If X on SSAT, then ? on HSPT

[Anonymous]

Came across this thread again - I remember reading it this winter and found it interesting as my DC was going through the high school application process and was preparing to take both the HSPT and SSAT. Figured I’d report back and add to the data points. Like many others on this thread, DC felt the SSAT was the harder of the two (slightly).

SSAT (scaled scores):
Verbal: 783
Quantitative: 800
Reading: 760
Total Scaled Score: 2,343

SSAT (percentiles - same grade):
Verbal: 98
Quantitative: 99
Reading: 98
Total Percentile: 99

HSPT (scaled scores):
Verbal Skills: 767
Quantitative Skills: 800
Total Cognitive Skills: 783
Reading: 733
Mathematics: 783
Language: 725
Total Basic Skills: 745
Total Composite: 762

HSPT percentiles were 99% for every component and for overall composite percentile (National percentiles that is - the test results that we received did not show local percentiles, although I’ve read that some versions of the report will show that). At the end of the day, DC got into one school and was WL at one school requiring HSPT, and for schools requiring the SSAT was accepted to one and rejected at one.

[Anonymous]

If 70% on SSAT you can expect 90% on HSPT, provided your kid works quickly. One test is quality over quantity and the other is quantity over quality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Came across this thread again - I remember reading it this winter and found it interesting as my DC was going through the high school application process and was preparing to take both the HSPT and SSAT. Figured I’d report back and add to the data points. Like many others on this thread, DC felt the SSAT was the harder of the two (slightly).

SSAT (scaled scores):
Verbal: 783
Quantitative: 800
Reading: 760
Total Scaled Score: 2,343

SSAT (percentiles - same grade):
Verbal: 98
Quantitative: 99
Reading: 98
Total Percentile: 99

HSPT (scaled scores):
Verbal Skills: 767
Quantitative Skills: 800
Total Cognitive Skills: 783
Reading: 733
Mathematics: 783
Language: 725
Total Basic Skills: 745
Total Composite: 762

HSPT percentiles were 99% for every component and for overall composite percentile (National percentiles that is - the test results that we received did not show local percentiles, although I’ve read that some versions of the report will show that). At the end of the day, DC got into one school and was WL at one school requiring HSPT, and for schools requiring the SSAT was accepted to one and rejected at one.

Wow, congrats - those are phenomenal scores! As a parent of a current 7th grader who will be going through the HS application process in the fall, that's a bit scary if your DC was still WL or rejected at any schools after scoring like that. [Gulp] Congrats on both the scores as well as the acceptances he/she got though!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Came across this thread again - I remember reading it this winter and found it interesting as my DC was going through the high school application process and was preparing to take both the HSPT and SSAT. Figured I’d report back and add to the data points. Like many others on this thread, DC felt the SSAT was the harder of the two (slightly).

SSAT (scaled scores):
Verbal: 783
Quantitative: 800
Reading: 760
Total Scaled Score: 2,343

SSAT (percentiles - same grade):
Verbal: 98
Quantitative: 99
Reading: 98
Total Percentile: 99

HSPT (scaled scores):
Verbal Skills: 767
Quantitative Skills: 800
Total Cognitive Skills: 783
Reading: 733
Mathematics: 783
Language: 725
Total Basic Skills: 745
Total Composite: 762

HSPT percentiles were 99% for every component and for overall composite percentile (National percentiles that is - the test results that we received did not show local percentiles, although I’ve read that some versions of the report will show that). At the end of the day, DC got into one school and was WL at one school requiring HSPT, and for schools requiring the SSAT was accepted to one and rejected at one.

Just curious if your family is Catholic? I know some Catholic high schools favor Catholic students over non-Catholic no matter what their test scores. Did she attend a parish school for MS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Came across this thread again - I remember reading it this winter and found it interesting as my DC was going through the high school application process and was preparing to take both the HSPT and SSAT. Figured I’d report back and add to the data points. Like many others on this thread, DC felt the SSAT was the harder of the two (slightly).

SSAT (scaled scores):
Verbal: 783
Quantitative: 800
Reading: 760
Total Scaled Score: 2,343

SSAT (percentiles - same grade):
Verbal: 98
Quantitative: 99
Reading: 98
Total Percentile: 99

HSPT (scaled scores):
Verbal Skills: 767
Quantitative Skills: 800
Total Cognitive Skills: 783
Reading: 733
Mathematics: 783
Language: 725
Total Basic Skills: 745
Total Composite: 762

HSPT percentiles were 99% for every component and for overall composite percentile (National percentiles that is - the test results that we received did not show local percentiles, although I’ve read that some versions of the report will show that). At the end of the day, DC got into one school and was WL at one school requiring HSPT, and for schools requiring the SSAT was accepted to one and rejected at one.

Wow, congrats - those are phenomenal scores! As a parent of a current 7th grader who will be going through the HS application process in the fall, that's a bit scary if your DC was still WL or rejected at any schools after scoring like that. [Gulp] Congrats on both the scores as well as the acceptances he/she got though!

where will your child be attending in the fall?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Came across this thread again - I remember reading it this winter and found it interesting as my DC was going through the high school application process and was preparing to take both the HSPT and SSAT. Figured I’d report back and add to the data points. Like many others on this thread, DC felt the SSAT was the harder of the two (slightly).

SSAT (scaled scores):
Verbal: 783
Quantitative: 800
Reading: 760
Total Scaled Score: 2,343

SSAT (percentiles - same grade):
Verbal: 98
Quantitative: 99
Reading: 98
Total Percentile: 99

HSPT (scaled scores):
Verbal Skills: 767
Quantitative Skills: 800
Total Cognitive Skills: 783
Reading: 733
Mathematics: 783
Language: 725
Total Basic Skills: 745
Total Composite: 762

HSPT percentiles were 99% for every component and for overall composite percentile (National percentiles that is - the test results that we received did not show local percentiles, although I’ve read that some versions of the report will show that). At the end of the day, DC got into one school and was WL at one school requiring HSPT, and for schools requiring the SSAT was accepted to one and rejected at one.

Just curious if your family is Catholic? I know some Catholic high schools favor Catholic students over non-Catholic no matter what their test scores. Did she attend a parish school for MS?

Yes, we are Catholic, although DC did not attend a parochial MS. DC has straight As through middle school, and pretty strong recs from teachers, but is not a terribly strong athlete so no athletic hooks anywhere (and no sibling or legacy connections either).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The HSPT is an easier test so most kids will score higher, percentage wise, on the HSPT. There isn't a strong correlation, though, IME.

BS - I fell for that last year. The grammar is killer. And if you did not go to a Catholic school, everything is just presented differently.

[Anonymous]

My kid said the SSAT was much easier because the HSPT is not hard material, but a race against the clock (which is pointless to DC).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid said the SSAT was much easier because the HSPT is not hard material, but a race against the clock (which is pointless to DC).

I'm a PP on this thread - My child said the same. She had accommodations (1.5 extra time) for each test and still didn't finish some of the HSPT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Came across this thread again - I remember reading it this winter and found it interesting as my DC was going through the high school application process and was preparing to take both the HSPT and SSAT. Figured I’d report back and add to the data points. Like many others on this thread, DC felt the SSAT was the harder of the two (slightly).

SSAT (scaled scores):
Verbal: 783
Quantitative: 800
Reading: 760
Total Scaled Score: 2,343

SSAT (percentiles - same grade):
Verbal: 98
Quantitative: 99
Reading: 98
Total Percentile: 99

HSPT (scaled scores):
Verbal Skills: 767
Quantitative Skills: 800
Total Cognitive Skills: 783
Reading: 733
Mathematics: 783
Language: 725
Total Basic Skills: 745
Total Composite: 762

HSPT percentiles were 99% for every component and for overall composite percentile (National percentiles that is - the test results that we received did not show local percentiles, although I’ve read that some versions of the report will show that). At the end of the day, DC got into one school and was WL at one school requiring HSPT, and for schools requiring the SSAT was accepted to one and rejected at one.

Great scores! Can I ask if your DC got any merit scholarships? I believe the Catholic high schools offer some merit awards, particularly the coed ones. I’ve heard that some base it on the overall percentile on the HSPT but others base it on the CSQ score (typically a minimum of 130 or 135 to qualify for scholarship, although I didn’t see the CSQ score on my DD’s score report just the percentile??). My DD scored higher on the CSQ portion (95th percentile) than overall composite score (93rd percentile) - was thinking she might get offered some merit scholarship based on the CSQ but alas it was not the case...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Came across this thread again - I remember reading it this winter and found it interesting as my DC was going through the high school application process and was preparing to take both the HSPT and SSAT. Figured I’d report back and add to the data points. Like many others on this thread, DC felt the SSAT was the harder of the two (slightly).

SSAT (scaled scores):
Verbal: 783
Quantitative: 800
Reading: 760
Total Scaled Score: 2,343

SSAT (percentiles - same grade):
Verbal: 98
Quantitative: 99
Reading: 98
Total Percentile: 99

HSPT (scaled scores):
Verbal Skills: 767
Quantitative Skills: 800
Total Cognitive Skills: 783
Reading: 733
Mathematics: 783
Language: 725
Total Basic Skills: 745
Total Composite: 762

HSPT percentiles were 99% for every component and for overall composite percentile (National percentiles that is - the test results that we received did not show local percentiles, although I’ve read that some versions of the report will show that). At the end of the day, DC got into one school and was WL at one school requiring HSPT, and for schools requiring the SSAT was accepted to one and rejected at one.

Great scores! Can I ask if your DC got any merit scholarships? I believe the Catholic high schools offer some merit awards, particularly the coed ones. I’ve heard that some base it on the overall percentile on the HSPT but others base it on the CSQ score (typically a minimum of 130 or 135 to qualify for scholarship, although I didn’t see the CSQ score on my DD’s score report just the percentile??). My DD scored higher on the CSQ portion (95th percentile) than overall composite score (93rd percentile) - was thinking she might get offered some merit scholarship based on the CSQ but alas it was not the case...

I'm not the SSAT poster above but my DD got 99% overall (CMP) on HSPT and got $2,500 annually from Visi and $5,000 annually from SR. She got a 91% on TCS (she bombed Quant) but I didn't see a CSQ anywhere on her score report.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Came across this thread again - I remember reading it this winter and found it interesting as my DC was going through the high school application process and was preparing to take both the HSPT and SSAT. Figured I’d report back and add to the data points. Like many others on this thread, DC felt the SSAT was the harder of the two (slightly).

SSAT (scaled scores):
Verbal: 783
Quantitative: 800
Reading: 760
Total Scaled Score: 2,343

SSAT (percentiles - same grade):
Verbal: 98
Quantitative: 99
Reading: 98
Total Percentile: 99

HSPT (scaled scores):
Verbal Skills: 767
Quantitative Skills: 800
Total Cognitive Skills: 783
Reading: 733
Mathematics: 783
Language: 725
Total Basic Skills: 745
Total Composite: 762

HSPT percentiles were 99% for every component and for overall composite percentile (National percentiles that is - the test results that we received did not show local percentiles, although I’ve read that some versions of the report will show that). At the end of the day, DC got into one school and was WL at one school requiring HSPT, and for schools requiring the SSAT was accepted to one and rejected at one.

Great scores! Can I ask if your DC got any merit scholarships? I believe the Catholic high schools offer some merit awards, particularly the coed ones. I’ve heard that some base it on the overall percentile on the HSPT but others base it on the CSQ score (typically a minimum of 130 or 135 to qualify for scholarship, although I didn’t see the CSQ score on my DD’s score report just the percentile??). My DD scored higher on the CSQ portion (95th percentile) than overall composite score (93rd percentile) - was thinking she might get offered some merit scholarship based on the CSQ but alas it was not the case...

Thanks, and congrats to your daughter as well - those are good scores, whether there is scholarship entailed or not! To answer your question, yes my DC got a $7,500/year merit award at one of the Diocesan high schools in VA, based on scoring in the 99th percentile on the HSPT. A lot of DC's friends will be at that school and they offer a great curriculum, so DC was already very excited about it - between the Catholic discount and the merit award it sealed the deal for us.

You also raise an interesting question about the CSQ (sometimes called the Total Cognitive Score, or TCS). I'm actually not sure if schools generally go off of the CSQ/TCS or off of the composite percentile when making those scholarship decisions. Our DC's score report didn't show the raw CSQ score that you referenced, just the scaled score (783) and the percentile (99). I think another poster on a different HSPT-related thread put out a link to a helpful conversion table a while back - I'll try to find that. It shows how each scaled score relates to each raw CSQ score and to each associated stanine. You could probably back into what the raw CSQ score was from the scaled score on the report, and then you'll see if your DD was close to that 130 or 135 range.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Came across this thread again - I remember reading it this winter and found it interesting as my DC was going through the high school application process and was preparing to take both the HSPT and SSAT. Figured I’d report back and add to the data points. Like many others on this thread, DC felt the SSAT was the harder of the two (slightly).

SSAT (scaled scores):
Verbal: 783
Quantitative: 800
Reading: 760
Total Scaled Score: 2,343

SSAT (percentiles - same grade):
Verbal: 98
Quantitative: 99
Reading: 98
Total Percentile: 99

HSPT (scaled scores):
Verbal Skills: 767
Quantitative Skills: 800
Total Cognitive Skills: 783
Reading: 733
Mathematics: 783
Language: 725
Total Basic Skills: 745
Total Composite: 762

HSPT percentiles were 99% for every component and for overall composite percentile (National percentiles that is - the test results that we received did not show local percentiles, although I’ve read that some versions of the report will show that). At the end of the day, DC got into one school and was WL at one school requiring HSPT, and for schools requiring the SSAT was accepted to one and rejected at one.

Great scores! Can I ask if your DC got any merit scholarships? I believe the Catholic high schools offer some merit awards, particularly the coed ones. I’ve heard that some base it on the overall percentile on the HSPT but others base it on the CSQ score (typically a minimum of 130 or 135 to qualify for scholarship, although I didn’t see the CSQ score on my DD’s score report just the percentile??). My DD scored higher on the CSQ portion (95th percentile) than overall composite score (93rd percentile) - was thinking she might get offered some merit scholarship based on the CSQ but alas it was not the case...

Thanks, and congrats to your daughter as well - those are good scores, whether there is scholarship entailed or not! To answer your question, yes my DC got a $7,500/year merit award at one of the Diocesan high schools in VA, based on scoring in the 99th percentile on the HSPT. A lot of DC's friends will be at that school and they offer a great curriculum, so DC was already very excited about it - between the Catholic discount and the merit award it sealed the deal for us.

You also raise an interesting question about the CSQ (sometimes called the Total Cognitive Score, or TCS). I'm actually not sure if schools generally go off of the CSQ/TCS or off of the composite percentile when making those scholarship decisions. Our DC's score report didn't show the raw CSQ score that you referenced, just the scaled score (783) and the percentile (99). I think another poster on a different HSPT-related thread put out a link to a helpful conversion table a while back - I'll try to find that. It shows how each scaled score relates to each raw CSQ score and to each associated stanine. You could probably back into what the raw CSQ score was from the scaled score on the report, and then you'll see if your DD was close to that 130 or 135 range.

Found it - here is the link I mentioned above. The raw or standard CSQ scores are in the left column, and the scaled scores that show up on the HSPT score report are in the column labeled "ETS Score."

https://www.ritenour.k12.mo.us/cms/lib011/MO01910124/Centricity/Domain/69/Psychometric_Conversion_Table.pdf