US Soccer age changes - what are the area leagues doing? are all the kids moving up? u11-u13

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't really like the classmate argument for Travel unless those same classmates have all been able to develop at the same rate and are of similar talent. It can be done but not always the case. The individual player that is driven will themselves want to be with the better talent to help him/her get better. Eventually the "friend" argument is no longer applicable. Rec is always available.

Which is one reason why rec should stay on grade-year.

At elite levels, sure -- go to birth year. Not sure it's really necessary for U9/U10 travel, which is kind of a joke, but whatever.

[Anonymous]

it can but it doesn't have to stay at grade-year because kids can play up and stay together. It does make sense for rec to also be at birth year so that players can develop with the same aged players for which they will be playing with or against when making the change to travel. I think it also makes the transition easier for parents to understand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:it can but it doesn't have to stay at grade-year because kids can play up and stay together. It does make sense for rec to also be at birth year so that players can develop with the same aged players for which they will be playing with or against when making the change to travel. I think it also makes the transition easier for parents to understand.

Rec isn't about development, so no it is not necessary for Rec to follow along with the birth year mandate. Rec is for playing soccer with your friends and having fun in a competitive environment but it is not part of any particular development path or model that necessitates a club to do anything that unnecessarily disrupts an enjoyable playing experience for their program members.

[Anonymous]

the rules for all sports should age year not grade. its simple 10 year olds with 10 year olds. thats the most even playing field . i don't want to hear anything about kids in my kids class rec. should be fun blah blah blah. all of our kids have friends outside their classroom. why not in sports too? if you want to make rec just for fun open it to any friends who want to play together 10 yo 12 yo 15 yo why not have them all on the same team for fun? Save that mentallity for backyard games. let kids in organized sports compete with the same age kids. besides this rule will be an afterthought in in a few year and everyone will be fine all youth sports will continue to be played and so on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:the rules for all sports should age year not grade. its simple 10 year olds with 10 year olds. thats the most even playing field . i don't want to hear anything about kids in my kids class rec. should be fun blah blah blah. all of our kids have friends outside their classroom. why not in sports too? if you want to make rec just for fun open it to any friends who want to play together 10 yo 12 yo 15 yo why not have them all on the same team for fun? Save that mentallity for backyard games. let kids in organized sports compete with the same age kids. besides this rule will be an afterthought in in a few year and everyone will be fine all youth sports will continue to be played and so on.

Yep.

My kid that started K on time has many classmates that are 18 months-2 years older.

Ridiculous on the playing field. I love when they go to travel and finally have to compete true to age. They are way behind.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:the rules for all sports should age year not grade. its simple 10 year olds with 10 year olds. thats the most even playing field . i don't want to hear anything about kids in my kids class rec. should be fun blah blah blah. all of our kids have friends outside their classroom. why not in sports too? if you want to make rec just for fun open it to any friends who want to play together 10 yo 12 yo 15 yo why not have them all on the same team for fun? Save that mentallity for backyard games. let kids in organized sports compete with the same age kids. besides this rule will be an afterthought in in a few year and everyone will be fine all youth sports will continue to be played and so on.

Yep.

My kid that started K on time has many classmates that are 18 months-2 years older.

Ridiculous on the playing field. I love when they go to travel and finally have to compete true to age. They are way behind.

I don't understand what either of you is talking about.

Currently in Rec, and in Travel, no one has to play with someone who is more than a year older. If you are an August or September kid you can choose to play up with your classmates, but you don't have to. And a kid who started kindergarten at age 7 (I find it hard to believe there are any of these) would have to play in his own age group with first/second graders.

And under the new calendar year age cutoff 10-year-olds aren't with 10-year-olds any more than they were under the old system. A kid born Dec. 31 can be playing with a kid who is 364 days older than him. The cutoff just means Oct-Nov-Dec kids are disadvantaged, versus May-June-July kids under the old cutoff. Or are you proposing that they have a system, like in year-round swimming, where the day a child turns 11, he has to move up an age group? That would be most equitable but isn't really practical in a team sport like soccer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:the rules for all sports should age year not grade. its simple 10 year olds with 10 year olds. thats the most even playing field . i don't want to hear anything about kids in my kids class rec. should be fun blah blah blah. all of our kids have friends outside their classroom. why not in sports too? if you want to make rec just for fun open it to any friends who want to play together 10 yo 12 yo 15 yo why not have them all on the same team for fun? Save that mentallity for backyard games. let kids in organized sports compete with the same age kids. besides this rule will be an afterthought in in a few year and everyone will be fine all youth sports will continue to be played and so on.

Then the choice is simple, if you want you kid to play birth year, play travel. You have a choice. But under both age cutoffs, your 10 year old was always playing with 10 year olds the only difference is if your kid is relatively older or younger based on the cutoff.

[Anonymous]

birth year is perfect for all sports any level the cutoff is 12-31 which is when the actually year ends keep it simple and standard . the september /august cutoff is the same however not as simple and standard. like was stated before the grade aging is a travesty because of the various ages through out a single grade. I personally can't wait for 4 years from now when birth year has been standard and in place and no more crying about ist

[Anonymous]

18:28 - but this isn't the same thing, given that many kids start playing soccer on a school team. Say you have two kids born in 2008, one in August, one in October. The kid with the August birthday went to kindergarten a year earlier. He had his two kindergarten seasons, his two first grade seasons AND his two second grade seasons before he tried out for U9 travel soccer.

The kid with the october birthday had to wait a year to go to kindergarten and play rec soccer with his classmates. He has 2 kindergarten seasons and 2 first grade seasons before he has to try out for U9 travel soccer.

Almost none of the kids I know with late 2008 birthdays made travel this year, vs. many kids with earlier 2008 birthdays who have a full year more experience.

Plus the 1st grade kids haven't played with the 2nd grade kids before. They haven't played goalie or played on a team that kept score. They're at a real disadvantage. Plus they're up to 11 months younger than the other kids, and maybe smaller and less coordinated.

My kid is a late 2008 birthday who squeaked into travel, but she would have been a lot better off had she had an extra two seasons like the rest of the kids on her team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:18:28 - but this isn't the same thing, given that many kids start playing soccer on a school team. Say you have two kids born in 2008, one in August, one in October. The kid with the August birthday went to kindergarten a year earlier. He had his two kindergarten seasons, his two first grade seasons AND his two second grade seasons before he tried out for U9 travel soccer.

The kid with the october birthday had to wait a year to go to kindergarten and play rec soccer with his classmates. He has 2 kindergarten seasons and 2 first grade seasons before he has to try out for U9 travel soccer.

Almost none of the kids I know with late 2008 birthdays made travel this year, vs. many kids with earlier 2008 birthdays who have a full year more experience.

Plus the 1st grade kids haven't played with the 2nd grade kids before. They haven't played goalie or played on a team that kept score. They're at a real disadvantage. Plus they're up to 11 months younger than the other kids, and maybe smaller and less coordinated.

My kid is a late 2008 birthday who squeaked into travel, but she would have been a lot better off had she had an extra two seasons like the rest of the kids on her team.

Simmer down....being "left out" or "behind" a year in kindergarten soccer is not going to impact your child's development at this level. The age mandate is not going to significantly impact anyone's soccer development.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:18:28 - but this isn't the same thing, given that many kids start playing soccer on a school team. Say you have two kids born in 2008, one in August, one in October. The kid with the August birthday went to kindergarten a year earlier. He had his two kindergarten seasons, his two first grade seasons AND his two second grade seasons before he tried out for U9 travel soccer.

The kid with the october birthday had to wait a year to go to kindergarten and play rec soccer with his classmates. He has 2 kindergarten seasons and 2 first grade seasons before he has to try out for U9 travel soccer.

Almost none of the kids I know with late 2008 birthdays made travel this year, vs. many kids with earlier 2008 birthdays who have a full year more experience.

Plus the 1st grade kids haven't played with the 2nd grade kids before. They haven't played goalie or played on a team that kept score. They're at a real disadvantage. Plus they're up to 11 months younger than the other kids, and maybe smaller and less coordinated.

My kid is a late 2008 birthday who squeaked into travel, but she would have been a lot better off had she had an extra two seasons like the rest of the kids on her team.

your kid could have played up in kindergarten and every year till they got to travel.. as a matter of fact i know a most of BRYCs u9 travel team were all playing up this year including a few 7 yr olds on their 3rd team so your kid could have played up to play travel as well same is the case at arlington and Loudon where my neighbor plays.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:18:28 - but this isn't the same thing, given that many kids start playing soccer on a school team. Say you have two kids born in 2008, one in August, one in October. The kid with the August birthday went to kindergarten a year earlier. He had his two kindergarten seasons, his two first grade seasons AND his two second grade seasons before he tried out for U9 travel soccer.

The kid with the october birthday had to wait a year to go to kindergarten and play rec soccer with his classmates. He has 2 kindergarten seasons and 2 first grade seasons before he has to try out for U9 travel soccer.

Almost none of the kids I know with late 2008 birthdays made travel this year, vs. many kids with earlier 2008 birthdays who have a full year more experience.

Plus the 1st grade kids haven't played with the 2nd grade kids before. They haven't played goalie or played on a team that kept score. They're at a real disadvantage. Plus they're up to 11 months younger than the other kids, and maybe smaller and less coordinated.

My kid is a late 2008 birthday who squeaked into travel, but she would have been a lot better off had she had an extra two seasons like the rest of the kids on her team.

your kid could have played up in kindergarten and every year till they got to travel.. as a matter of fact i know a most of BRYCs u9 travel team were all playing up this year including a few 7 yr olds on their 3rd team so your kid could have played up to play travel as well same is the case at arlington and Loudon where my neighbor plays.

BRYC will take anyone's money at U9-U10.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:18:28 - but this isn't the same thing, given that many kids start playing soccer on a school team. Say you have two kids born in 2008, one in August, one in October. The kid with the August birthday went to kindergarten a year earlier. He had his two kindergarten seasons, his two first grade seasons AND his two second grade seasons before he tried out for U9 travel soccer.

The kid with the october birthday had to wait a year to go to kindergarten and play rec soccer with his classmates. He has 2 kindergarten seasons and 2 first grade seasons before he has to try out for U9 travel soccer.

Almost none of the kids I know with late 2008 birthdays made travel this year, vs. many kids with earlier 2008 birthdays who have a full year more experience.

Plus the 1st grade kids haven't played with the 2nd grade kids before. They haven't played goalie or played on a team that kept score. They're at a real disadvantage. Plus they're up to 11 months younger than the other kids, and maybe smaller and less coordinated.

My kid is a late 2008 birthday who squeaked into travel, but she would have been a lot better off had she had an extra two seasons like the rest of the kids on her team.

your kid could have played up in kindergarten and every year till they got to travel.. as a matter of fact i know a most of BRYCs u9 travel team were all playing up this year including a few 7 yr olds on their 3rd team so your kid could have played up to play travel as well same is the case at arlington and Loudon where my neighbor plays.

BRYC will take anyone's money at U9-U10.

+100. I also believe those kids playing up would have been better off playing rec with kids their own age.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
18:28 - but this isn't the same thing, given that many kids start playing soccer on a school team. Say you have two kids born in 2008, one in August, one in October. The kid with the August birthday went to kindergarten a year earlier. He had his two kindergarten seasons, his two first grade seasons AND his two second grade seasons before he tried out for U9 travel soccer.

The kid with the october birthday had to wait a year to go to kindergarten and play rec soccer with his classmates. He has 2 kindergarten seasons and 2 first grade seasons before he has to try out for U9 travel soccer.

Almost none of the kids I know with late 2008 birthdays made travel this year, vs. many kids with earlier 2008 birthdays who have a full year more experience.

Plus the 1st grade kids haven't played with the 2nd grade kids before. They haven't played goalie or played on a team that kept score. They're at a real disadvantage. Plus they're up to 11 months younger than the other kids, and maybe smaller and less coordinated.

My kid is a late 2008 birthday who squeaked into travel, but she would have been a lot better off had she had an extra two seasons like the rest of the kids on her team.



your kid could have played up in kindergarten and every year till they got to travel.. as a matter of fact i know a most of BRYCs u9 travel team were all playing up this year including a few 7 yr olds on their 3rd team so your kid could have played up to play travel as well same is the case at arlington and Loudon where my neighbor plays.


BRYC will take anyone's money at U9-U10.


+100. I also believe those kids playing up would have been better off playing rec with kids their own age.


Not PP but how do you know they would be better playing rec? Have you seen them play? Do you know what stage of their development they are in? Do you know if these are kids are committed to the game on a daily basis and want to improve and be challenged instead of running up the score 15-1 in rec. Do you know how they are being coached? Some kids are ready to play and others aren't. Kids need to be challenged if they want to improve. Maybe reason why playing up in Travel. If on BRYC's 3rd team unlikely that they were 7 since ODSL and NCSL have rules about being able to play prior to turning 8.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
18:28 - but this isn't the same thing, given that many kids start playing soccer on a school team. Say you have two kids born in 2008, one in August, one in October. The kid with the August birthday went to kindergarten a year earlier. He had his two kindergarten seasons, his two first grade seasons AND his two second grade seasons before he tried out for U9 travel soccer.

The kid with the october birthday had to wait a year to go to kindergarten and play rec soccer with his classmates. He has 2 kindergarten seasons and 2 first grade seasons before he has to try out for U9 travel soccer.

Almost none of the kids I know with late 2008 birthdays made travel this year, vs. many kids with earlier 2008 birthdays who have a full year more experience.

Plus the 1st grade kids haven't played with the 2nd grade kids before. They haven't played goalie or played on a team that kept score. They're at a real disadvantage. Plus they're up to 11 months younger than the other kids, and maybe smaller and less coordinated.

My kid is a late 2008 birthday who squeaked into travel, but she would have been a lot better off had she had an extra two seasons like the rest of the kids on her team.



your kid could have played up in kindergarten and every year till they got to travel.. as a matter of fact i know a most of BRYCs u9 travel team were all playing up this year including a few 7 yr olds on their 3rd team so your kid could have played up to play travel as well same is the case at arlington and Loudon where my neighbor plays.


BRYC will take anyone's money at U9-U10.


+100. I also believe those kids playing up would have been better off playing rec with kids their own age.


Not PP but how do you know they would be better playing rec? Have you seen them play? Do you know what stage of their development they are in? Do you know if these are kids are committed to the game on a daily basis and want to improve and be challenged instead of running up the score 15-1 in rec. Do you know how they are being coached? Some kids are ready to play and others aren't. Kids need to be challenged if they want to improve. Maybe reason why playing up in Travel. If on BRYC's 3rd team unlikely that they were 7 since ODSL and NCSL have rules about being able to play prior to turning 8.

BRYC's third team was in CCL2. I don't know whether CCL has such an age group. I know that several of the kids playing up were just siblings of older kids on the team, not there because they are exceptionally good. With the advent of CCL2, BRYC's academy could now field three teams, and it was happy to take the money.