoting above). Children with highly unusual names will have a lifetime of explaining this very thing. "My name is not the totality of me." "I'm really not weird, although my name is." All I was trying to point out is that a Peter will most likely never have to do this. Dare I also point out that they do have some control over it once they reach adulthood.
You say "how is a person with a weird name ever to overcome this?" I was making a point to the parents, not the child that already has this name. It's not fair to set up your child for a lifetime of explaining. Of course it would not be fair of me to toss out a resume just because of a weird name, but I bet you a lot of those resume's DO get tossed out. People assume a lot from your name (e.i. he is Jewish, he is black, he is Irish, bla bla) and this kind of unfairness goes on all the time!!! I was arguing against setting your child up for this with giving him a name like Heinz Ketchum.


Yet you clearly stated that you would punish the bearer of the weird name for his parents' quirk.


In my second post I didn't negate myself and say that I wouldn't toss out his resume. I merely said that is would be unfair of me to do that. Get my point now!!! In cause you didn't, life for poor Sweetie will be unnecessarily hard and unfair in big part due to her name.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

In my second post I didn't negate myself and say that I wouldn't toss out his resume. I merely said that is would be unfair of me to do that. Get my point now!!! In cause you didn't, life for poor Sweetie will be unnecessarily hard and unfair in big part due to her name.


Because of people like you. Proud of yourself?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

In my second post I didn't negate myself and say that I wouldn't toss out his resume. I merely said that is would be unfair of me to do that. Get my point now!!! In cause you didn't, life for poor Sweetie will be unnecessarily hard and unfair in big part due to her name.


Because of people like you. Proud of yourself?


That's life sweetheart.
Anonymous
Interesting how many people are so happy to discriminate. It says a lot more about you than it ever will about these kids parents.I work with so many people from other countries with names I've never heard of and have to work at pronoucing correctly. This is no different to me than the Honey's and Sweeties. And I'm sure these people get discriminated against as well. At least they don't have to end up working for such high and mighty assholes. They deserve better.
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