Another "safety" PK-3 question

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sacred Heart school is $6k a year, on Park and 16th.

If the OP isn't going to go public in columbia heights, then why pay $$ for the same area?

Sacred Heart is in Mount Pleasant. Different neighborhood, different vibe. Though I have never felt unsafe in Columbia Heights, either.

Yep. The traffic jams on Park Rd are more of a concern to parents than crime at this location.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:HD Cooke - have friends who are happy with the preschool

Appletree Columbia Heights

Thomson or Cleveland might be worth a slot, if you have them to spare.

Where do you work? You could also put down Capital Hill Montessori at Logan, if one parent works on or near the Hill/Union Station

Thomson's open house wasn't great. The kids basically have recess in a parking garage and for a 3 year old the whole point of life is to play outside. We're going to the Cleveland open house next week. Appletree is out per my comment above. We work in Dupont and Chinatown so the hill unfortunately doesn't work.

But thanks very much, will look into HD Cooke further!

You understand that this is very common for city schools. Playgrounds on the roof top, crossing major roads to the public playground etc.
If you live in DuPont, and not willing to go off of a small range you do not have many options.

FYI - I do not think Cooke is a Safety. I think your best shot is SWW FS since the IB zone is pretty small (WRT residential living with children)

NP here. So do you think SWW FS is worth a spot on the list as a safety if you aren't IB?

It's worth a spot, unless you've got all 12 filled, in that it's not pointless, but it's not a sure thing. An IB family was initially waitlisted last year. I think there were several sibling enrolleds (not IB) after that family on the waitlist. I don't know how many families they ultimately went through, I'd guess someone (several someones?) out of bounds got in (one or more of the sibling enrolleds certainly did), but it wasn't a ton of spots.

The SWWFS boundary is smaller that it used to be (used to overlap with Ross and OA and Thomson), so there should be a few OOBs in the first round and more after things settle down.

Yes, but it had already shrunk before last year's results (which were based on new boundaries) - which are the ones posted above. So that doesn't really change anything...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sacred Heart school is $6k a year, on Park and 16th.

I don't think that Sacred Heart qualifies as a safety school. Every year it has become more and more difficult to get a spot, especially in the lower grades. It is a great little school and the parents who send their kids there seem very happy so if you are interested, definitely apply and go through the admissions process, but it's not an automatic fallback option. The wait list is pretty long these days.

Not a safety school in the least. We were #3 on the WL last year and didn't get in. Your safeties are Garrison, Langley, Seaton, West, Whittier, Apple Tree CH, and W-J.

[Anonymous]

I love that Ross is such a sought after school. I used to live in the group house a few doors down from the school, and I suspect our behavior was not welcome by many of the parents back then. Obviously this was a million years before I had kids myself

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sacred Heart school is $6k a year, on Park and 16th.

I don't think that Sacred Heart qualifies as a safety school. Every year it has become more and more difficult to get a spot, especially in the lower grades. It is a great little school and the parents who send their kids there seem very happy so if you are interested, definitely apply and go through the admissions process, but it's not an automatic fallback option. The wait list is pretty long these days.

Not a safety school in the least. We were #3 on the WL last year and didn't get in. Your safeties are Garrison, Langley, Seaton, West, Whittier, Apple Tree CH, and W-J.

Yeah but kids still get in at Sacred Heart but you are suggesting West where NOT ONE "no preference" kid was accepted in lottery (30 spots went to 5 IB with sib, 2 with sib enrolled and 23 IB kids)?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:HD Cooke - have friends who are happy with the preschool

Appletree Columbia Heights

Thomson or Cleveland might be worth a slot, if you have them to spare.

Where do you work? You could also put down Capital Hill Montessori at Logan, if one parent works on or near the Hill/Union Station

Thomson's open house wasn't great. The kids basically have recess in a parking garage and for a 3 year old the whole point of life is to play outside. We're going to the Cleveland open house next week. Appletree is out per my comment above. We work in Dupont and Chinatown so the hill unfortunately doesn't work.

But thanks very much, will look into HD Cooke further!

You understand that this is very common for city schools. Playgrounds on the roof top, crossing major roads to the public playground etc.
If you live in DuPont, and not willing to go off of a small range you do not have many options.

FYI - I do not think Cooke is a Safety. I think your best shot is SWW FS since the IB zone is pretty small (WRT residential living with children)

NP here. So do you think SWW FS is worth a spot on the list as a safety if you aren't IB?

It's worth a spot, unless you've got all 12 filled, in that it's not pointless, but it's not a sure thing. An IB family was initially waitlisted last year. I think there were several sibling enrolleds (not IB) after that family on the waitlist. I don't know how many families they ultimately went through, I'd guess someone (several someones?) out of bounds got in (one or more of the sibling enrolleds certainly did), but it wasn't a ton of spots.

The SWWFS boundary is smaller that it used to be (used to overlap with Ross and OA and Thomson), so there should be a few OOBs in the first round and more after things settle down.

Yes, but it had already shrunk before last year's results (which were based on new boundaries) - which are the ones posted above. So that doesn't really change anything...

Ok, please help me understand the data on this page:

http://dcps.dc.gov/page/my-school-dc-lottery

It looks like 13 with no preference got in in round 1 for PK3 at SWWFS? I realize I might be reading this wrong.

[Anonymous]

PP, the data I see says that 1 person who was IB with sib and 34 IB sibs got in for PK3 in Francis-Stevens, round 1. 225 students were waitlisted that round, 1 inbound with sib accepted, 1 inbound, 16 OOB with sibling, 3 OOB with sibling accepted, and 204 no preference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:HD Cooke - have friends who are happy with the preschool

Appletree Columbia Heights

Thomson or Cleveland might be worth a slot, if you have them to spare.

Where do you work? You could also put down Capital Hill Montessori at Logan, if one parent works on or near the Hill/Union Station

Thomson's open house wasn't great. The kids basically have recess in a parking garage and for a 3 year old the whole point of life is to play outside. We're going to the Cleveland open house next week. Appletree is out per my comment above. We work in Dupont and Chinatown so the hill unfortunately doesn't work.

But thanks very much, will look into HD Cooke further!

You understand that this is very common for city schools. Playgrounds on the roof top, crossing major roads to the public playground etc.
If you live in DuPont, and not willing to go off of a small range you do not have many options.

FYI - I do not think Cooke is a Safety. I think your best shot is SWW FS since the IB zone is pretty small (WRT residential living with children)

NP here. So do you think SWW FS is worth a spot on the list as a safety if you aren't IB?

It's worth a spot, unless you've got all 12 filled, in that it's not pointless, but it's not a sure thing. An IB family was initially waitlisted last year. I think there were several sibling enrolleds (not IB) after that family on the waitlist. I don't know how many families they ultimately went through, I'd guess someone (several someones?) out of bounds got in (one or more of the sibling enrolleds certainly did), but it wasn't a ton of spots.

The SWWFS boundary is smaller that it used to be (used to overlap with Ross and OA and Thomson), so there should be a few OOBs in the first round and more after things settle down.

Yes, but it had already shrunk before last year's results (which were based on new boundaries) - which are the ones posted above. So that doesn't really change anything...

Ok, please help me understand the data on this page:

http://dcps.dc.gov/page/my-school-dc-lottery

It looks like 13 with no preference got in in round 1 for PK3 at SWWFS? I realize I might be reading this wrong.

I am looking at SWW@FS for PK3. What I am seeing is that they offered 35 seats in the lottery. 1 went to an in bounds kid with a sibling enrolled and the other 34 went to in bounds kids. I'm not sure where you're getting 13? Are you sure you're looking at the right grade?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:HD Cooke - have friends who are happy with the preschool

Appletree Columbia Heights

Thomson or Cleveland might be worth a slot, if you have them to spare.

Where do you work? You could also put down Capital Hill Montessori at Logan, if one parent works on or near the Hill/Union Station

Thomson's open house wasn't great. The kids basically have recess in a parking garage and for a 3 year old the whole point of life is to play outside. We're going to the Cleveland open house next week. Appletree is out per my comment above. We work in Dupont and Chinatown so the hill unfortunately doesn't work.

But thanks very much, will look into HD Cooke further!

You understand that this is very common for city schools. Playgrounds on the roof top, crossing major roads to the public playground etc.
If you live in DuPont, and not willing to go off of a small range you do not have many options.

FYI - I do not think Cooke is a Safety. I think your best shot is SWW FS since the IB zone is pretty small (WRT residential living with children)

NP here. So do you think SWW FS is worth a spot on the list as a safety if you aren't IB?

It's worth a spot, unless you've got all 12 filled, in that it's not pointless, but it's not a sure thing. An IB family was initially waitlisted last year. I think there were several sibling enrolleds (not IB) after that family on the waitlist. I don't know how many families they ultimately went through, I'd guess someone (several someones?) out of bounds got in (one or more of the sibling enrolleds certainly did), but it wasn't a ton of spots.

The SWWFS boundary is smaller that it used to be (used to overlap with Ross and OA and Thomson), so there should be a few OOBs in the first round and more after things settle down.

Yes, but it had already shrunk before last year's results (which were based on new boundaries) - which are the ones posted above. So that doesn't really change anything...

Ok, please help me understand the data on this page:

http://dcps.dc.gov/page/my-school-dc-lottery

It looks like 13 with no preference got in in round 1 for PK3 at SWWFS? I realize I might be reading this wrong.

No, it's zero for PK3 and PK4 no preference. In PK4 13 got in with inboundary preference, not sure if that was what you were looking at?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:HD Cooke - have friends who are happy with the preschool

Appletree Columbia Heights

Thomson or Cleveland might be worth a slot, if you have them to spare.

Where do you work? You could also put down Capital Hill Montessori at Logan, if one parent works on or near the Hill/Union Station

Thomson's open house wasn't great. The kids basically have recess in a parking garage and for a 3 year old the whole point of life is to play outside. We're going to the Cleveland open house next week. Appletree is out per my comment above. We work in Dupont and Chinatown so the hill unfortunately doesn't work.

But thanks very much, will look into HD Cooke further!

You understand that this is very common for city schools. Playgrounds on the roof top, crossing major roads to the public playground etc.
If you live in DuPont, and not willing to go off of a small range you do not have many options.

FYI - I do not think Cooke is a Safety. I think your best shot is SWW FS since the IB zone is pretty small (WRT residential living with children)

NP here. So do you think SWW FS is worth a spot on the list as a safety if you aren't IB?

It's worth a spot, unless you've got all 12 filled, in that it's not pointless, but it's not a sure thing. An IB family was initially waitlisted last year. I think there were several sibling enrolleds (not IB) after that family on the waitlist. I don't know how many families they ultimately went through, I'd guess someone (several someones?) out of bounds got in (one or more of the sibling enrolleds certainly did), but it wasn't a ton of spots.

The SWWFS boundary is smaller that it used to be (used to overlap with Ross and OA and Thomson), so there should be a few OOBs in the first round and more after things settle down.

Yes, but it had already shrunk before last year's results (which were based on new boundaries) - which are the ones posted above. So that doesn't really change anything...

Ok, please help me understand the data on this page:

http://dcps.dc.gov/page/my-school-dc-lottery

It looks like 13 with no preference got in in round 1 for PK3 at SWWFS? I realize I might be reading this wrong.

I am looking at SWW@FS for PK3. What I am seeing is that they offered 35 seats in the lottery. 1 went to an in bounds kid with a sibling enrolled and the other 34 went to in bounds kids. I'm not sure where you're getting 13? Are you sure you're looking at the right grade?

I had the right grade and school selected, but it doesn't seem to have switched to the right school. I now see the data you see, but only after scrolling down to the SY14-15 data and also selecting grade and school there. That's when the SY15-16 data also changed.

Is there any way to know how many got in in round 2, or by the end of the summer? The way round 1 looks, I guess I will take them off my list, seems like a waste of a spot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:HD Cooke - have friends who are happy with the preschool

Appletree Columbia Heights

Thomson or Cleveland might be worth a slot, if you have them to spare.

Where do you work? You could also put down Capital Hill Montessori at Logan, if one parent works on or near the Hill/Union Station

Thomson's open house wasn't great. The kids basically have recess in a parking garage and for a 3 year old the whole point of life is to play outside. We're going to the Cleveland open house next week. Appletree is out per my comment above. We work in Dupont and Chinatown so the hill unfortunately doesn't work.

But thanks very much, will look into HD Cooke further!

You understand that this is very common for city schools. Playgrounds on the roof top, crossing major roads to the public playground etc.
If you live in DuPont, and not willing to go off of a small range you do not have many options.

FYI - I do not think Cooke is a Safety. I think your best shot is SWW FS since the IB zone is pretty small (WRT residential living with children)

NP here. So do you think SWW FS is worth a spot on the list as a safety if you aren't IB?

It's worth a spot, unless you've got all 12 filled, in that it's not pointless, but it's not a sure thing. An IB family was initially waitlisted last year. I think there were several sibling enrolleds (not IB) after that family on the waitlist. I don't know how many families they ultimately went through, I'd guess someone (several someones?) out of bounds got in (one or more of the sibling enrolleds certainly did), but it wasn't a ton of spots.

The SWWFS boundary is smaller that it used to be (used to overlap with Ross and OA and Thomson), so there should be a few OOBs in the first round and more after things settle down.

Yes, but it had already shrunk before last year's results (which were based on new boundaries) - which are the ones posted above. So that doesn't really change anything...

Ok, please help me understand the data on this page:

http://dcps.dc.gov/page/my-school-dc-lottery

It looks like 13 with no preference got in in round 1 for PK3 at SWWFS? I realize I might be reading this wrong.

I am looking at SWW@FS for PK3. What I am seeing is that they offered 35 seats in the lottery. 1 went to an in bounds kid with a sibling enrolled and the other 34 went to in bounds kids. I'm not sure where you're getting 13? Are you sure you're looking at the right grade?

I had the right grade and school selected, but it doesn't seem to have switched to the right school. I now see the data you see, but only after scrolling down to the SY14-15 data and also selecting grade and school there. That's when the SY15-16 data also changed.

Is there any way to know how many got in in round 2, or by the end of the summer? The way round 1 looks, I guess I will take them off my list, seems like a waste of a spot.

If they filled all their seats in Round 1, the only way a Round 2 person got in is if they had more preferences than all the Round 1 people already on the wait list, or if all those people got in.

You could put them on your list, but honestly, it's probably a waste of a spot. If you have open spots, you can list it, and maybe you will get outrageously lucky and the lists will move, but it's not likely.

Realistically, if you go through the schools, you will see that this has been the case with a lot of them. The concept of "safety" schools is really kind of outdated, at least the idea that there are many in NW. Many schools had in bounds 3 year olds on their waitlists, and almost none of them admitted anyone with no preference at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:HD Cooke - have friends who are happy with the preschool

Appletree Columbia Heights

Thomson or Cleveland might be worth a slot, if you have them to spare.

Where do you work? You could also put down Capital Hill Montessori at Logan, if one parent works on or near the Hill/Union Station

Thomson's open house wasn't great. The kids basically have recess in a parking garage and for a 3 year old the whole point of life is to play outside. We're going to the Cleveland open house next week. Appletree is out per my comment above. We work in Dupont and Chinatown so the hill unfortunately doesn't work.

But thanks very much, will look into HD Cooke further!

You understand that this is very common for city schools. Playgrounds on the roof top, crossing major roads to the public playground etc.
If you live in DuPont, and not willing to go off of a small range you do not have many options.

FYI - I do not think Cooke is a Safety. I think your best shot is SWW FS since the IB zone is pretty small (WRT residential living with children)

NP here. So do you think SWW FS is worth a spot on the list as a safety if you aren't IB?

It's worth a spot, unless you've got all 12 filled, in that it's not pointless, but it's not a sure thing. An IB family was initially waitlisted last year. I think there were several sibling enrolleds (not IB) after that family on the waitlist. I don't know how many families they ultimately went through, I'd guess someone (several someones?) out of bounds got in (one or more of the sibling enrolleds certainly did), but it wasn't a ton of spots.

The SWWFS boundary is smaller that it used to be (used to overlap with Ross and OA and Thomson), so there should be a few OOBs in the first round and more after things settle down.

Yes, but it had already shrunk before last year's results (which were based on new boundaries) - which are the ones posted above. So that doesn't really change anything...

Ok, please help me understand the data on this page:

http://dcps.dc.gov/page/my-school-dc-lottery

It looks like 13 with no preference got in in round 1 for PK3 at SWWFS? I realize I might be reading this wrong.

I am looking at SWW@FS for PK3. What I am seeing is that they offered 35 seats in the lottery. 1 went to an in bounds kid with a sibling enrolled and the other 34 went to in bounds kids. I'm not sure where you're getting 13? Are you sure you're looking at the right grade?

I had the right grade and school selected, but it doesn't seem to have switched to the right school. I now see the data you see, but only after scrolling down to the SY14-15 data and also selecting grade and school there. That's when the SY15-16 data also changed.

Is there any way to know how many got in in round 2, or by the end of the summer? The way round 1 looks, I guess I will take them off my list, seems like a waste of a spot.

If they filled all their seats in Round 1, the only way a Round 2 person got in is if they had more preferences than all the Round 1 people already on the wait list, or if all those people got in.

You could put them on your list, but honestly, it's probably a waste of a spot. If you have open spots, you can list it, and maybe you will get outrageously lucky and the lists will move, but it's not likely.

Realistically, if you go through the schools, you will see that this has been the case with a lot of them. The concept of "safety" schools is really kind of outdated, at least the idea that there are many in NW. Many schools had in bounds 3 year olds on their waitlists, and almost none of them admitted anyone with no preference at all.

Well, now I'm not trusting what I'm seeing on the linked site anymore... Do I see it right if it shows Seaton accepted 13 OOB without preference? I thought Seaton was almost impossible OOB as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:HD Cooke - have friends who are happy with the preschool

Appletree Columbia Heights

Thomson or Cleveland might be worth a slot, if you have them to spare.

Where do you work? You could also put down Capital Hill Montessori at Logan, if one parent works on or near the Hill/Union Station

Thomson's open house wasn't great. The kids basically have recess in a parking garage and for a 3 year old the whole point of life is to play outside. We're going to the Cleveland open house next week. Appletree is out per my comment above. We work in Dupont and Chinatown so the hill unfortunately doesn't work.

But thanks very much, will look into HD Cooke further!

You understand that this is very common for city schools. Playgrounds on the roof top, crossing major roads to the public playground etc.
If you live in DuPont, and not willing to go off of a small range you do not have many options.

FYI - I do not think Cooke is a Safety. I think your best shot is SWW FS since the IB zone is pretty small (WRT residential living with children)

NP here. So do you think SWW FS is worth a spot on the list as a safety if you aren't IB?

It's worth a spot, unless you've got all 12 filled, in that it's not pointless, but it's not a sure thing. An IB family was initially waitlisted last year. I think there were several sibling enrolleds (not IB) after that family on the waitlist. I don't know how many families they ultimately went through, I'd guess someone (several someones?) out of bounds got in (one or more of the sibling enrolleds certainly did), but it wasn't a ton of spots.

The SWWFS boundary is smaller that it used to be (used to overlap with Ross and OA and Thomson), so there should be a few OOBs in the first round and more after things settle down.

Yes, but it had already shrunk before last year's results (which were based on new boundaries) - which are the ones posted above. So that doesn't really change anything...

Ok, please help me understand the data on this page:

http://dcps.dc.gov/page/my-school-dc-lottery

It looks like 13 with no preference got in in round 1 for PK3 at SWWFS? I realize I might be reading this wrong.

I am looking at SWW@FS for PK3. What I am seeing is that they offered 35 seats in the lottery. 1 went to an in bounds kid with a sibling enrolled and the other 34 went to in bounds kids. I'm not sure where you're getting 13? Are you sure you're looking at the right grade?

I had the right grade and school selected, but it doesn't seem to have switched to the right school. I now see the data you see, but only after scrolling down to the SY14-15 data and also selecting grade and school there. That's when the SY15-16 data also changed.

Is there any way to know how many got in in round 2, or by the end of the summer? The way round 1 looks, I guess I will take them off my list, seems like a waste of a spot.

If they filled all their seats in Round 1, the only way a Round 2 person got in is if they had more preferences than all the Round 1 people already on the wait list, or if all those people got in.

You could put them on your list, but honestly, it's probably a waste of a spot. If you have open spots, you can list it, and maybe you will get outrageously lucky and the lists will move, but it's not likely.

Realistically, if you go through the schools, you will see that this has been the case with a lot of them. The concept of "safety" schools is really kind of outdated, at least the idea that there are many in NW. Many schools had in bounds 3 year olds on their waitlists, and almost none of them admitted anyone with no preference at all.

Well, now I'm not trusting what I'm seeing on the linked site anymore... Do I see it right if it shows Seaton accepted 13 OOB without preference? I thought Seaton was almost impossible OOB as well.

No, I think that's correct. Seaton got a big enrollment boost that year, as you can see. It was the popular "hidden gem" school the year before, which resulted in people ranking it and doubling the number of applications. As for the availability of spaces, I think it's really hard to predict this year. We're at HD Cooke and we had zero spaces for out of bounds kids in PK3 last year. There are a lot of families in our neighborhood with young kids who are at least willing to give it a try, which may or may not remain the case.

Best of luck, PP. I wouldn't trade back to the lottery for the world.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:HD Cooke - have friends who are happy with the preschool

Appletree Columbia Heights

Thomson or Cleveland might be worth a slot, if you have them to spare.

Where do you work? You could also put down Capital Hill Montessori at Logan, if one parent works on or near the Hill/Union Station

Thomson's open house wasn't great. The kids basically have recess in a parking garage and for a 3 year old the whole point of life is to play outside. We're going to the Cleveland open house next week. Appletree is out per my comment above. We work in Dupont and Chinatown so the hill unfortunately doesn't work.

But thanks very much, will look into HD Cooke further!

You understand that this is very common for city schools. Playgrounds on the roof top, crossing major roads to the public playground etc.
If you live in DuPont, and not willing to go off of a small range you do not have many options.

FYI - I do not think Cooke is a Safety. I think your best shot is SWW FS since the IB zone is pretty small (WRT residential living with children)

NP here. So do you think SWW FS is worth a spot on the list as a safety if you aren't IB?

It's worth a spot, unless you've got all 12 filled, in that it's not pointless, but it's not a sure thing. An IB family was initially waitlisted last year. I think there were several sibling enrolleds (not IB) after that family on the waitlist. I don't know how many families they ultimately went through, I'd guess someone (several someones?) out of bounds got in (one or more of the sibling enrolleds certainly did), but it wasn't a ton of spots.

The SWWFS boundary is smaller that it used to be (used to overlap with Ross and OA and Thomson), so there should be a few OOBs in the first round and more after things settle down.

Yes, but it had already shrunk before last year's results (which were based on new boundaries) - which are the ones posted above. So that doesn't really change anything...

Ok, please help me understand the data on this page:

http://dcps.dc.gov/page/my-school-dc-lottery

It looks like 13 with no preference got in in round 1 for PK3 at SWWFS? I realize I might be reading this wrong.

I am looking at SWW@FS for PK3. What I am seeing is that they offered 35 seats in the lottery. 1 went to an in bounds kid with a sibling enrolled and the other 34 went to in bounds kids. I'm not sure where you're getting 13? Are you sure you're looking at the right grade?

I had the right grade and school selected, but it doesn't seem to have switched to the right school. I now see the data you see, but only after scrolling down to the SY14-15 data and also selecting grade and school there. That's when the SY15-16 data also changed.

Is there any way to know how many got in in round 2, or by the end of the summer? The way round 1 looks, I guess I will take them off my list, seems like a waste of a spot.

If they filled all their seats in Round 1, the only way a Round 2 person got in is if they had more preferences than all the Round 1 people already on the wait list, or if all those people got in.

You could put them on your list, but honestly, it's probably a waste of a spot. If you have open spots, you can list it, and maybe you will get outrageously lucky and the lists will move, but it's not likely.

Realistically, if you go through the schools, you will see that this has been the case with a lot of them. The concept of "safety" schools is really kind of outdated, at least the idea that there are many in NW. Many schools had in bounds 3 year olds on their waitlists, and almost none of them admitted anyone with no preference at all.

Well, now I'm not trusting what I'm seeing on the linked site anymore... Do I see it right if it shows Seaton accepted 13 OOB without preference? I thought Seaton was almost impossible OOB as well.

No, I think that's correct. Seaton got a big enrollment boost that year, as you can see. It was the popular "hidden gem" school the year before, which resulted in people ranking it and doubling the number of applications. As for the availability of spaces, I think it's really hard to predict this year. We're at HD Cooke and we had zero spaces for out of bounds kids in PK3 last year. There are a lot of families in our neighborhood with young kids who are at least willing to give it a try, which may or may not remain the case.

Best of luck, PP. I wouldn't trade back to the lottery for the world.

Seaton is more popular than it was before. Deservedly so-- great principle, and some great parents are very involved. Also, the baby boom of neighborhood kids is entering K, so that means more siblings in PK3.

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HD Cooke PP here. I agree that Seaton's popularity is well-deserved. I apologize if that did not come across. I hear nothing but great things and am glad to hear that the neighborhood is engaged with the school. That's how it's supposed to work, even when it's sad for folks who now can't get in out of bounds.