What are the differences between the JLKMs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the near future, Jefferson Academy, Elliott/Hine, and Stuart Hobson middle schools will become stellar schools and will be competitive with strong reputations. That will lure some students from Deal. Jefferson used to have a stellar math-science program. All these schools are in walking distance from Metro Stations. And it’s OK to have minority children in abundance. Their families want successful schools and children too.



Growing up I can remember when Jefferson Junior High and Hines Junior High used to be the #1 Top middle schools to get in and Deal Junior High at the time was good but not as great as the other 2 schools. The only way to enter or get excepted was if your GPA was a 3.0 or better.

When was this? Jus asking our of curiosity. It was my understanding that Deal has been the most coveted MS for over 40 years (hence, why Carter sent his kid there in the 70s). I think the WH would have have technically been zoned for Hine...

Carter sent his kid to Hardy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tier I Schools (Very involved PTA, Extremely High Fundraising, Motivated Students, High PARCC Test Scores)
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Janney Elementary School
Lafayette Elementary School
Brent Elementary School
Murch Elementary School
Mann Elementary School
Key Elementary School
Hearst Elementary School
Ross Elementary School
Eaton Elementary School
Stoddert Elementary School

Tier II Schools (Very Involved PTA, High Fundraising, Motivated Students, Decent PARCC Test Scores)
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Capitol Hill Montessori School
Hyde ? Addison Elementary School
Van Ness Elementary School * (No Test Scores yet)
Maury Elementary School
Oyster ? Adams Bilingual School
Shepherd Elementary School
Watkins Elementary School
Peabody Elementary School * (No Test Scores)
Ludlow -Taylor Elementary School

No SWS? Higher performer on PARCC and fundraising $s than a number of your "Tier I" list

True that. Also whiter than any school outside upper NW ... how did that happen?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the near future, Jefferson Academy, Elliott/Hine, and Stuart Hobson middle schools will become stellar schools and will be competitive with strong reputations. That will lure some students from Deal. Jefferson used to have a stellar math-science program. All these schools are in walking distance from Metro Stations. And it’s OK to have minority children in abundance. Their families want successful schools and children too.



Growing up I can remember when Jefferson Junior High and Hines Junior High used to be the #1 Top middle schools to get in and Deal Junior High at the time was good but not as great as the other 2 schools. The only way to enter or get excepted was if your GPA was a 3.0 or better.

When was this? Jus asking our of curiosity. It was my understanding that Deal has been the most coveted MS for over 40 years (hence, why Carter sent his kid there in the 70s). I think the WH would have have technically been zoned for Hine...

Carter sent his kid to Hardy.

And the White House was in fact zoned for Stevens ES and Hardy MS, not Hine. Now it's zoned for Francis-Stevens and Cardozo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the near future, Jefferson Academy, Elliott/Hine, and Stuart Hobson middle schools will become stellar schools and will be competitive with strong reputations. That will lure some students from Deal. Jefferson used to have a stellar math-science program. All these schools are in walking distance from Metro Stations. And it’s OK to have minority children in abundance. Their families want successful schools and children too.



Growing up I can remember when Jefferson Junior High and Hines Junior High used to be the #1 Top middle schools to get in and Deal Junior High at the time was good but not as great as the other 2 schools. The only way to enter or get excepted was if your GPA was a 3.0 or better.

When was this? Jus asking our of curiosity. It was my understanding that Deal has been the most coveted MS for over 40 years (hence, why Carter sent his kid there in the 70s). I think the WH would have have technically been zoned for Hine...

Carter sent his kid to Hardy.

And the White House was in fact zoned for Stevens ES and Hardy MS, not Hine. Now it's zoned for Francis-Stevens and Cardozo.

Carter was the kind of guy that not only would he send his kid to public, he wouldn't pull strings to get OOB placement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tier I Schools (Very involved PTA, Extremely High Fundraising, Motivated Students, High PARCC Test Scores)
===================================================================
Janney Elementary School
Lafayette Elementary School
Brent Elementary School
Murch Elementary School
Mann Elementary School
Key Elementary School
Hearst Elementary School
Ross Elementary School
Eaton Elementary School
Stoddert Elementary School

Tier II Schools (Very Involved PTA, High Fundraising, Motivated Students, Decent PARCC Test Scores)
===============================================================
Capitol Hill Montessori School
Hyde ? Addison Elementary School
Van Ness Elementary School * (No Test Scores yet)
Maury Elementary School
Oyster ? Adams Bilingual School
Shepherd Elementary School
Watkins Elementary School
Peabody Elementary School * (No Test Scores)
Ludlow -Taylor Elementary School

No SWS? Higher performer on PARCC and fundraising $s than a number of your "Tier I" list

If the poster who compiled the list used the Empower PARCC dashboard, SWS doesn't show up for some reason so they may not have realized the relatively high PARCC scores (given it's demographics, I'd expect the scores to be higher).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the near future, Jefferson Academy, Elliott/Hine, and Stuart Hobson middle schools will become stellar schools and will be competitive with strong reputations. That will lure some students from Deal. Jefferson used to have a stellar math-science program. All these schools are in walking distance from Metro Stations. And it’s OK to have minority children in abundance. Their families want successful schools and children too.



Growing up I can remember when Jefferson Junior High and Hines Junior High used to be the #1 Top middle schools to get in and Deal Junior High at the time was good but not as great as the other 2 schools. The only way to enter or get excepted was if your GPA was a 3.0 or better.

When was this? Jus asking our of curiosity. It was my understanding that Deal has been the most coveted MS for over 40 years (hence, why Carter sent his kid there in the 70s). I think the WH would have have technically been zoned for Hine...

Carter sent his kid to Hardy.

And the White House was in fact zoned for Stevens ES and Hardy MS, not Hine. Now it's zoned for Francis-Stevens and Cardozo.

Carter was the kind of guy that not only would he send his kid to public, he wouldn't pull strings to get OOB placement.

unlike the glorified grifter bureaucrats who leech off the District government

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Eaton has the strongest PARCC results for students of color. Although note that the data set includes multiple schools that didn’t have enough students of color to be statistically significant.

Sorry, but Eaton is still pretty second-highest tier compared to JKLM. It baffling that it still can't even draw a majority of its enrollment from the local neighborhood, which shows that it needs more improvement before it gets real traction locally. For now, Eaton's really an EOTP school that happens to be WOTP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'd say there's not a lot of difference at the top level of the tier. Janney and Mann are quite similar, although Mann unfortunately feeds to Hardy while Janney is in Deal. Lafayette is very strong. Murch is strong, but it's not exactly in the top drawer with Janney and Mann.

Um, what makes Mann so much better than Murch? They're within 3-5 percentage points on the PARCC. And Murch is about to open an amazing new modernized facility.

Which DCPS built too large for the IB population, thus guaranteeing that Murch will be partly OOB forever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:JKLMs aren't really a thing anymore. Lots of elementary schools in DC are great now.

Dream on. Sorry that you can't afford to buy in AU Park. But you can pretend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'd say there's not a lot of difference at the top level of the tier. Janney and Mann are quite similar, although Mann unfortunately feeds to Hardy while Janney is in Deal. Lafayette is very strong. Murch is strong, but it's not exactly in the top drawer with Janney and Mann.

Why do people (or a person) have to keep repeating this - there is nothing unfortunate about being fed to Hardy. Given some of the downsides of larger schools some might actually prefer Hardy which is not even half as large as Deal.

I laugh when people boost Hardy, knowing that if they had the choice of Deal vs. Hardy, they would choose Deal 98 out of 100 times.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Also recommend looking beyond the outdated (if it ever had any merit!) JKLM world. Hearst, Ross and Eaton (renovation to get through there, though) are great, too. You do have to consider the middle and high school path but Hardy is a good option.

- Murch parent[/quote]

but as a Murch parent, your kid will still go to Deal. So enjoy the soapbox.

[Anonymous]

'J' is the first letter in JKLM not just for alphabetical reasons.

--Proud Jaguar parent

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:JKLMs aren't really a thing anymore. Lots of elementary schools in DC are great now.

Dream on. Sorry that you can't afford to buy in AU Park. But you can pretend.

not everyone wants to live in AU Park

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'd say there's not a lot of difference at the top level of the tier. Janney and Mann are quite similar, although Mann unfortunately feeds to Hardy while Janney is in Deal. Lafayette is very strong. Murch is strong, but it's not exactly in the top drawer with Janney and Mann.

Why do people (or a person) have to keep repeating this - there is nothing unfortunate about being fed to Hardy. Given some of the downsides of larger schools some might actually prefer Hardy which is not even half as large as Deal.

I laugh when people boost Hardy, knowing that if they had the choice of Deal vs. Hardy, they would choose Deal 98 out of 100 times.

And the 2 are just stupid

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Tier I Schools (Very involved PTA, Extremely High Fundraising, Motivated Students, High PARCC Test Scores)
===================================================================
Janney Elementary School
Lafayette Elementary School
Brent Elementary School
Murch Elementary School
Mann Elementary School
Key Elementary School
Hearst Elementary School
Ross Elementary School
Eaton Elementary School
Stoddert Elementary School

Tier II Schools (Very Involved PTA, High Fundraising, Motivated Students, Decent PARCC Test Scores)
===============================================================
Capitol Hill Montessori School
Hyde ? Addison Elementary School
Van Ness Elementary School * (No Test Scores yet)
Maury Elementary School
Oyster ? Adams Bilingual School
Shepherd Elementary School
Watkins Elementary School
Peabody Elementary School * (No Test Scores)
Ludlow -Taylor Elementary School

No SWS? Higher performer on PARCC and fundraising $s than a number of your "Tier I" list

True that. Also whiter than any school outside upper NW ... how did that happen?

Capitol Hill is really white and used to get preference at SWS before DCPS took it away from us because we are not allowed to have nice things.