Should diversity be a factor in Olympic team selection?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Funny you mention that. My kids had swimming lessons with their elementary school in Canada. Every week first period was at the rec center with the pool. It didn't cost any extra.

I can guarantee that your kids didn't get any BS advantage in the race just because of their skin color.

Did they?

Of course not, they're Canadian. It's white American children who raced in white-only government-funded pools and got every advantage.

The United States has a long, disgraceful, but not surprising history of segregated swimming pools. Robert Moses spent tens of millions of federal dollars to construct pools in white neighborhoods in New York City. Washington, D.C. operated white-only swimming pools near the Washington Monument. Desegregation did little to remedy the problem. In 1957, Marshall, Texas sold its pool to the Lions' Club to avoid integration. Once in the hands of private owners, the pool continued to ban blacks for years. In 1959, Montgomery, Alabama closed its public pools for ten years rather than integrate. In 1971, the city council of Palmer, Mississippi argued before the U.S. Supreme Court that it could not integrate its pools for economic and safety reasons. The Supreme Court upheld the city's decision to close the pools rather than allow blacks to swim in them. That's right: If you were born in 1970 -- you're not even 50! -- the Supreme Court affirmed the decision to close a government facility rather than allow access to blacks as constitutional in your lifetime. Read it for yourselves, disbelievers: Palmer v. Thompson, 403 U.S. 217 (1971).

Every white American claims to respect Martin Luther King, Jr. Well, here's a story about the man you pretend to revere but know practically nothing: On June 11, 1964, MLK was arrested for eating at the segregated restaurant at the Monson Motor Lodge in St. Augustine, Florida. The motel had a pool, and MLK and his associates thought, "Hey, we were so well received on our first visit! Let's go back and take a dip in their pool!" On June 18, 1964, a group of black protesters did exactly that. The motel manager responded by pouring acid on them. Yeah, that happened. In defense of the Monson Motor Lodge manager, it was cleaning acid. But pouring cleaning acid in swimming pools after blacks used them was standard operating procedure in the 1960s and 1970s. Read all about it: https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/motel-manager-pouring-acid-water-black-people-swam-pool-1964/

In those locales where public segregation could not maintained, white Americans did what white Americans do -- They fled. Millions of white homeowners abandoned public pools and built ones in their backyards, and millions more joined private clubs where those pesky black people wouldn't bother them. Despite having paid the fee to use the pool, black swimmers were told to leave the Valley Swim Club in Huntington Valley, Pennsylvania, because their very presence scared white children. The club publicly defended its stance, citing fears that too many blacks would "change the complexion" of the club. That was in 2009. Yay, America!

So, please, tell us more about this BS advantage black people have received in races because of their skin color. And, while you're at it, can you explain to us why this thread is now four pages deep, and not a single person has objected to the biggest demonstration of affirmative action in athletics -- women's sports. Honestly, if merit is paramount and to be upheld to the exclusion of anything else, white women in this thread have a lot of explaining to do. To complain about some mythical BS advantage in athletics that blacks never received but remain silent about the protection from stronger, faster male athletes than women receive is pretty damn brazen.

In other words, U.S. Olympic teams must have quotas.

[Anonymous]

Selection? No. Strongest and fastest gets to go.

But I don't think we can deny that the people who are at the top and who are selected have all had equal opportunities to get there. I have 2 friends who went to the Olympics and 6 who almost made it. The amount of money and parental involvement needed to get there is insane. So yeah, a large percentage of those kids are coming from UMC - UC, white, well educated families.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Funny you mention that. My kids had swimming lessons with their elementary school in Canada. Every week first period was at the rec center with the pool. It didn't cost any extra.

I can guarantee that your kids didn't get any BS advantage in the race just because of their skin color.

Did they?

Of course not, they're Canadian. It's white American children who raced in white-only government-funded pools and got every advantage.

The United States has a long, disgraceful, but not surprising history of segregated swimming pools. Robert Moses spent tens of millions of federal dollars to construct pools in white neighborhoods in New York City. Washington, D.C. operated white-only swimming pools near the Washington Monument. Desegregation did little to remedy the problem. In 1957, Marshall, Texas sold its pool to the Lions' Club to avoid integration. Once in the hands of private owners, the pool continued to ban blacks for years. In 1959, Montgomery, Alabama closed its public pools for ten years rather than integrate. In 1971, the city council of Palmer, Mississippi argued before the U.S. Supreme Court that it could not integrate its pools for economic and safety reasons. The Supreme Court upheld the city's decision to close the pools rather than allow blacks to swim in them. That's right: If you were born in 1970 -- you're not even 50! -- the Supreme Court affirmed the decision to close a government facility rather than allow access to blacks as constitutional in your lifetime. Read it for yourselves, disbelievers: Palmer v. Thompson, 403 U.S. 217 (1971).

Every white American claims to respect Martin Luther King, Jr. Well, here's a story about the man you pretend to revere but know practically nothing: On June 11, 1964, MLK was arrested for eating at the segregated restaurant at the Monson Motor Lodge in St. Augustine, Florida. The motel had a pool, and MLK and his associates thought, "Hey, we were so well received on our first visit! Let's go back and take a dip in their pool!" On June 18, 1964, a group of black protesters did exactly that. The motel manager responded by pouring acid on them. Yeah, that happened. In defense of the Monson Motor Lodge manager, it was cleaning acid. But pouring cleaning acid in swimming pools after blacks used them was standard operating procedure in the 1960s and 1970s. Read all about it: https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/motel-manager-pouring-acid-water-black-people-swam-pool-1964/

In those locales where public segregation could not maintained, white Americans did what white Americans do -- They fled. Millions of white homeowners abandoned public pools and built ones in their backyards, and millions more joined private clubs where those pesky black people wouldn't bother them. Despite having paid the fee to use the pool, black swimmers were told to leave the Valley Swim Club in Huntington Valley, Pennsylvania, because their very presence scared white children. The club publicly defended its stance, citing fears that too many blacks would "change the complexion" of the club. That was in 2009. Yay, America!

So, please, tell us more about this BS advantage black people have received in races because of their skin color. And, while you're at it, can you explain to us why this thread is now four pages deep, and not a single person has objected to the biggest demonstration of affirmative action in athletics -- women's sports. Honestly, if merit is paramount and to be upheld to the exclusion of anything else, white women in this thread have a lot of explaining to do. To complain about some mythical BS advantage in athletics that blacks never received but remain silent about the protection from stronger, faster male athletes than women receive is pretty damn brazen.

In other words, U.S. Olympic teams must have quotas.

give it up you racist dinosaur. the US is a multicultural country! majority minority! nothing you can do about it! now YOU must be prepared to compete!

[Anonymous]

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In other words, U.S. Olympic teams must have quotas.

It's odd to me that people this stupid and lazy so often seem to feel themselves superior to others. Of course, there's no evidence that anyone has ever been selected to an Olympic team on any grounds other than merit, but that doesn't stop their desperate bleating about how they are victims. Suck it up snowflake - in a search for the best (fastest, strongest, most skilled) athletes at winter sports, selection committees found lots of non-whites and some gay people. You'll just have to live with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What do you mean "a factor"? The fact that the team, which was put together through meritocracy, happens to be more diverse is great. It's representative of the country it's supposed to represent, and shows that the pipeline has widened.

That people like Fox Vice Presidents see diverse Olympians and assume that a more qualified white man somehow got cheated out of his due is predictable BS.

So does this mean that there should be a diversity "plus factor" for Asian and Caucasian players to make the U.S. Olympic basketball team?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Funny you mention that. My kids had swimming lessons with their elementary school in Canada. Every week first period was at the rec center with the pool. It didn't cost any extra.

I can guarantee that your kids didn't get any BS advantage in the race just because of their skin color.

Did they?

Of course not, they're Canadian. It's white American children who raced in white-only government-funded pools and got every advantage.

The United States has a long, disgraceful, but not surprising history of segregated swimming pools. Robert Moses spent tens of millions of federal dollars to construct pools in white neighborhoods in New York City. Washington, D.C. operated white-only swimming pools near the Washington Monument. Desegregation did little to remedy the problem. In 1957, Marshall, Texas sold its pool to the Lions' Club to avoid integration. Once in the hands of private owners, the pool continued to ban blacks for years. In 1959, Montgomery, Alabama closed its public pools for ten years rather than integrate. In 1971, the city council of Palmer, Mississippi argued before the U.S. Supreme Court that it could not integrate its pools for economic and safety reasons. The Supreme Court upheld the city's decision to close the pools rather than allow blacks to swim in them. That's right: If you were born in 1970 -- you're not even 50! -- the Supreme Court affirmed the decision to close a government facility rather than allow access to blacks as constitutional in your lifetime. Read it for yourselves, disbelievers: Palmer v. Thompson, 403 U.S. 217 (1971).

Every white American claims to respect Martin Luther King, Jr. Well, here's a story about the man you pretend to revere but know practically nothing: On June 11, 1964, MLK was arrested for eating at the segregated restaurant at the Monson Motor Lodge in St. Augustine, Florida. The motel had a pool, and MLK and his associates thought, "Hey, we were so well received on our first visit! Let's go back and take a dip in their pool!" On June 18, 1964, a group of black protesters did exactly that. The motel manager responded by pouring acid on them. Yeah, that happened. In defense of the Monson Motor Lodge manager, it was cleaning acid. But pouring cleaning acid in swimming pools after blacks used them was standard operating procedure in the 1960s and 1970s. Read all about it: https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/motel-manager-pouring-acid-water-black-people-swam-pool-1964/

In those locales where public segregation could not maintained, white Americans did what white Americans do -- They fled. Millions of white homeowners abandoned public pools and built ones in their backyards, and millions more joined private clubs where those pesky black people wouldn't bother them. Despite having paid the fee to use the pool, black swimmers were told to leave the Valley Swim Club in Huntington Valley, Pennsylvania, because their very presence scared white children. The club publicly defended its stance, citing fears that too many blacks would "change the complexion" of the club. That was in 2009. Yay, America!

So, please, tell us more about this BS advantage black people have received in races because of their skin color. And, while you're at it, can you explain to us why this thread is now four pages deep, and not a single person has objected to the biggest demonstration of affirmative action in athletics -- women's sports. Honestly, if merit is paramount and to be upheld to the exclusion of anything else, white women in this thread have a lot of explaining to do. To complain about some mythical BS advantage in athletics that blacks never received but remain silent about the protection from stronger, faster male athletes than women receive is pretty damn brazen.

In other words, U.S. Olympic teams must have quotas.

give it up you racist dinosaur. the US is a multicultural country! majority minority! nothing you can do about it! now YOU must be prepared to compete!

We may be made up of many races, nationalities and original cultures which should be honored, but I hope that all will continue to swear allegiance our Nation's unicultural idea, which is the values of the American and European enlightenment and the Anglo-American legal tradition. If people won't want to sign up for that, they shouldn't come here. To become truly "multi-cultural" would set this country down the path to Balkanization.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Funny you mention that. My kids had swimming lessons with their elementary school in Canada. Every week first period was at the rec center with the pool. It didn't cost any extra.

I can guarantee that your kids didn't get any BS advantage in the race just because of their skin color.

Did they?

Of course not, they're Canadian. It's white American children who raced in white-only government-funded pools and got every advantage.

The United States has a long, disgraceful, but not surprising history of segregated swimming pools. Robert Moses spent tens of millions of federal dollars to construct pools in white neighborhoods in New York City. Washington, D.C. operated white-only swimming pools near the Washington Monument. Desegregation did little to remedy the problem. In 1957, Marshall, Texas sold its pool to the Lions' Club to avoid integration. Once in the hands of private owners, the pool continued to ban blacks for years. In 1959, Montgomery, Alabama closed its public pools for ten years rather than integrate. In 1971, the city council of Palmer, Mississippi argued before the U.S. Supreme Court that it could not integrate its pools for economic and safety reasons. The Supreme Court upheld the city's decision to close the pools rather than allow blacks to swim in them. That's right: If you were born in 1970 -- you're not even 50! -- the Supreme Court affirmed the decision to close a government facility rather than allow access to blacks as constitutional in your lifetime. Read it for yourselves, disbelievers: Palmer v. Thompson, 403 U.S. 217 (1971).

Every white American claims to respect Martin Luther King, Jr. Well, here's a story about the man you pretend to revere but know practically nothing: On June 11, 1964, MLK was arrested for eating at the segregated restaurant at the Monson Motor Lodge in St. Augustine, Florida. The motel had a pool, and MLK and his associates thought, "Hey, we were so well received on our first visit! Let's go back and take a dip in their pool!" On June 18, 1964, a group of black protesters did exactly that. The motel manager responded by pouring acid on them. Yeah, that happened. In defense of the Monson Motor Lodge manager, it was cleaning acid. But pouring cleaning acid in swimming pools after blacks used them was standard operating procedure in the 1960s and 1970s. Read all about it: https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/motel-manager-pouring-acid-water-black-people-swam-pool-1964/

In those locales where public segregation could not maintained, white Americans did what white Americans do -- They fled. Millions of white homeowners abandoned public pools and built ones in their backyards, and millions more joined private clubs where those pesky black people wouldn't bother them. Despite having paid the fee to use the pool, black swimmers were told to leave the Valley Swim Club in Huntington Valley, Pennsylvania, because their very presence scared white children. The club publicly defended its stance, citing fears that too many blacks would "change the complexion" of the club. That was in 2009. Yay, America!

So, please, tell us more about this BS advantage black people have received in races because of their skin color. And, while you're at it, can you explain to us why this thread is now four pages deep, and not a single person has objected to the biggest demonstration of affirmative action in athletics -- women's sports. Honestly, if merit is paramount and to be upheld to the exclusion of anything else, white women in this thread have a lot of explaining to do. To complain about some mythical BS advantage in athletics that blacks never received but remain silent about the protection from stronger, faster male athletes than women receive is pretty damn brazen.

In other words, U.S. Olympic teams must have quotas.

give it up you racist dinosaur. the US is a multicultural country! majority minority! nothing you can do about it! now YOU must be prepared to compete!

We may be made up of many races, nationalities and original cultures which should be honored, but I hope that all will continue to swear allegiance our Nation's unicultural idea, which is the values of the American and European enlightenment and the Anglo-American legal tradition. If people won't want to sign up for that, they shouldn't come here. To become truly "multi-cultural" would set this country down the path to Balkanization.

Oh, I see, you're a Nazi* not a dinosaur.

*"Nazi" is not an exaggeration here. Citing to "European" and "Anglo-American" values is a well-known internet propaganda tactic of white supremacist.

Anyways, Harriet Tubman on the $20 bill and a browner, gayer Olympic team, suck it Nazi!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Funny you mention that. My kids had swimming lessons with their elementary school in Canada. Every week first period was at the rec center with the pool. It didn't cost any extra.

I can guarantee that your kids didn't get any BS advantage in the race just because of their skin color.

Did they?

Of course not, they're Canadian. It's white American children who raced in white-only government-funded pools and got every advantage.

The United States has a long, disgraceful, but not surprising history of segregated swimming pools. Robert Moses spent tens of millions of federal dollars to construct pools in white neighborhoods in New York City. Washington, D.C. operated white-only swimming pools near the Washington Monument. Desegregation did little to remedy the problem. In 1957, Marshall, Texas sold its pool to the Lions' Club to avoid integration. Once in the hands of private owners, the pool continued to ban blacks for years. In 1959, Montgomery, Alabama closed its public pools for ten years rather than integrate. In 1971, the city council of Palmer, Mississippi argued before the U.S. Supreme Court that it could not integrate its pools for economic and safety reasons. The Supreme Court upheld the city's decision to close the pools rather than allow blacks to swim in them. That's right: If you were born in 1970 -- you're not even 50! -- the Supreme Court affirmed the decision to close a government facility rather than allow access to blacks as constitutional in your lifetime. Read it for yourselves, disbelievers: Palmer v. Thompson, 403 U.S. 217 (1971).

Every white American claims to respect Martin Luther King, Jr. Well, here's a story about the man you pretend to revere but know practically nothing: On June 11, 1964, MLK was arrested for eating at the segregated restaurant at the Monson Motor Lodge in St. Augustine, Florida. The motel had a pool, and MLK and his associates thought, "Hey, we were so well received on our first visit! Let's go back and take a dip in their pool!" On June 18, 1964, a group of black protesters did exactly that. The motel manager responded by pouring acid on them. Yeah, that happened. In defense of the Monson Motor Lodge manager, it was cleaning acid. But pouring cleaning acid in swimming pools after blacks used them was standard operating procedure in the 1960s and 1970s. Read all about it: https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/motel-manager-pouring-acid-water-black-people-swam-pool-1964/

In those locales where public segregation could not maintained, white Americans did what white Americans do -- They fled. Millions of white homeowners abandoned public pools and built ones in their backyards, and millions more joined private clubs where those pesky black people wouldn't bother them. Despite having paid the fee to use the pool, black swimmers were told to leave the Valley Swim Club in Huntington Valley, Pennsylvania, because their very presence scared white children. The club publicly defended its stance, citing fears that too many blacks would "change the complexion" of the club. That was in 2009. Yay, America!

So, please, tell us more about this BS advantage black people have received in races because of their skin color. And, while you're at it, can you explain to us why this thread is now four pages deep, and not a single person has objected to the biggest demonstration of affirmative action in athletics -- women's sports. Honestly, if merit is paramount and to be upheld to the exclusion of anything else, white women in this thread have a lot of explaining to do. To complain about some mythical BS advantage in athletics that blacks never received but remain silent about the protection from stronger, faster male athletes than women receive is pretty damn brazen.

In other words, U.S. Olympic teams must have quotas.

give it up you racist dinosaur. the US is a multicultural country! majority minority! nothing you can do about it! now YOU must be prepared to compete!

We may be made up of many races, nationalities and original cultures which should be honored, but I hope that all will continue to swear allegiance our Nation's unicultural idea, which is the values of the American and European enlightenment and the Anglo-American legal tradition. If people won't want to sign up for that, they shouldn't come here. To become truly "multi-cultural" would set this country down the path to Balkanization.

What an idiotic notion. This country was built by Africans, Chinese, Irish and lots of others. Our legal legal system and constitution have roots in Native American law as well as English common law. The only "unicultural ideas" that matter are in the US Constitution and our codes of law. The US was never unicultural, even when white men held all the power. The notion that New Englanders ever shared a culture with southerners, for example is profoundly ignorant and ahistorical.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes or no? Why or why not?

Yes, and then let black athletes start five seconds earlier across all competitions, as a form of affirmative action.

Fair is fair.

Why do you assume that's the direction it would go. In track and field I'm guessing the white athlete would be let on and given a head start. By the way, I'm guess OP is white, not a minority somehow advocating for affirmative action in sports. As a minority, I think it's a ridiculous suggestion.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What do you mean "a factor"? The fact that the team, which was put together through meritocracy, happens to be more diverse is great. It's representative of the country it's supposed to represent, and shows that the pipeline has widened.

That people like Fox Vice Presidents see diverse Olympians and assume that a more qualified white man somehow got cheated out of his due is predictable BS.

So does this mean that there should be a diversity "plus factor" for Asian and Caucasian players to make the U.S. Olympic basketball team?

No minority is advocating affirmative action in the Olympics. Fox was mad to see minorities and gay people in the Winter Olympics, and couldn't help but get upset.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Funny you mention that. My kids had swimming lessons with their elementary school in Canada. Every week first period was at the rec center with the pool. It didn't cost any extra.

I can guarantee that your kids didn't get any BS advantage in the race just because of their skin color.

Did they?

Of course not, they're Canadian. It's white American children who raced in white-only government-funded pools and got every advantage.

The United States has a long, disgraceful, but not surprising history of segregated swimming pools. Robert Moses spent tens of millions of federal dollars to construct pools in white neighborhoods in New York City. Washington, D.C. operated white-only swimming pools near the Washington Monument. Desegregation did little to remedy the problem. In 1957, Marshall, Texas sold its pool to the Lions' Club to avoid integration. Once in the hands of private owners, the pool continued to ban blacks for years. In 1959, Montgomery, Alabama closed its public pools for ten years rather than integrate. In 1971, the city council of Palmer, Mississippi argued before the U.S. Supreme Court that it could not integrate its pools for economic and safety reasons. The Supreme Court upheld the city's decision to close the pools rather than allow blacks to swim in them. That's right: If you were born in 1970 -- you're not even 50! -- the Supreme Court affirmed the decision to close a government facility rather than allow access to blacks as constitutional in your lifetime. Read it for yourselves, disbelievers: Palmer v. Thompson, 403 U.S. 217 (1971).

Every white American claims to respect Martin Luther King, Jr. Well, here's a story about the man you pretend to revere but know practically nothing: On June 11, 1964, MLK was arrested for eating at the segregated restaurant at the Monson Motor Lodge in St. Augustine, Florida. The motel had a pool, and MLK and his associates thought, "Hey, we were so well received on our first visit! Let's go back and take a dip in their pool!" On June 18, 1964, a group of black protesters did exactly that. The motel manager responded by pouring acid on them. Yeah, that happened. In defense of the Monson Motor Lodge manager, it was cleaning acid. But pouring cleaning acid in swimming pools after blacks used them was standard operating procedure in the 1960s and 1970s. Read all about it: https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/motel-manager-pouring-acid-water-black-people-swam-pool-1964/

In those locales where public segregation could not maintained, white Americans did what white Americans do -- They fled. Millions of white homeowners abandoned public pools and built ones in their backyards, and millions more joined private clubs where those pesky black people wouldn't bother them. Despite having paid the fee to use the pool, black swimmers were told to leave the Valley Swim Club in Huntington Valley, Pennsylvania, because their very presence scared white children. The club publicly defended its stance, citing fears that too many blacks would "change the complexion" of the club. That was in 2009. Yay, America!

So, please, tell us more about this BS advantage black people have received in races because of their skin color. And, while you're at it, can you explain to us why this thread is now four pages deep, and not a single person has objected to the biggest demonstration of affirmative action in athletics -- women's sports. Honestly, if merit is paramount and to be upheld to the exclusion of anything else, white women in this thread have a lot of explaining to do. To complain about some mythical BS advantage in athletics that blacks never received but remain silent about the protection from stronger, faster male athletes than women receive is pretty damn brazen.

My goodness. Standing ovation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was suprised at how entirely white Canadas olympic team is.

Do they not have black or brown people in Canada?

The contrast with the US was striking.

Canada didn't have slaves, you fool.

Are you really totally brain-dead and foolish enough to suggest that the only way Canada would have had people of color on the team is if they had been descended from slaves?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What do you mean "a factor"? The fact that the team, which was put together through meritocracy, happens to be more diverse is great. It's representative of the country it's supposed to represent, and shows that the pipeline has widened.

That people like Fox Vice Presidents see diverse Olympians and assume that a more qualified white man somehow got cheated out of his due is predictable BS.

So does this mean that there should be a diversity "plus factor" for Asian and Caucasian players to make the U.S. Olympic basketball team?

No, but someone as stupid as you might need a "plus factor" to hold down a job.

Of course, the post that you are replying to says the exact opposite of what you suggest -- that Olympic teams are chosen on merit, and no one but stupid racists at Fox news ever suggested anything else.

You gotta up your troll game. 0/10.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The only event where this could even remotely be a factor is figure skating, which has the artistic element/judges' discretion factor. The new system is perhaps better in that regard, making things more impartial.

Surya Bonaly was seriously discriminated against, not only for being black, but for not being "feminine" enough, not being a waif. She was a tremendous athlete and a beautiful performer. It was a shame she skated under the old judging system.

That being said, non-white skaters have had much success, so I don't know how big of a factor this is, even in figure skating.

Surya Bonaly landed the backflip on one foot[i] at the 1998 Nagano Olympics, but the move isl considered illegal in competition. She was phenomenal, and I loved her!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is a straw man, unless OP has an example of someone who was faster/stronger/better but was edged out based on race/ethnicity/religion/sexual identity.

The assumption that diversity = a less qualified minority cheated a white dude out of his just desserts is what underlies all these bigots' consternation at a diverse Olympic team. They don't even dogwhistle anymore, they just see a nonwhite athlete and start crying about how "the better athletes" aren't there anymore. No evidence, no logic, just "white people are better; if they're not there the brown people must have cheated somehow."

I dont even get how someone could argue this as white people are clearly not always the best athletes, not even close. In fact, some could argue based on anecdotal evidence that whites are never the best athletes. For instance, take Speed Skating, a sport long dominated by very white people from Northern European countries... then along comes Shani Davis, a black man, and he changes the sport with his athleticism and advanced technique. Thats just one example others include: Williams sisters, Myles Jones, Dominique Dawes and Simone Biles, Michelle Kwan and Kristi Yamaguchi, and the list goes on... I honestly believe, when you are talking about who is the best in a sport (barring illegal enhancement) you only look at the outcomes and results.