Just started eating 1800 calories a day and feel like crap

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Anonymous wrote:1:22 - Why would anyone be jealous of someone only being able to eat 700 calories a day? That sounds awful. That is almost no food. I can easily eat that in a meal. Even a normal meal of 1,400 sounds awful. If that's gloating, I'm a little sad for the gloater.

Now I can see someone being jealous when I say that at 44, I can eat 2,500 calories a day or more and maintain weight, or cut back to around 2,000 and lose. That's what years of daily exercise and not jacking up your metabolism can do. When dieting, it's a good idea to think long-term when it comes to metabolism.


I'm in the same boat. I'm not thin (not overweight either) but a regular eater and hardcore exerciser. My caloric levels are similar because I've had an eye towards metabolism long-term.


Ya know, most of us didn't go out thinking we were going to mess up our metabolisms. But yes, I now realize that as a college athlete when the nutritionist told us to eat as many carbs as we wanted but to watch out fat like a hawk, she was wrong. And I was wrong to follow her advice for the next 15 years. And now here I am, 43, after years of fighting the good fight, and I can eat 1500 to maintain or 1200 to lose. And I work out and yada yada yada. I'm glad you were all-knowing about how not to mess up your metabolism. Frankly, as someone who reads the literature on weight and exercise pretty obsessively, I'm pretty sure the jury is still out on what a metabolism-friendly eating pattern is, exactly.


You don't think that eating "regularly" over decades - as in not dieting obsessively or eating an extreme amount - is good for your metabolism? Better read up some more. Or maybe you're just hungry.


The thing is that people don't agree what "regularly" means, do they? And if you find yourself an overweight active person in your early 20's, as I did, you feel like you do need to lose the weight to set you on the right path for the rest of your life. So you diet. And since something like 99% of people who diet gain back the weight, you gain back the weight. And you try again. The cycle repeats, and you end up with a body that needs many fewer calories than people who were never overweight - see the Biggest Loser study. I am not talking about obsessive dieting but the very common up and down of the scale that many of us experienced. I'll I'm saying is that you can't assume that your path - "regular" healthy eating for a lifetime - works for other people. We don't have time turners. We can't go back and make our parents feed us better, or get tell our 20 year old selves to lay off the pasta and eat more tuna. So many of us must live with our current bodies, which give us the options of eating fewer calories than you see as normal or healthy, and being fat. You don't need to make that harder than it already is by being snotty.

We're not talking about the same thing. If you're talking about the 'common up and down of the scale,' then I've experienced it too, and that's not what I'm talking about. I'm not a tiny person, but I'm normal weight, fit and strong. And happy. And I drink wine and eat cheese. And you sound miserable.
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Anonymous wrote:It might be sugar withdrawal. If you've cut out caffeine as well that could be causing your symptoms.



+1 It's probably sugar and caffeine withdrawal. It will get better on day 3.
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Be careful to drink MORE water than before. Eating less dehydrates you.

Stick to unprocessed fruits and veggies to ward of constipation and get vitamins and fluids, eat lean protein (I'm buying turkey ham with 0 fat right now, there's also tofu and chicken, etc), and nix the starch (rice, pasta, bread). Take a multivitamin, perhaps iron if you have anemic tendencies.

You must be tall. My normal calorie intake is 1400 and my diet one is half that.



Nobody's caloric intake should be 700 calories. Your metabolism must be so jacked up.


Agree. Such terrible advice from the pro-ana crowd here.

OP, your body is just adjusting. It'll take a week or so.


Once again, criticizing people you don't know, whose shape and metabolism you don't know either. Way to go.

I'm a slim and petite Asian. I'm healthy, but thank you very much for judging!


NP here. Why in the world would a slim and petite person of any race come onto a thread about a person dieting to lose weight and gloat about how they subsist on 1400 calories and diet at 700? According to USDA guidelines, the average woman needs 1600-2000 for healthy weight management. You are so small and below the median that your caloric intake cannot possibly be close to average or close to the caloric intake of a person who is heavy and trying to lose weight.

Why in the world would you come here to rub your low caloric intake because of your diminutive size into the face of someone who is heavy and dieting? How could it possibly be pertinent or helpful?


Agreed. How utterly weird and irrelevant. And well below what a normal, healthy, and fit/active adult woman should be eating.



These comments are childishly emotional. You wouldn't react this way if deep down, you weren't jealous, which is unhealthy. Everyone has to feed the body they have, so no one should be jealous of anyone else! Stop criticizing others just because they have different needs.



You're missing the glaring point. Your body has a NEED for food. 700 calories isn't enough to sustain healthy life. Look, I can eat whatever I want and never workout and be a thin but soft 100 lbs. or I can eat healthy, work out 3x a week, and be a trim and lean 100 lbs. I don't have any reason to be jealous of someone who goes through life subsisting on 700 calories a day. How sad and joyless. You must have no energy and constant anxiety over every bite you eat if your ceiling is 700 calories. You really should not be chiming in on weight loss threads because your whole attitude and advice is detrimental and unhealthy.


This isn't exactly true. Your body does need food, but yes, a person can be healthy on 700 calories a day. But here's the kicker, you have to be eating very high quality food, drinking lots of water, and getting necessary nutrients from the 700 calories you are consuming. You also need to have excess body fat. So a fat person eating a 700 calorie diet can actually be healthy because their bodies would be burning their body fat for fuel on top of food they are eating. If you are extremely fat, you can probably sustain a 700 calorie diet for months and still be healthy. Obviously this kind of diet needs to be medically monitored.

Obviously this isn't sustainable in the long run as that fat person would lose all excess fat at some point (there is a minimum body fat required, like 3-5% for males and maybe 8-10% for females)
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Anonymous wrote:I compete in a weight class sport and have to lose 6 pounds in the next month. I have cut down to 1800 calories this week. Here was my intake yesterday:

Breakfast:
Coffee with chocolate toffee truffle creamer
Strawberry greek yogurt with blueberries and cacao nibs
Half an avocado
Fresh mozzarella
34g carb/32g fat/30g protein

Lunch:
Chicken breast
Barilla protein pasta
Butter
Fresh basil
38g carb/8g fat/36g protein

Dinner:
Sirloin
Butter
Half an Avocado
Asparagus
Parmesan cheese
12g carb/33g fat/51g protein

Snacks:
3 oatmeal cookies dipped in peanut butter and chocolate Jif whips
1 piece of dark chocolate
35g carb/18g fat/5g protein

Total:124g carb/91g fat/121g protein

A high fat diet works better for me, keeps my hormones stable, keeps me full, and prevents migraines. I cut weight 4 times a year to get from training weight to competition weight. When I'm just in a training cycle, I bump up my carb intake to about 200g for the extra energy. I train 5 days a week, 2 hours per session. My training weight is 134lbs at 5'6" and my competition weight is 127.9lb.


That doesn't seem like enough vegetables or fiber for me?
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Anonymous wrote:I compete in a weight class sport and have to lose 6 pounds in the next month. I have cut down to 1800 calories this week. Here was my intake yesterday:

Breakfast:
Coffee with chocolate toffee truffle creamer
Strawberry greek yogurt with blueberries and cacao nibs
Half an avocado
Fresh mozzarella
34g carb/32g fat/30g protein

Lunch:
Chicken breast
Barilla protein pasta
Butter
Fresh basil
38g carb/8g fat/36g protein

Dinner:
Sirloin
Butter
Half an Avocado
Asparagus
Parmesan cheese
12g carb/33g fat/51g protein

Snacks:
3 oatmeal cookies dipped in peanut butter and chocolate Jif whips
1 piece of dark chocolate
35g carb/18g fat/5g protein

Total:124g carb/91g fat/121g protein

A high fat diet works better for me, keeps my hormones stable, keeps me full, and prevents migraines. I cut weight 4 times a year to get from training weight to competition weight. When I'm just in a training cycle, I bump up my carb intake to about 200g for the extra energy. I train 5 days a week, 2 hours per session. My training weight is 134lbs at 5'6" and my competition weight is 127.9lb.


That doesn't seem like enough vegetables or fiber for me?


Agreed. Not a bad diet, but I would replace the oatmeal cookies with sweet potatoes. Also vegetables like spinach and kale are pretty much freebies.
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Anonymous wrote:I compete in a weight class sport and have to lose 6 pounds in the next month. I have cut down to 1800 calories this week. Here was my intake yesterday:

Breakfast:
Coffee with chocolate toffee truffle creamer
Strawberry greek yogurt with blueberries and cacao nibs
Half an avocado
Fresh mozzarella
34g carb/32g fat/30g protein

Lunch:
Chicken breast
Barilla protein pasta
Butter
Fresh basil
38g carb/8g fat/36g protein

Dinner:
Sirloin
Butter
Half an Avocado
Asparagus
Parmesan cheese
12g carb/33g fat/51g protein

Snacks:
3 oatmeal cookies dipped in peanut butter and chocolate Jif whips
1 piece of dark chocolate
35g carb/18g fat/5g protein

Total:124g carb/91g fat/121g protein

A high fat diet works better for me, keeps my hormones stable, keeps me full, and prevents migraines. I cut weight 4 times a year to get from training weight to competition weight. When I'm just in a training cycle, I bump up my carb intake to about 200g for the extra energy. I train 5 days a week, 2 hours per session. My training weight is 134lbs at 5'6" and my competition weight is 127.9lb.


That doesn't seem like enough vegetables or fiber for me?


Agreed. Not a bad diet, but I would replace the oatmeal cookies with sweet potatoes. Also vegetables like spinach and kale are pretty much freebies.


The oatmeal cookies are homemade and for my sanity. 3 cookies is 20g carbs/4.5g fat/1.5g protein/2g fiber. On that day, breakfast included 7g of fiber, lunch had 4g, dinner had 7g, snacks had 3g, so a total of 21g of fiber. I typically get between 20-25 per day. That is plenty.
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Be careful to drink MORE water than before. Eating less dehydrates you.

Stick to unprocessed fruits and veggies to ward of constipation and get vitamins and fluids, eat lean protein (I'm buying turkey ham with 0 fat right now, there's also tofu and chicken, etc), and nix the starch (rice, pasta, bread). Take a multivitamin, perhaps iron if you have anemic tendencies.

You must be tall. My normal calorie intake is 1400 and my diet one is half that.



Nobody's caloric intake should be 700 calories. Your metabolism must be so jacked up.


Agree. Such terrible advice from the pro-ana crowd here.

OP, your body is just adjusting. It'll take a week or so.


Once again, criticizing people you don't know, whose shape and metabolism you don't know either. Way to go.

I'm a slim and petite Asian. I'm healthy, but thank you very much for judging!


NP here. Why in the world would a slim and petite person of any race come onto a thread about a person dieting to lose weight and gloat about how they subsist on 1400 calories and diet at 700? According to USDA guidelines, the average woman needs 1600-2000 for healthy weight management. You are so small and below the median that your caloric intake cannot possibly be close to average or close to the caloric intake of a person who is heavy and trying to lose weight.

Why in the world would you come here to rub your low caloric intake because of your diminutive size into the face of someone who is heavy and dieting? How could it possibly be pertinent or helpful?


Agreed. How utterly weird and irrelevant. And well below what a normal, healthy, and fit/active adult woman should be eating.



These comments are childishly emotional. You wouldn't react this way if deep down, you weren't jealous, which is unhealthy. Everyone has to feed the body they have, so no one should be jealous of anyone else! Stop criticizing others just because they have different needs.



You're missing the glaring point. Your body has a NEED for food. 700 calories isn't enough to sustain healthy life. Look, I can eat whatever I want and never workout and be a thin but soft 100 lbs. or I can eat healthy, work out 3x a week, and be a trim and lean 100 lbs. I don't have any reason to be jealous of someone who goes through life subsisting on 700 calories a day. How sad and joyless. You must have no energy and constant anxiety over every bite you eat if your ceiling is 700 calories. You really should not be chiming in on weight loss threads because your whole attitude and advice is detrimental and unhealthy.


I am not a previous poster, but I dont' see anything wrong with living on 1400 cal. Some people just don't need a lot of food. I don't like to feel overstuffed, I don't like heavy foods that makes me feel tired and sleepy. I do workout 5 times a week at least and I have tons of energy. I am in my 40s and my weight beign between 115-117 all the time after the last child. I do fast some days (0 calories), so 700 calories could be very fullfilling if it is a nutritious food. For people who eat 2000 calories and saying thay are skinny, I don't believe it. You probably skinny by american standards only.
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Be careful to drink MORE water than before. Eating less dehydrates you.

Stick to unprocessed fruits and veggies to ward of constipation and get vitamins and fluids, eat lean protein (I'm buying turkey ham with 0 fat right now, there's also tofu and chicken, etc), and nix the starch (rice, pasta, bread). Take a multivitamin, perhaps iron if you have anemic tendencies.

You must be tall. My normal calorie intake is 1400 and my diet one is half that.



Nobody's caloric intake should be 700 calories. Your metabolism must be so jacked up.


Agree. Such terrible advice from the pro-ana crowd here.

OP, your body is just adjusting. It'll take a week or so.


Once again, criticizing people you don't know, whose shape and metabolism you don't know either. Way to go.

I'm a slim and petite Asian. I'm healthy, but thank you very much for judging!


NP here. Why in the world would a slim and petite person of any race come onto a thread about a person dieting to lose weight and gloat about how they subsist on 1400 calories and diet at 700? According to USDA guidelines, the average woman needs 1600-2000 for healthy weight management. You are so small and below the median that your caloric intake cannot possibly be close to average or close to the caloric intake of a person who is heavy and trying to lose weight.

Why in the world would you come here to rub your low caloric intake because of your diminutive size into the face of someone who is heavy and dieting? How could it possibly be pertinent or helpful?


Agreed. How utterly weird and irrelevant. And well below what a normal, healthy, and fit/active adult woman should be eating.



These comments are childishly emotional. You wouldn't react this way if deep down, you weren't jealous, which is unhealthy. Everyone has to feed the body they have, so no one should be jealous of anyone else! Stop criticizing others just because they have different needs.



You're missing the glaring point. Your body has a NEED for food. 700 calories isn't enough to sustain healthy life. Look, I can eat whatever I want and never workout and be a thin but soft 100 lbs. or I can eat healthy, work out 3x a week, and be a trim and lean 100 lbs. I don't have any reason to be jealous of someone who goes through life subsisting on 700 calories a day. How sad and joyless. You must have no energy and constant anxiety over every bite you eat if your ceiling is 700 calories. You really should not be chiming in on weight loss threads because your whole attitude and advice is detrimental and unhealthy.


I am not a previous poster, but I dont' see anything wrong with living on 1400 cal. Some people just don't need a lot of food. I don't like to feel overstuffed, I don't like heavy foods that makes me feel tired and sleepy. I do workout 5 times a week at least and I have tons of energy. I am in my 40s and my weight beign between 115-117 all the time after the last child. I do fast some days (0 calories), so 700 calories could be very fullfilling if it is a nutritious food. For people who eat 2000 calories and saying thay are skinny, I don't believe it. You probably skinny by american standards only.


Honestly this just makes me sad. Have you ever heard of exercise? I don't mean doing yoga 2x a week. I eat about 2500 to maintain, because I not only burn calories when I exercise, but at this point, it's also revved up my metabolism when I'm just sitting or asleep.

While I am a size 2-4 (at 5'3"), you can determine if that's "skinny" to you, though I don't really care. I can tell you that I have zero desire to be skinny, and that being skinny has no appeal to me. I much prefer being fit - and there is a difference.

Fasting, eating little, and being skinny, and not exercising has no appeal to me. That sounds like such a sad way to live.
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Be careful to drink MORE water than before. Eating less dehydrates you.

Stick to unprocessed fruits and veggies to ward of constipation and get vitamins and fluids, eat lean protein (I'm buying turkey ham with 0 fat right now, there's also tofu and chicken, etc), and nix the starch (rice, pasta, bread). Take a multivitamin, perhaps iron if you have anemic tendencies.

You must be tall. My normal calorie intake is 1400 and my diet one is half that.



Nobody's caloric intake should be 700 calories. Your metabolism must be so jacked up.


Agree. Such terrible advice from the pro-ana crowd here.

OP, your body is just adjusting. It'll take a week or so.


Once again, criticizing people you don't know, whose shape and metabolism you don't know either. Way to go.

I'm a slim and petite Asian. I'm healthy, but thank you very much for judging!


NP here. Why in the world would a slim and petite person of any race come onto a thread about a person dieting to lose weight and gloat about how they subsist on 1400 calories and diet at 700? According to USDA guidelines, the average woman needs 1600-2000 for healthy weight management. You are so small and below the median that your caloric intake cannot possibly be close to average or close to the caloric intake of a person who is heavy and trying to lose weight.

Why in the world would you come here to rub your low caloric intake because of your diminutive size into the face of someone who is heavy and dieting? How could it possibly be pertinent or helpful?


Agreed. How utterly weird and irrelevant. And well below what a normal, healthy, and fit/active adult woman should be eating.



These comments are childishly emotional. You wouldn't react this way if deep down, you weren't jealous, which is unhealthy. Everyone has to feed the body they have, so no one should be jealous of anyone else! Stop criticizing others just because they have different needs.



You're missing the glaring point. Your body has a NEED for food. 700 calories isn't enough to sustain healthy life. Look, I can eat whatever I want and never workout and be a thin but soft 100 lbs. or I can eat healthy, work out 3x a week, and be a trim and lean 100 lbs. I don't have any reason to be jealous of someone who goes through life subsisting on 700 calories a day. How sad and joyless. You must have no energy and constant anxiety over every bite you eat if your ceiling is 700 calories. You really should not be chiming in on weight loss threads because your whole attitude and advice is detrimental and unhealthy.


I am not a previous poster, but I dont' see anything wrong with living on 1400 cal. Some people just don't need a lot of food. I don't like to feel overstuffed, I don't like heavy foods that makes me feel tired and sleepy. I do workout 5 times a week at least and I have tons of energy. I am in my 40s and my weight beign between 115-117 all the time after the last child. I do fast some days (0 calories), so 700 calories could be very fullfilling if it is a nutritious food. For people who eat 2000 calories and saying thay are skinny, I don't believe it. You probably skinny by american standards only.


You're a sad, sad person.
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Anonymous wrote:1:22 - Why would anyone be jealous of someone only being able to eat 700 calories a day? That sounds awful. That is almost no food. I can easily eat that in a meal. Even a normal meal of 1,400 sounds awful. If that's gloating, I'm a little sad for the gloater.

Now I can see someone being jealous when I say that at 44, I can eat 2,500 calories a day or more and maintain weight, or cut back to around 2,000 and lose. That's what years of daily exercise and not jacking up your metabolism can do. When dieting, it's a good idea to think long-term when it comes to metabolism.


I'm in the same boat. I'm not thin (not overweight either) but a regular eater and hardcore exerciser. My caloric levels are similar because I've had an eye towards metabolism long-term.


Ya know, most of us didn't go out thinking we were going to mess up our metabolisms. But yes, I now realize that as a college athlete when the nutritionist told us to eat as many carbs as we wanted but to watch out fat like a hawk, she was wrong. And I was wrong to follow her advice for the next 15 years. And now here I am, 43, after years of fighting the good fight, and I can eat 1500 to maintain or 1200 to lose. And I work out and yada yada yada. I'm glad you were all-knowing about how not to mess up your metabolism. Frankly, as someone who reads the literature on weight and exercise pretty obsessively, I'm pretty sure the jury is still out on what a metabolism-friendly eating pattern is, exactly.


You don't think that eating "regularly" over decades - as in not dieting obsessively or eating an extreme amount - is good for your metabolism? Better read up some more. Or maybe you're just hungry.


The thing is that people don't agree what "regularly" means, do they? And if you find yourself an overweight active person in your early 20's, as I did, you feel like you do need to lose the weight to set you on the right path for the rest of your life. So you diet. And since something like 99% of people who diet gain back the weight, you gain back the weight. And you try again. The cycle repeats, and you end up with a body that needs many fewer calories than people who were never overweight - see the Biggest Loser study. I am not talking about obsessive dieting but the very common up and down of the scale that many of us experienced. I'll I'm saying is that you can't assume that your path - "regular" healthy eating for a lifetime - works for other people. We don't have time turners. We can't go back and make our parents feed us better, or get tell our 20 year old selves to lay off the pasta and eat more tuna. So many of us must live with our current bodies, which give us the options of eating fewer calories than you see as normal or healthy, and being fat. You don't need to make that harder than it already is by being snotty.

We're not talking about the same thing. If you're talking about the 'common up and down of the scale,' then I've experienced it too, and that's not what I'm talking about. I'm not a tiny person, but I'm normal weight, fit and strong. And happy. And I drink wine and eat cheese. And you sound miserable.


What would make me miserable would be getting diabetes, which was an option for me 40lbs ago. I am quite happy now. Food is lovely, and I like cheese, too. I eat fewer than 1500 calories a day now to maintain and I am still a few pounds above normal BMI. I'm puzzled why the fact that I need less food makes you angry. I wish I could eat like you. I can't. Oh well. Other things make me happy.
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Be careful to drink MORE water than before. Eating less dehydrates you.

Stick to unprocessed fruits and veggies to ward of constipation and get vitamins and fluids, eat lean protein (I'm buying turkey ham with 0 fat right now, there's also tofu and chicken, etc), and nix the starch (rice, pasta, bread). Take a multivitamin, perhaps iron if you have anemic tendencies.

You must be tall. My normal calorie intake is 1400 and my diet one is half that.



Nobody's caloric intake should be 700 calories. Your metabolism must be so jacked up.


Agree. Such terrible advice from the pro-ana crowd here.

OP, your body is just adjusting. It'll take a week or so.


Once again, criticizing people you don't know, whose shape and metabolism you don't know either. Way to go.

I'm a slim and petite Asian. I'm healthy, but thank you very much for judging!


NP here. Why in the world would a slim and petite person of any race come onto a thread about a person dieting to lose weight and gloat about how they subsist on 1400 calories and diet at 700? According to USDA guidelines, the average woman needs 1600-2000 for healthy weight management. You are so small and below the median that your caloric intake cannot possibly be close to average or close to the caloric intake of a person who is heavy and trying to lose weight.

Why in the world would you come here to rub your low caloric intake because of your diminutive size into the face of someone who is heavy and dieting? How could it possibly be pertinent or helpful?


Agreed. How utterly weird and irrelevant. And well below what a normal, healthy, and fit/active adult woman should be eating.



These comments are childishly emotional. You wouldn't react this way if deep down, you weren't jealous, which is unhealthy. Everyone has to feed the body they have, so no one should be jealous of anyone else! Stop criticizing others just because they have different needs.



You're missing the glaring point. Your body has a NEED for food. 700 calories isn't enough to sustain healthy life. Look, I can eat whatever I want and never workout and be a thin but soft 100 lbs. or I can eat healthy, work out 3x a week, and be a trim and lean 100 lbs. I don't have any reason to be jealous of someone who goes through life subsisting on 700 calories a day. How sad and joyless. You must have no energy and constant anxiety over every bite you eat if your ceiling is 700 calories. You really should not be chiming in on weight loss threads because your whole attitude and advice is detrimental and unhealthy.


I am not a previous poster, but I dont' see anything wrong with living on 1400 cal. Some people just don't need a lot of food. I don't like to feel overstuffed, I don't like heavy foods that makes me feel tired and sleepy. I do workout 5 times a week at least and I have tons of energy. I am in my 40s and my weight beign between 115-117 all the time after the last child. I do fast some days (0 calories), so 700 calories could be very fullfilling if it is a nutritious food. For people who eat 2000 calories and saying thay are skinny, I don't believe it. You probably skinny by american standards only.


And your last sentence reveals your whole agenda. Plenty of people are skinny eating whatever they want because they haven't wrecked their metabolisms by fasting and "splurging" on nutritious 700 calorie days. Plenty of people also don't WANT to be "skinny" they want to be fit and strong and healthy. I can eat 2000 calories and be skinny but being in shape and strong is better than just being skinny. If you're working out 5 days a week but fasting some days and consider 700 calories reasonable and even filling, I'm sorry, you have an issue. And it is not jealousy to point that out.
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Anonymous wrote:Drink more water, yes. What kind of food are you eating? If you cut back the carbs and get protein and healthy fat within your calorie limit, you'll feel better.

I don't think of 1800 calories as a low-calorie diet, unless maybe you're a pro athlete. I have to stick to 1000 or I gain weight, sadly.



How tall are you? I'm what many people what describe as slender, and I'd be starving and weak on 1000 calories.
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I am not a previous poster, but I dont' see anything wrong with living on 1400 cal. Some people just don't need a lot of food. I don't like to feel overstuffed, I don't like heavy foods that makes me feel tired and sleepy. I do workout 5 times a week at least and I have tons of energy. I am in my 40s and my weight beign between 115-117 all the time after the last child. I do fast some days (0 calories), so 700 calories could be very fullfilling if it is a nutritious food. For people who eat 2000 calories and saying thay are skinny, I don't believe it. You probably skinny by american standards only.


Honestly this just makes me sad. Have you ever heard of exercise? I don't mean doing yoga 2x a week. I eat about 2500 to maintain, because I not only burn calories when I exercise, but at this point, it's also revved up my metabolism when I'm just sitting or asleep.

While I am a size 2-4 (at 5'3"), you can determine if that's "skinny" to you, though I don't really care. I can tell you that I have zero desire to be skinny, and that being skinny has no appeal to me. I much prefer being fit - and there is a difference.

Fasting, eating little, and being skinny, and not exercising has no appeal to me. That sounds like such a sad way to live. [/

PP, yes I exercise. I used to run a lot but stopped due to the knee injury during skiing accident. I take spinning class twice a week, do TRX once or twice a week, boot camps every other week or something like power playground, and then yoga and Pilates 2-3 times a week ( I do barre classes occasionally instead of Pilates). Why are you assuming that someone who eat 1200 calories is necessary unfit? In addition, I am very active with my kids on weekends or vacation, I ride bikes with them, swim in the pool or beach, go hiking, diving, skiing, kayaking, paddle boarding.It is funny that my lifestyle makes you sad. I don't live it for the sake of being skinny. I have a desk job and seat sometimes 10 hours a day, so I physically can't eat a lot. Fasting doesn't make me sad, it makes me happy ( I do fast for religious reason). If I eat 2500 calories, I feel like my colon is stuffed for days, and I don't like that feeling. I like to be light, if it makes sense to you. I do fill full after few bites and I can't shovel the entire plate at any restaurant. After I full, food doesn't taste good to me. Sometimes even one sushi roll is too much and I share one or two pieces with kids. But I do love food. I cook a lot and we travel a lot, so I never limit myself from any group of food. I don't diet, I eat very balanced meals.
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Anonymous wrote:1:22 - Why would anyone be jealous of someone only being able to eat 700 calories a day? That sounds awful. That is almost no food. I can easily eat that in a meal. Even a normal meal of 1,400 sounds awful. If that's gloating, I'm a little sad for the gloater.

Now I can see someone being jealous when I say that at 44, I can eat 2,500 calories a day or more and maintain weight, or cut back to around 2,000 and lose. That's what years of daily exercise and not jacking up your metabolism can do. When dieting, it's a good idea to think long-term when it comes to metabolism.


I'm in the same boat. I'm not thin (not overweight either) but a regular eater and hardcore exerciser. My caloric levels are similar because I've had an eye towards metabolism long-term.


Ya know, most of us didn't go out thinking we were going to mess up our metabolisms. But yes, I now realize that as a college athlete when the nutritionist told us to eat as many carbs as we wanted but to watch out fat like a hawk, she was wrong. And I was wrong to follow her advice for the next 15 years. And now here I am, 43, after years of fighting the good fight, and I can eat 1500 to maintain or 1200 to lose. And I work out and yada yada yada. I'm glad you were all-knowing about how not to mess up your metabolism. Frankly, as someone who reads the literature on weight and exercise pretty obsessively, I'm pretty sure the jury is still out on what a metabolism-friendly eating pattern is, exactly.


You don't think that eating "regularly" over decades - as in not dieting obsessively or eating an extreme amount - is good for your metabolism? Better read up some more. Or maybe you're just hungry.


The thing is that people don't agree what "regularly" means, do they? And if you find yourself an overweight active person in your early 20's, as I did, you feel like you do need to lose the weight to set you on the right path for the rest of your life. So you diet. And since something like 99% of people who diet gain back the weight, you gain back the weight. And you try again. The cycle repeats, and you end up with a body that needs many fewer calories than people who were never overweight - see the Biggest Loser study. I am not talking about obsessive dieting but the very common up and down of the scale that many of us experienced. I'll I'm saying is that you can't assume that your path - "regular" healthy eating for a lifetime - works for other people. We don't have time turners. We can't go back and make our parents feed us better, or get tell our 20 year old selves to lay off the pasta and eat more tuna. So many of us must live with our current bodies, which give us the options of eating fewer calories than you see as normal or healthy, and being fat. You don't need to make that harder than it already is by being snotty.

We're not talking about the same thing. If you're talking about the 'common up and down of the scale,' then I've experienced it too, and that's not what I'm talking about. I'm not a tiny person, but I'm normal weight, fit and strong. And happy. And I drink wine and eat cheese. And you sound miserable.



NP, but wine and cheese lady, you're the one who sounds miserable. And smug. And lacking in empathy.

You're deliberately ignoring the science that has changed over the decades in the way women were generally thought to diet and lose weight.

Just because you seem to think that you're the great prognosticator who found the Magic Bullet early on does not mean a damn thing.

I have always pretty much been a normal weight. I'm struggling with some weight gain right now. And going for the slow and steady as you say. But even I can see how absolutely nasty you're being. And I really don't understand why or how you can't see it
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And your last sentence reveals your whole agenda. Plenty of people are skinny eating whatever they want because they haven't wrecked their metabolisms by fasting and "splurging" on nutritious 700 calorie days. Plenty of people also don't WANT to be "skinny" they want to be fit and strong and healthy. I can eat 2000 calories and be skinny but being in shape and strong is better than just being skinny. If you're working out 5 days a week but fasting some days and consider 700 calories reasonable and even filling, I'm sorry, you have an issue. And it is not jealousy to point that out.


What issues? I am just curious if I need to see a specific Doctor? I go for annual exams once a year and all is fine. I am not on any medications, just vitamins. My blood pressure is 90/60, which is low, but I don't have any symptoms even if I don't drink coffee. All my blood test results are within range, including my thyroid blood tests. Overall, I feel good and don't get sick ( I never had a flue before and very rarely get cold in winter). What do you mean wrecked metabolism? I don't live every days on 700 calories, but some days I just forget or not hungry for one meal, and that may leave me with 700. Normally I eat between 100-1500, more likely around 1200. For example, yesterday I had a little bit of home made cottage cheese for breakfast, half of peach drizzled with honey and cup of black coffee. Small salad ( brought from home) and boiled egg for lunch. I got home from work late, after my family already had dinner and wasn't feeling like to eat at all that late. On days like that, I can grab a slice of watermelon, or tomato from the garden, or few nuts for dinner. I don't do it purposely and I don't count calories ( I did one year for a few month, just out of curiosity). So, I can just ballpoint that that was around 1000 calories max. If I have dinner, it would probably add 300-400 calories.

I don't snack usually, maybe that's why my calorie count comes lower. I also drink only water, unsweetened tea or coffee without milk or sugar. So, I
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