US Soccer age changes - what are the area leagues doing? are all the kids moving up? u11-u13

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:and this is the best part of it

Odds of a high school athlete playing College Soccer * Men Women

Number of High School Soccer players 417,419 374,564
Number of College Soccer players 37,890 37,760
% of High School players competing in College 9.1% 10.1%


So does this shift in age really matter? There are 4 pages of posts on this. Let's say 25 people have been the ones creating the 4 pages. 2 of them will have their child play in college.

In our house, both parents were Division 1 soccer players so I don't pay attention to odds. I also don't even think about the prospect of college play with a 7 and 10-year ild . They play now because they LOVE it. That's it.

[Anonymous]

I think what they've done here is awful for those kids currently in high school. The rest of them have time to recover.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So My U16 1999 born player will play U18 next year and will lose a year of eligibility then? That's crazy - he will skip right over U17 at a critical time for college recruiting. Are the leagues going to go up to the U19/U20 range to deal with HS kids then? He's a sophomore this year, so he'd be U18 as a HS Junior, then U19 as a HS Senior? Or am I reading the chart incorrectly?

Have him play at the age he is supposed to be playing in. No need to have him play up a year. Our daughter will play another year of the age group she currently is in. not a big issue.

He's not playing up. According to US Soccer, player born in 1999 will be a U18 in the 2016-17 season and a U19 in 2017-18.

See http://www.soccerwire.com/news/clubs/which-year-determines-your-age-group-youth-soccer-organizations-move-to-clarify/

I am a new "1999 son poster," but am I correct that my 1999 son would be a U18 in a U.S. Soccer club next year (2016-2017), but on an Academy team he would be U17 next year?? I guess it is just semantics, but seems strange and confusing....

[Anonymous]

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I am a new "1999 son poster," but am I correct that my 1999 son would be a U18 in a U.S. Soccer club next year (2016-2017), but on an Academy team he would be U17 next year?? I guess it is just semantics, but seems strange and confusing....

Development Academy teams at the older age groups are arranged in two year bands, so there' a U 18 team and a U16 team, but no U17 one. Your son would be on the U18 team next year and the year after if they keep the current age groupings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I am a new "1999 son poster," but am I correct that my 1999 son would be a U18 in a U.S. Soccer club next year (2016-2017), but on an Academy team he would be U17 next year?? I guess it is just semantics, but seems strange and confusing....

Development Academy teams at the older age groups are arranged in two year bands, so there' a U 18 team and a U16 team, but no U17 one. Your son would be on the U18 team next year and the year after if they keep the current age groupings.

They probably won't, but they have other ways to do it. The top group might be U19 in 2017-18.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:and this is the best part of it

Odds of a high school athlete playing College Soccer * Men Women

Number of High School Soccer players 417,419 374,564
Number of College Soccer players 37,890 37,760
% of High School players competing in College 9.1% 10.1%


So does this shift in age really matter? There are 4 pages of posts on this. Let's say 25 people have been the ones creating the 4 pages. 2 of them will have their child play in college.

In our house, both parents were Division 1 soccer players so I don't pay attention to odds. I also don't even think about the prospect of college play with a 7 and 10-year ild . They play now because they LOVE it. That's it.

you are not like most of them on here who think they have it all sized up. I see it every week and it is rather sad. I often chime in asking some stupid question about the game that I already know but it just gets those parents going more and more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I am a new "1999 son poster," but am I correct that my 1999 son would be a U18 in a U.S. Soccer club next year (2016-2017), but on an Academy team he would be U17 next year?? I guess it is just semantics, but seems strange and confusing....

Development Academy teams at the older age groups are arranged in two year bands, so there' a U 18 team and a U16 team, but no U17 one. Your son would be on the U18 team next year and the year after if they keep the current age groupings.

Thanks. So next year (2016-17), a 2002 would play U15 Club team and U13/U14 Academy?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I am a new "1999 son poster," but am I correct that my 1999 son would be a U18 in a U.S. Soccer club next year (2016-2017), but on an Academy team he would be U17 next year?? I guess it is just semantics, but seems strange and confusing....

Development Academy teams at the older age groups are arranged in two year bands, so there' a U 18 team and a U16 team, but no U17 one. Your son would be on the U18 team next year and the year after if they keep the current age groupings.

Thanks. So next year (2016-17), a 2002 would play U15 Club team and U13/U14 Academy?

For next year, the Development Academy is adding a U12 age group and splitting the U13/U14 age group into two separate years (http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2015/10/16/13/30/151016-academy-to-launch-u12-program-in-2016). A 2002 will play U14 next year for DA. On a non-DA club team, the current US Soccer charts do indicate that he would play U15, but I'm not convinced there won't be more revisions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:and this is the best part of it

Odds of a high school athlete playing College Soccer * Men Women

Number of High School Soccer players 417,419 374,564
Number of College Soccer players 37,890 37,760
% of High School players competing in College 9.1% 10.1%


So does this shift in age really matter? There are 4 pages of posts on this. Let's say 25 people have been the ones creating the 4 pages. 2 of them will have their child play in college.

In our house, both parents were Division 1 soccer players so I don't pay attention to odds. I also don't even think about the prospect of college play with a 7 and 10-year ild . They play now because they LOVE it. That's it.

you are not like most of them on here who think they have it all sized up. I see it every week and it is rather sad. I often chime in asking some stupid question about the game that I already know but it just gets those parents going more and more.

Different poster, but I'm genuinely surprised by posts like yours claiming that many or most soccer parents think their elementary school aged child will end up playing in college with or without a sports scholarship. Out of the hundreds of soccer parents I've met through my 3 kids' years playing soccer I can think of maybe two people (outside of the DA or ECNL scene) who thought of travel soccer as something likely to lead to a college scholarship. Certainly you haven't heard anything like that from most DCUM posters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I am a new "1999 son poster," but am I correct that my 1999 son would be a U18 in a U.S. Soccer club next year (2016-2017), but on an Academy team he would be U17 next year?? I guess it is just semantics, but seems strange and confusing....

Development Academy teams at the older age groups are arranged in two year bands, so there' a U 18 team and a U16 team, but no U17 one. Your son would be on the U18 team next year and the year after if they keep the current age groupings.

Thanks. So next year (2016-17), a 2002 would play U15 Club team and U13/U14 Academy?

For next year, the Development Academy is adding a U12 age group and splitting the U13/U14 age group into two separate years (http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2015/10/16/13/30/151016-academy-to-launch-u12-program-in-2016). A 2002 will play U14 next year for DA. On a non-DA club team, the current US Soccer charts do indicate that he would play U15, but I'm not convinced there won't be more revisions.

Well-- what will be U-12 in the Fall??? According to their charts it's birth year 2005. My November 2005 will still be 10 at the start of the 2016 season.

Do they mean "true' U-12' as in 11-year olds the old school way or the new mandate where U-12s can still be 2 years younger than 12?

U.S. Since needs to get their terminology consistent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I am a new "1999 son poster," but am I correct that my 1999 son would be a U18 in a U.S. Soccer club next year (2016-2017), but on an Academy team he would be U17 next year?? I guess it is just semantics, but seems strange and confusing....

Development Academy teams at the older age groups are arranged in two year bands, so there' a U 18 team and a U16 team, but no U17 one. Your son would be on the U18 team next year and the year after if they keep the current age groupings.

Thanks. So next year (2016-17), a 2002 would play U15 Club team and U13/U14 Academy?

For next year, the Development Academy is adding a U12 age group and splitting the U13/U14 age group into two separate years (http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2015/10/16/13/30/151016-academy-to-launch-u12-program-in-2016). A 2002 will play U14 next year for DA. On a non-DA club team, the current US Soccer charts do indicate that he would play U15, but I'm not convinced there won't be more revisions.

Well-- what will be U-12 in the Fall??? According to their charts it's birth year 2005. My November 2005 will still be 10 at the start of the 2016 season.

Do they mean "true' U-12' as in 11-year olds the old school way or the new mandate where U-12s can still be 2 years younger than 12?

U.S. Since needs to get their terminology consistent.

Like I said above, I think there may be some more revisions to the age group charts before too long, or at least more of an explanation of which charts apply to which leagues. As it stands, unless they change the rules for the Development Academy age groups, it looks like birth year 2004 age kids will play U12 DA. A talented 2005 might be invited to play up on the U12 DA team, but otherwise he'd have a shot at entering the program in the Fall of 2017. See page 9 of the first link below, which is the rollout document US Soccer put out Oct. 16 on the U12 expansion.

If kids are not playing DA, then I guess the chart on the main US Soccer page (second link below) governs, so a 2004 would be playing U13 and a 2005 would be playing U12. I'm not clear on why they wouldn't just have the other leagues follow the DA groupings. Hopefully this will all be made clear at some point.

https://ussoccer.app.box.com/s/c2813mqbav1plmjtn7q66mztxeqox8vy
http://www.ussoccer.com/coaching-education/resources/2015-player-development-initiatives

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:and this is the best part of it

Odds of a high school athlete playing College Soccer * Men Women

Number of High School Soccer players 417,419 374,564
Number of College Soccer players 37,890 37,760
% of High School players competing in College 9.1% 10.1%


So does this shift in age really matter? There are 4 pages of posts on this. Let's say 25 people have been the ones creating the 4 pages. 2 of them will have their child play in college.

In our house, both parents were Division 1 soccer players so I don't pay attention to odds. I also don't even think about the prospect of college play with a 7 and 10-year ild . They play now because they LOVE it. That's it.

you are not like most of them on here who think they have it all sized up. I see it every week and it is rather sad. I often chime in asking some stupid question about the game that I already know but it just gets those parents going more and more.

Different poster, but I'm genuinely surprised by posts like yours claiming that many or most soccer parents think their elementary school aged child will end up playing in college with or without a sports scholarship. Out of the hundreds of soccer parents I've met through my 3 kids' years playing soccer I can think of maybe two people (outside of the DA or ECNL scene) who thought of travel soccer as something likely to lead to a college scholarship. Certainly you haven't heard anything like that from most DCUM posters.

Same here. I've been around club/travel soccer for years and my ratio is about the same. At this point I just don't believe it when people claim lots of parents are planning on college scholarships for their kids. If anything, I hear people ever talking about how their kids can go to college without playing college soccer, but even that's rare.

[Anonymous]

bump.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:bump.

Why bump? Question?

DC Stoddert is moving all teams to the new age brackets.

WAGS rejected a proposal that would limit the number of players "playing up" - that tells me that there are a lot of teams that may move teams up with the older players and have others play up with them.

I am speculating, but would guess the decisions will be different for clubs, who can afford to shuffle folks around, and teams that aren't formally part of a club where they want to keep the team together.

[Anonymous]

Looks like Arlington has come out with a fairly strong policy against playing up. Players must get permission from Age Group Director to even attend an older group tryout and no one plays up unless the technical staff determines the player's "developmental needs won't be met within their own age group."