Rape and Abortion

[Anonymous]

In countries that outlaw abortion, both women's are children's lives are shitty.

My body, my choice. I come first. ALWAYS. And yes, I say this as a mother.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Let's call a spade a spade. The pro-life movement claims to be in favor of legalizing abortion in the case of rape because they believe it looks like they're willing to compromise, but in all actuality, they know there is no possible way for a woman to legally prove she got pregnant from a rape in the small window of time needed to abort the pregnancy. This is nothing more than a way to make all abortions illegal without looking like cruel, heartless jerks. The fact of the matter is, many pro-lifers care a lot more about a fetus than they do a woman.

Consider the fact that we started out as that tiny life inside of our mothers.

And how many more of us there'd be, if so many of us weren't killed during the early stages of our human development.

Now what did Malcolm Gladwell say about the reduction of crime associated with the legalization of abortion?

I guess we will never know about all the missing fetus?

Are you also opposed to birth control, as that prevents conception?

You're wrong. Birth control often *fails* to prevent conception. Let's be clear here. But this thread is about abortion, isn't it?

[Anonymous]

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In countries that outlaw abortion, both women's are children's lives are shitty.

My body, my choice. I come first. ALWAYS. And yes, I say this as a mother.

Most parents I know are happy to make some sacrifices FOR their children. But that's just them. Not you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

In countries that outlaw abortion, both women's are children's lives are shitty.

My body, my choice. I come first. ALWAYS. And yes, I say this as a mother.

Most parents I know are happy to make some sacrifices FOR their children. But that's just them. Not you.

I make a lot of sacrifices for my children. By CHOICE! Not because I was forced to.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Let's call a spade a spade. The pro-life movement claims to be in favor of legalizing abortion in the case of rape because they believe it looks like they're willing to compromise, but in all actuality, they know there is no possible way for a woman to legally prove she got pregnant from a rape in the small window of time needed to abort the pregnancy. This is nothing more than a way to make all abortions illegal without looking like cruel, heartless jerks. The fact of the matter is, many pro-lifers care a lot more about a fetus than they do a woman.

Consider the fact that we started out as that tiny life inside of our mothers.

And how many more of us there'd be, if so many of us weren't killed during the early stages of our human development.

Now what did Malcolm Gladwell say about the reduction of crime associated with the legalization of abortion?

I guess we will never know about all the missing fetus?

Are you also opposed to birth control, as that prevents conception?

You're wrong. Birth control often *fails* to prevent conception. Let's be clear here. But this thread is about abortion, isn't it?

Most forms of birth control are considered to be abortifacients. So they'd be unavailable as well.

[Anonymous]

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In countries that outlaw abortion, both women's are children's lives are shitty.

My body, my choice. I come first. ALWAYS. And yes, I say this as a mother.

Yikes. Listen to yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

In countries that outlaw abortion, both women's are children's lives are shitty.

My body, my choice. I come first. ALWAYS. And yes, I say this as a mother.

Yikes. Listen to yourself.

I do. I'm smart. I take care of myself first, so I can take care of my children, especially the one with special needs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

In countries that outlaw abortion, both women's are children's lives are shitty.

My body, my choice. I come first. ALWAYS. And yes, I say this as a mother.

Most parents I know are happy to make some sacrifices FOR their children. But that's just them. Not you.

I make a lot of sacrifices for my children. By CHOICE! Not because I was forced to.

Well, let's see... If you failed to clothe, feed, or shelter your children, you'd be charged for child neglect. Your choice indeed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:TRY again... the medical definition of life. The supreme court decision.

Stay out of my uterus.

ah come on! surely you can not believe a bunch of lawyers can decide when life begins. I respect people who believe in choice, but not ones that use such stupid ways of defending their beliefs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

In countries that outlaw abortion, both women's are children's lives are shitty.

My body, my choice. I come first. ALWAYS. And yes, I say this as a mother.

Most parents I know are happy to make some sacrifices FOR their children. But that's just them. Not you.

I make a lot of sacrifices for my children. By CHOICE! Not because I was forced to.

Well, let's see... If you failed to clothe, feed, or shelter your children, you'd be charged for child neglect. Your choice indeed.

Exactly, my CHOICE indeed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

In countries that outlaw abortion, both women's are children's lives are shitty.

My body, my choice. I come first. ALWAYS. And yes, I say this as a mother.

Most parents I know are happy to make some sacrifices FOR their children. But that's just them. Not you.

I make a lot of sacrifices for my children. By CHOICE! Not because I was forced to.

Well, let's see... If you failed to clothe, feed, or shelter your children, you'd be charged for child neglect. Your choice indeed.

Exactly, my CHOICE indeed.

FYI, Choices have consequences.

[Anonymous]

Yes. Abortion for some. Babies for others.

Can we lay this discussion to rest now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes. Abortion for some. Babies for others.

Can we lay this discussion to rest now?

Why? Too uncomfortable? Just imagine it being done to you. Now that would really be painful.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:On one hand, I have some (very teeny tiny amount of) respect for "pro-life" people who do not support abortion exceptions in the case of rape or incest - at least they're being consistent.

But personally, I 1000xinfinity support a woman's right to choose to terminate a pregnancy, any time, and unquestionably for a pregnancy incurred via rape. A woman comes first - always. The woman is a person. If something cannot exist in any rudimentary form without being physically dependent on a specific person, then it is not an "individual" and thus not a person.

Are you ideologically consistent? Are severally disabled humans and newborn infants not persons in your view? What about severally premature babies? None of these can survive in any kind of rudimentary form.

Yes, I am ideologically consistent. Severely disabled humans, newborn infants, nor severely premature babies are completely and totally physically dependent on a very specific, non-interchangeable person.

That's a meaningless distinction to the "non-person" whose "personhood" you are trying to determine.

Not at all.

If something cannot even exist without being wholly physically dependent on a specific, non-interchangeable person, then that something is not an individual, and does not have individual rights, and is not a "person."

This is what you believe. However, I am sure you can understand that reasonable intelligent people may see it differently. While your definition of life might seem reasonable to you, there are other definitions that are just as reasonable.

You are entirely within your rights to believe differently for you, and your body. If you believe life begins at conception in your body, I can completely respect that. Will you extend the same respect to others and what they believe about their bodies?

[Anonymous]

All I have to say is I saw my first Ltitle Ones heartbeat at almost 5 weeks. I was in b love and would literally c s pend the next 8 months fighting to keep her safe from my crazy body. At 9 wKS she waved and tumbled around. At 12 weeks she sat Indian style in me. I felt her kicks at 17 weeks. How could one go through these beautiful moments and decide 8 weeks later to b just strangle, chop up and butcher this gift from God????!