Child seems so tired of school & the admissions process...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When I was a kid, junior year was the killer year and senior year was almost like a year off. You could ease up on your schedule and enjoy that last year - senior trip, senior skip day, prom. We all had senior slump but who cared?

Now kids have a boatload of AP exams to prepare for senior year. Senior year is the culmination of rigor across the board in all academic subjects. Their minds drift.....Senioritis is for real.

But if your new college doesn't accept your AP, then most seniors don't bother even taking the test - or at least study too hard for it.

AP's are such a money making scam

You've gone a semester or an entire year in a class. Might as well take the AP exam...

You would be surprised how many don't. Why bother? You aren't getting college credit for it and are already in the school.

I think that depends on the college. My DC started college with 17 credits from AP exams. Makes a huge difference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Or the middle ground of forget studying, take the tests and see how it goes. DC did well enough that it waived some general required classes e.g. language that there were no plans to pursue further, freeing up schedule room.

Exactly. This was our DC's experience too. Getting qualifying scores on the AP exams clears out a lot of Gen Ed required courses.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Or the middle ground of forget studying, take the tests and see how it goes. DC did well enough that it waived some general required classes e.g. language that there were no plans to pursue further, freeing up schedule room.

Exactly. This was our DC's experience too. Getting qualifying scores on the AP exams clears out a lot of Gen Ed required courses.

Most elite schools don’t have basic courses but one or two and you need a 4 or 5. Math you can test out even without AP’s.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or the middle ground of forget studying, take the tests and see how it goes. DC did well enough that it waived some general required classes e.g. language that there were no plans to pursue further, freeing up schedule room.

Exactly. This was our DC's experience too. Getting qualifying scores on the AP exams clears out a lot of Gen Ed required courses.

Most elite schools don’t have basic courses but one or two and you need a 4 or 5. Math you can test out even without AP’s.

And if you didn’t get a 5, you should take class over anyway.

[Anonymous]

A lot of schools, including my DCs require the kids to take the AP exam or they don't receive AP on their transcripts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or the middle ground of forget studying, take the tests and see how it goes. DC did well enough that it waived some general required classes e.g. language that there were no plans to pursue further, freeing up schedule room.

Exactly. This was our DC's experience too. Getting qualifying scores on the AP exams clears out a lot of Gen Ed required courses.

Most elite schools don’t have basic courses but one or two and you need a 4 or 5. Math you can test out even without AP’s.

Oh please. Most schools, whether "elite" or not, have some basic Gen Ed required courses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A lot of schools, including my DCs require the kids to take the AP exam or they don't receive AP on their transcripts.

I totally agree with this. If you want the GPA bump for the course, you should have to take the test. I actually think the test score should be your final exam and count in your grade but that’s another thread.

If students don’t take the test it is very hard for the teacher to know if their teaching was effective.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or the middle ground of forget studying, take the tests and see how it goes. DC did well enough that it waived some general required classes e.g. language that there were no plans to pursue further, freeing up schedule room.

Exactly. This was our DC's experience too. Getting qualifying scores on the AP exams clears out a lot of Gen Ed required courses.

Most elite schools don’t have basic courses but one or two and you need a 4 or 5. Math you can test out even without AP’s.

Of course they have basic courses:
https://generaleducation.fas.harvard.edu/current_requirements
https://oue.fas.harvard.edu/apexams
https://www.albert.io/blog/yale-advanced-placement-ap-credits/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of schools, including my DCs require the kids to take the AP exam or they don't receive AP on their transcripts.

I totally agree with this. If you want the GPA bump for the course, you should have to take the test. I actually think the test score should be your final exam and count in your grade but that’s another thread.

If students don’t take the test it is very hard for the teacher to know if their teaching was effective.

+100, especially for the bolded.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or the middle ground of forget studying, take the tests and see how it goes. DC did well enough that it waived some general required classes e.g. language that there were no plans to pursue further, freeing up schedule room.

Exactly. This was our DC's experience too. Getting qualifying scores on the AP exams clears out a lot of Gen Ed required courses.

Most elite schools don’t have basic courses but one or two and you need a 4 or 5. Math you can test out even without AP’s.

Of course they have basic courses:
https://generaleducation.fas.harvard.edu/current_requirements
https://oue.fas.harvard.edu/apexams
https://www.albert.io/blog/yale-advanced-placement-ap-credits/

Interesting...Harvard is doing away with credit for HS courses (AP/IB) starting in 2020.

https://oue.fas.harvard.edu/advanced-standing

"current Advanced Standing program will change beginning in Fall 2020. Admitted students who enter the College as freshmen in Fall 2020 (the Class of 2024), and all subsequent classes, will not be eligible to receive Harvard College degree credit for pre-matriculation credentials earned in secondary school."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of schools, including my DCs require the kids to take the AP exam or they don't receive AP on their transcripts.

I totally agree with this. If you want the GPA bump for the course, you should have to take the test. I actually think the test score should be your final exam and count in your grade but that’s another thread.

If students don’t take the test it is very hard for the teacher to know if their teaching was effective.

+100, especially for the bolded.

How does this work for kids who applied and were admitted to colleges based, in part, on the rigor of their senior year schedule? If they don't take the AP exam and their courses are dropped down to regular courses can the colleges revoke their offer of admission?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or the middle ground of forget studying, take the tests and see how it goes. DC did well enough that it waived some general required classes e.g. language that there were no plans to pursue further, freeing up schedule room.

Exactly. This was our DC's experience too. Getting qualifying scores on the AP exams clears out a lot of Gen Ed required courses.

Most elite schools don’t have basic courses but one or two and you need a 4 or 5. Math you can test out even without AP’s.

Oh please. Most schools, whether "elite" or not, have some basic Gen Ed required courses.

Not ones you can bypass. Not at all. Most colleges are starting to realize how unprepared these kids really are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of schools, including my DCs require the kids to take the AP exam or they don't receive AP on their transcripts.

I totally agree with this. If you want the GPA bump for the course, you should have to take the test. I actually think the test score should be your final exam and count in your grade but that’s another thread.

If students don’t take the test it is very hard for the teacher to know if their teaching was effective.

+100, especially for the bolded.

How does this work for kids who applied and were admitted to colleges based, in part, on the rigor of their senior year schedule? If they don't take the AP exam and their courses are dropped down to regular courses can the colleges revoke their offer of admission?

Nope. In public school it still counts for a complete 1.0 extra weight regardless of whether they take the exam or not. And for some reason our AP exam grade isn’t part of the school grade. So kids look rigorous. Get the weighted GPA and don’t bother with the test senior year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or the middle ground of forget studying, take the tests and see how it goes. DC did well enough that it waived some general required classes e.g. language that there were no plans to pursue further, freeing up schedule room.

Exactly. This was our DC's experience too. Getting qualifying scores on the AP exams clears out a lot of Gen Ed required courses.

Most elite schools don’t have basic courses but one or two and you need a 4 or 5. Math you can test out even without AP’s.

Of course they have basic courses:
https://generaleducation.fas.harvard.edu/current_requirements
https://oue.fas.harvard.edu/apexams
https://www.albert.io/blog/yale-advanced-placement-ap-credits/

Interesting...Harvard is doing away with credit for HS courses (AP/IB) starting in 2020.

https://oue.fas.harvard.edu/advanced-standing

"current Advanced Standing program will change beginning in Fall 2020. Admitted students who enter the College as freshmen in Fall 2020 (the Class of 2024), and all subsequent classes, will not be eligible to receive Harvard College degree credit for pre-matriculation credentials earned in secondary school."

Other schools will soon follow...

I am glad they aren’t taking IB courses either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of schools, including my DCs require the kids to take the AP exam or they don't receive AP on their transcripts.

I totally agree with this. If you want the GPA bump for the course, you should have to take the test. I actually think the test score should be your final exam and count in your grade but that’s another thread.

If students don’t take the test it is very hard for the teacher to know if their teaching was effective.

+100, especially for the bolded.

How does this work for kids who applied and were admitted to colleges based, in part, on the rigor of their senior year schedule? If they don't take the AP exam and their courses are dropped down to regular courses can the colleges revoke their offer of admission?

Nope. In public school it still counts for a complete 1.0 extra weight regardless of whether they take the exam or not. And for some reason our AP exam grade isn’t part of the school grade. So kids look rigorous. Get the weighted GPA and don’t bother with the test senior year.

I guess that's an approach for getting yourself admitted into a college....but that freshman year is sure going to be a bit of a doozy for them.