4th comprehensive Arlington high school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:if you are *just* outside of the proposed walk zone for the possible hs at the career center, is it likely you could still be redirected to it?
I’m really only supportive of a high school at the career center, if my house gets drawn to it. It would be really bad for my property values to be stuck at Wakefield. I was fine with Wakefield before, but it’s clear it’s going to really take a dive if the career center cite is used.
Will we know one way or the other beforehand?

Will we know before what? Before a decision is made whether the high school will be neighborhood v. choice? No. they will not do boundaries until a year before the school is to open.

And if you're concerned about Wakefield tanking, then join the fight for socioeconomic diversity across our schools and get a large group of people to advocate loudly and strongly with you to ensure the SB makes economic diversity a factor in boundaries. Of course, if you're only concerned about your property values, don't bother.

But the way APS does boundaries, yes, you're likely to be redistricted to the career center site if you are just outside the proposed walk zone.....unless you are also very close to another high school boundary, then there's a slight chance you won't be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:if you are *just* outside of the proposed walk zone for the possible hs at the career center, is it likely you could still be redirected to it?
I’m really only supportive of a high school at the career center, if my house gets drawn to it. It would be really bad for my property values to be stuck at Wakefield. I was fine with Wakefield before, but it’s clear it’s going to really take a dive if the career center cite is used.
Will we know one way or the other beforehand?

Will we know before what? Before a decision is made whether the high school will be neighborhood v. choice? No. they will not do boundaries until a year before the school is to open.

And if you're concerned about Wakefield tanking, then join the fight for socioeconomic diversity across our schools and get a large group of people to advocate loudly and strongly with you to ensure the SB makes economic diversity a factor in boundaries. Of course, if you're only concerned about your property values, don't bother.

But the way APS does boundaries, yes, you're likely to be redistricted to the career center site if you are just outside the proposed walk zone.....unless you are also very close to another high school boundary, then there's a slight chance you won't be.

There is no fight for socioeconomic diversity. When presented with the possibility to do that right thing for better integrated schools, the SB chose differently. More than once they’ve done that. I have no interest in banging my head again a wall. I just want a better school.
Ps- if I was looking to buy a home in south Arlington, I would really think twice about how close that home is to the career center.
It’s one thing to be ok with Wakefield as it is now, but consider how it might be after a 4th high school opens on the east side of the Pike.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:if you are *just* outside of the proposed walk zone for the possible hs at the career center, is it likely you could still be redirected to it?
I’m really only supportive of a high school at the career center, if my house gets drawn to it. It would be really bad for my property values to be stuck at Wakefield. I was fine with Wakefield before, but it’s clear it’s going to really take a dive if the career center cite is used.
Will we know one way or the other beforehand?

Will we know before what? Before a decision is made whether the high school will be neighborhood v. choice? No. they will not do boundaries until a year before the school is to open.

And if you're concerned about Wakefield tanking, then join the fight for socioeconomic diversity across our schools and get a large group of people to advocate loudly and strongly with you to ensure the SB makes economic diversity a factor in boundaries. Of course, if you're only concerned about your property values, don't bother.

But the way APS does boundaries, yes, you're likely to be redistricted to the career center site if you are just outside the proposed walk zone.....unless you are also very close to another high school boundary, then there's a slight chance you won't be.

There is no fight for socioeconomic diversity. When presented with the possibility to do that right thing for better integrated schools, the SB chose differently. More than once they’ve done that. I have no interest in banging my head again a wall. I just want a better school.
Ps- if I was looking to buy a home in south Arlington, I would really think twice about how close that home is to the career center.
It’s one thing to be ok with Wakefield as it is now, but consider how it might be after a 4th high school opens on the east side of the Pike.

There's some truth in that. My sense is that most of the SB would prefer that SA neighborhood schools primarily serve the disadvantaged, immigrant students. For those students, Randolph or Barcroft or Kenmore or Wakefield is Harvard Law compared to where their parents went to school. So that's why "all schools are good schools". And it makes it easier to deliver social services. Creating integrated schools is a different kind of good, a politically harder one that is backed really only by professionals in SA with kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:if you are *just* outside of the proposed walk zone for the possible hs at the career center, is it likely you could still be redirected to it?
I’m really only supportive of a high school at the career center, if my house gets drawn to it. It would be really bad for my property values to be stuck at Wakefield. I was fine with Wakefield before, but it’s clear it’s going to really take a dive if the career center cite is used.
Will we know one way or the other beforehand?

Will we know before what? Before a decision is made whether the high school will be neighborhood v. choice? No. they will not do boundaries until a year before the school is to open.

And if you're concerned about Wakefield tanking, then join the fight for socioeconomic diversity across our schools and get a large group of people to advocate loudly and strongly with you to ensure the SB makes economic diversity a factor in boundaries. Of course, if you're only concerned about your property values, don't bother.

But the way APS does boundaries, yes, you're likely to be redistricted to the career center site if you are just outside the proposed walk zone.....unless you are also very close to another high school boundary, then there's a slight chance you won't be.

There is no fight for socioeconomic diversity. When presented with the possibility to do that right thing for better integrated schools, the SB chose differently. More than once they’ve done that. I have no interest in banging my head again a wall. I just want a better school.
Ps- if I was looking to buy a home in south Arlington, I would really think twice about how close that home is to the career center.
It’s one thing to be ok with Wakefield as it is now, but consider how it might be after a 4th high school opens on the east side of the Pike.

There's some truth in that. My sense is that most of the SB would prefer that SA neighborhood schools primarily serve the disadvantaged, immigrant students. For those students, Randolph or Barcroft or Kenmore or Wakefield is Harvard Law compared to where their parents went to school. So that's why "all schools are good schools". And it makes it easier to deliver social services. Creating integrated schools is a different kind of good, a politically harder one that is backed really only by professionals in SA with kids.

And it's an injustice that opinions of professionals are only supported if they are NA professionals. It's also not so easy to determine the various minority and low income groups' true thoughts, especially when they are not presented with unbiased information but only slanted questions like "do you want your community torn apart or do you want to stay at your current school?"

[Anonymous]

Not enough SA middle class professionals. And they are not vocal enough. It's not about fair. It's about being loud and visible. If SA parents want to be heard they have to organize and be prepared for the liberal activist VOICE nuts' blowback.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not enough SA middle class professionals. And they are not vocal enough. It's not about fair. It's about being loud and visible. If SA parents want to be heard they have to organize and be prepared for the liberal activist VOICE nuts' blowback.

Actually, there are plenty of SA middle class professionals. The problem is that many of them are part of VOICE. And many who aren't, don't need to make a fuss because they have their house and "diverse neighborhood" and their choice public school program so they don't have to admit to the realities their indifference create.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:if you are *just* outside of the proposed walk zone for the possible hs at the career center, is it likely you could still be redirected to it?
I’m really only supportive of a high school at the career center, if my house gets drawn to it. It would be really bad for my property values to be stuck at Wakefield. I was fine with Wakefield before, but it’s clear it’s going to really take a dive if the career center cite is used.
Will we know one way or the other beforehand?

Will we know before what? Before a decision is made whether the high school will be neighborhood v. choice? No. they will not do boundaries until a year before the school is to open.

And if you're concerned about Wakefield tanking, then join the fight for socioeconomic diversity across our schools and get a large group of people to advocate loudly and strongly with you to ensure the SB makes economic diversity a factor in boundaries. Of course, if you're only concerned about your property values, don't bother.

But the way APS does boundaries, yes, you're likely to be redistricted to the career center site if you are just outside the proposed walk zone.....unless you are also very close to another high school boundary, then there's a slight chance you won't be.

There is no fight for socioeconomic diversity. When presented with the possibility to do that right thing for better integrated schools, the SB chose differently. More than once they’ve done that. I have no interest in banging my head again a wall. I just want a better school.
Ps- if I was looking to buy a home in south Arlington, I would really think twice about how close that home is to the career center.
It’s one thing to be ok with Wakefield as it is now, but consider how it might be after a 4th high school opens on the east side of the Pike.

There's some truth in that. My sense is that most of the SB would prefer that SA neighborhood schools primarily serve the disadvantaged, immigrant students. For those students, Randolph or Barcroft or Kenmore or Wakefield is Harvard Law compared to where their parents went to school. So that's why "all schools are good schools". And it makes it easier to deliver social services. Creating integrated schools is a different kind of good, a politically harder one that is backed really only by professionals in SA with kids.

Then the SB should just admit that and make certain schools just for low-income ELL students and provide nearby guaranteed default schools for all the non FRL-eligible families.

[Anonymous]

Nothing they can do will avoid extreme overcrowding. Classic example of too little, too late.

Get out while you can.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:if you are *just* outside of the proposed walk zone for the possible hs at the career center, is it likely you could still be redirected to it?
I’m really only supportive of a high school at the career center, if my house gets drawn to it. It would be really bad for my property values to be stuck at Wakefield. I was fine with Wakefield before, but it’s clear it’s going to really take a dive if the career center cite is used.
Will we know one way or the other beforehand?

Will we know before what? Before a decision is made whether the high school will be neighborhood v. choice? No. they will not do boundaries until a year before the school is to open.

And if you're concerned about Wakefield tanking, then join the fight for socioeconomic diversity across our schools and get a large group of people to advocate loudly and strongly with you to ensure the SB makes economic diversity a factor in boundaries. Of course, if you're only concerned about your property values, don't bother.

But the way APS does boundaries, yes, you're likely to be redistricted to the career center site if you are just outside the proposed walk zone.....unless you are also very close to another high school boundary, then there's a slight chance you won't be.

There is no fight for socioeconomic diversity. When presented with the possibility to do that right thing for better integrated schools, the SB chose differently. More than once they’ve done that. I have no interest in banging my head again a wall. I just want a better school.
Ps- if I was looking to buy a home in south Arlington, I would really think twice about how close that home is to the career center.
It’s one thing to be ok with Wakefield as it is now, but consider how it might be after a 4th high school opens on the east side of the Pike.

There's some truth in that. My sense is that most of the SB would prefer that SA neighborhood schools primarily serve the disadvantaged, immigrant students. For those students, Randolph or Barcroft or Kenmore or Wakefield is Harvard Law compared to where their parents went to school. So that's why "all schools are good schools". And it makes it easier to deliver social services. Creating integrated schools is a different kind of good, a politically harder one that is backed really only by professionals in SA with kids.

Then the SB should just admit that and make certain schools just for low-income ELL students and provide nearby guaranteed default schools for all the non FRL-eligible families.

I can't imagine that'd be legal. Anyway, that's essentially what option schools do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not enough SA middle class professionals. And they are not vocal enough. It's not about fair. It's about being loud and visible. If SA parents want to be heard they have to organize and be prepared for the liberal activist VOICE nuts' blowback.

Actually, there are plenty of SA middle class professionals. The problem is that many of them are part of VOICE. And many who aren't, don't need to make a fuss because they have their house and "diverse neighborhood" and their choice public school program so they don't have to admit to the realities their indifference create.

Well, yeah, that's the bargain, that's the politics. Option schools are basically a way to get SA professionals quiet about school segregation. Prob is, now there is more demand than supply for option schools. There is this fantasy that these students who don't get an option seat will somehow be "forced" to attend a segregated school that doesn't track students on ability. Nope, they'll move.

[Anonymous]

so many wealthy white live right, vote left poseurs in n Arlington.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:so many wealthy white live right, vote left poseurs in n Arlington.

I think transient young professionals who rent and don’t follow local issues are part of the problem. They go to the polls and vote straight D on the ballot not matter what.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:so many wealthy white live right, vote left poseurs in n Arlington.

I think transient young professionals who rent and don’t follow local issues are part of the problem. They go to the polls and vote straight D on the ballot not matter what.

That’s a good point. I’ve lived in Arlington since right after I graduated from college and in my 20s definitely didn’t think or care about the actual impact of these issues. Affordable housing? Sure, why not!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:so many wealthy white live right, vote left poseurs in n Arlington.

I think transient young professionals who rent and don’t follow local issues are part of the problem. They go to the polls and vote straight D on the ballot not matter what.

That’s a good point. I’ve lived in Arlington since right after I graduated from college and in my 20s definitely didn’t think or care about the actual impact of these issues. Affordable housing? Sure, why not!

Me too....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:if you are *just* outside of the proposed walk zone for the possible hs at the career center, is it likely you could still be redirected to it?
I’m really only supportive of a high school at the career center, if my house gets drawn to it. It would be really bad for my property values to be stuck at Wakefield. I was fine with Wakefield before, but it’s clear it’s going to really take a dive if the career center cite is used.
Will we know one way or the other beforehand?

Will we know before what? Before a decision is made whether the high school will be neighborhood v. choice? No. they will not do boundaries until a year before the school is to open.

And if you're concerned about Wakefield tanking, then join the fight for socioeconomic diversity across our schools and get a large group of people to advocate loudly and strongly with you to ensure the SB makes economic diversity a factor in boundaries. Of course, if you're only concerned about your property values, don't bother.

But the way APS does boundaries, yes, you're likely to be redistricted to the career center site if you are just outside the proposed walk zone.....unless you are also very close to another high school boundary, then there's a slight chance you won't be.

There is no fight for socioeconomic diversity. When presented with the possibility to do that right thing for better integrated schools, the SB chose differently. More than once they’ve done that. I have no interest in banging my head again a wall. I just want a better school.
Ps- if I was looking to buy a home in south Arlington, I would really think twice about how close that home is to the career center.
It’s one thing to be ok with Wakefield as it is now, but consider how it might be after a 4th high school opens on the east side of the Pike.

There's some truth in that. My sense is that most of the SB would prefer that SA neighborhood schools primarily serve the disadvantaged, immigrant students. For those students, Randolph or Barcroft or Kenmore or Wakefield is Harvard Law compared to where their parents went to school. So that's why "all schools are good schools". And it makes it easier to deliver social services. Creating integrated schools is a different kind of good, a politically harder one that is backed really only by professionals in SA with kids.

Then the SB should just admit that and make certain schools just for low-income ELL students and provide nearby guaranteed default schools for all the non FRL-eligible families.

I can't imagine that'd be legal. Anyway, that's essentially what option schools do.

Except option schools are not a guarantee. Not everyone can get in. And not everyone is a fit for the program. That's not the same as providing a regular neighborhood school program like everyone else can get.