NYC Desegregation Plan

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There are ZERO "special schools and programs" in west Bethesda and only 1 in general Bethesda. The chevy chase CES for 4th and 5th grade. Other than that zero language immersion special programs, zero science special programs, zero liberal arts special programs, zero LD special programs, zero engineering special programs, zero MS magnet schools, zero HS magnet schools.

Any special schools and programs would require lengthy commutes in rush hour or relocating.

County does not care, MCPS does not care. The mindset is the parents can take care of all of that stuff for those Bethesda kids, out side of school, with their own after-tax money.

WJ has apex program. BCC has IB. NBMS has a GT/LD program.

Which part of Bethesda is "west Bethesda", and which part is "general Bethesda"?

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Anonymous wrote:Given all the discussion about the selection process for CES and middle school magnet programs here in MoCo, folks might find the following article about a plan for increasing diversity in NYC schools of interest.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/06/nyregion/middle-school-admission-desegregation-nyc.html?action=click&module=MoreInSection&pgtype=Article®ion=Footer&contentCollection=New%20York

Another great idea funded by China (or was it Russia?) to keep our students behind theirs so they can slowly but surely catch up.

Dude, China and Russia are already ahead in STEM (that's why all those Chinese PhDs and Russian programmers live in MoCo on work visas, trying to prep their offspring to get into TPMS). As for red-bloodied US-born native-speakers, they all should benefit from enriched curriculum, not just second-generation Asians.

Dude, you're quite slow. Liberal arts?

The joke was precisely based on the fact that China and Russia are way ahead in STEM, and myopic "desegregation" schemes like NYC only serves to further "segregate" our students from the jobs of the future, leaving them open to other countries.

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Anonymous wrote:there are all sorts of "special schools and programs" in this county and in this county, but the crown jewels are always those require test-in. In a few years, those schools will be nothing special. If a student is well-qualified, the test requirement should not an obstacle at all.

There are ZERO "special schools and programs" in west Bethesda and only 1 in general Bethesda. The chevy chase CES for 4th and 5th grade. Other than that zero language immersion special programs, zero science special programs, zero liberal arts special programs, zero LD special programs, zero engineering special programs, zero MS magnet schools, zero HS magnet schools.

Any special schools and programs would require lengthy commutes in rush hour or relocating.

County does not care, MCPS does not care. The mindset is the parents can take care of all of that stuff for those Bethesda kids, out side of school, with their own after-tax money.

WJ has apex program. BCC has IB. NBMS has a GT/LD program.

There is Chinese immersion at a Potomac Es, which then continues on at Hoover Ms and Churchill HS. Both Whitman and Wootton have PLTW engineering/stem programs available for interested kids. RM IB magnet is in the western part of the county.

Note also that the Chines immersion at Potomac ES is essentially a set-aside for that community. I belive it is the only language immersion school in the county that is filled entirely with local kids first, and only opened to the broader community if enough local kids choose not to participate.

That's a pretty big gimme, considering the victim complex Bethesda/Potomac folks seem to have about how they get nothing.

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Bethesda is how many zip codes big and square miles and high school pyramids?

What test in immersion or magnet or ces programs does Bethesda House? What are the feasible options for speciality programs?

I’m aware of Chevy Chase CES for 4th and 5th grade.

Where is the nearest language immersion’s eS? We are coming from oyster in dC.

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Who would drive their kid north to Potomac and then drive back south for work in WDC or VA? Is that even realistic?

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What is nbms? Where is that?

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Anonymous wrote:What is nbms? Where is that?

http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/03413.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:Bethesda is how many zip codes big and square miles and high school pyramids?

What test in immersion or magnet or ces programs does Bethesda House? What are the feasible options for speciality programs?

I’m aware of Chevy Chase CES for 4th and 5th grade.

Where is the nearest language immersion’s eS? We are coming from oyster in dC.

I believe the nearest are Rock Creek Forest (technically a Silver Spring address, but BCC feeder and closer to Bethesda than to Silver Spring) and Potomac ES, which as noted is essentially limited to Potomac ES students.

Westland Middle School in Bethesda also has a Spanish immersion track.

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and no, you can't apply to the IB program, you have to live in its catchment area. no busses, no driving a distant kid to BCC. BCC is 9-12, nothing in K-5.

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and no, you can't apply to the IB program, you have to live in its catchment area. no busses, no driving a distant kid to BCC. BCC is 9-12, nothing in K-5.

Which school in the Bethesda area has space for a special program for students zoned for other schools?

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and no, you can't apply to the IB program, you have to live in its catchment area. no busses, no driving a distant kid to BCC. BCC is 9-12, nothing in K-5.

Which school in the Bethesda area has space for a special program for students zoned for other schools?

So you agree nothing is in or around that area?

You also seem to be suggesting that the district only puts its special programs in far away places with less population density and open capacity (never might what the underlying drivers of this lack of demand is).

What does either of those have to do with serving the top third of students where they actually live?

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Anonymous wrote:nil

and no, you can't apply to the IB program, you have to live in its catchment area. no busses, no driving a distant kid to BCC. BCC is 9-12, nothing in K-5.

Which school in the Bethesda area has space for a special program for students zoned for other schools?

So you agree nothing is in or around that area?

You also seem to be suggesting that the district only puts its special programs in far away places with less population density and open capacity (never might what the underlying drivers of this lack of demand is).

What does either of those have to do with serving the top third of students where they actually live?

Programs have to be somewhere. Where would you put one, in Bethesda?

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Anonymous wrote:nil

and no, you can't apply to the IB program, you have to live in its catchment area. no busses, no driving a distant kid to BCC. BCC is 9-12, nothing in K-5.

Which school in the Bethesda area has space for a special program for students zoned for other schools?

I can't think of a high school program.
Walter Johnson has APEX for the top 10% of its students, Whitman offers Project Lead the Way but you can't apply from another high school cluster so a kid zoned for WJ who is into Engineering can't go to Whitman and the only special program offered in WJ is APEX which is mostly English and Social Studies AP type courses.

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DP.. so in your world it's ok to "cheat" for an organization that is private but not for one that is public? If an organization is publicly financed then you shouldn't study harder to give you an edge? I have never heard that studying extra at home is considered "cheating". All those kids who decide to read a bit extra at home must be cheating. Who knew. Prepping is nothing more than extra studying. If a student decides to put in that extra effort, that's not cheating. That's just someone who is willing to work harder.

In what world is trying harder considered "cheating"?

I'm Asian. My DC who went to magnet never prepped or was tutored.

I have never heard anybody referring to extra studying at home as "prepping", let alone as "cheating".

Well apparently, the a PP does because an extra "studying" after school (or yes, tutoring and using prep materials, which is extra studying) is considered cheating. If you read an extra book on a subject not assigned by the teacher, that is cheating, according to the PP. If you watch a program on that topic or visit a museum that covers that topic, that must be cheating. If you do puzzles that help you think better, that must be cheating, too.

Any kind of "extra" activity outside of school or HW that makes you use your brain that helps you do better in tests is apparently considered cheating.

Everybody should just only ever learn at school, and never outside of it so that we are all equally dumbed down.

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and no, you can't apply to the IB program, you have to live in its catchment area. no busses, no driving a distant kid to BCC. BCC is 9-12, nothing in K-5.

Which school in the Bethesda area has space for a special program for students zoned for other schools?

So you agree nothing is in or around that area?

You also seem to be suggesting that the district only puts its special programs in far away places with less population density and open capacity (never might what the underlying drivers of this lack of demand is).

What does either of those have to do with serving the top third of students where they actually live?

Programs have to be somewhere. Where would you put one, in Bethesda?

I would put them by critical masses of qualified students. Just like a real-world business would. Serve the customers not something else like gentrifying XYZ area miles away or bolstering test scores of poorly performing areas.