Hardy 6th = 35% feeder school kids

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Anonymous wrote:There's no reason to use the search feature. That history, from half a decade ago, is entirely irrelevant. The prior poster clearly has an axe to grind. Perhaps they have a vested interest in seeing this issue be brought up in each and every Hardy thread. Curious, don't you think?

I don't have an axe to grind. I'd like to know what happened and if it affects the school today. Maybe it comes up in Hardy threads because, like me, there are people who haven't heard about it. New families move to DC all the time.

I'm not saying you have an ax to grind; I'm saying the poster who always mentions this mythical teacher in EVERY thread has an ax to grind.

Of course you're curious. That's fine. But it has no relevance whatsoever to the school today, let alone in 7 years.

Short story: Rhee wanted to remove the popular (especially among OOB folks) principal at Hardy. She had previously met with IB parents at a home in the Palisades to discuss what they'd like to see happen at the school -- even though those folks were not sending their kids to Hardy. This upset some, in particular said teacher. She hung a sign on her door indicating her support of the embattled principal (Pope) and opposition to Rhee's actions and intentions.

Ok, so it wasn't "changes" like changing programs at the school. It was changing the principal that everyone liked. I thought maybe there were suggested program changes or class changes or something like that, that families didn't like or that the school was divided over. Thanks for clearing that up.

It was also annoyance and resentment that DCPS was trying to change Hardy a lot to become attractive to IB families.

Yet since then it has become more attractive to IB families, and no one seems to be complaining about it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There's no reason to use the search feature. That history, from half a decade ago, is entirely irrelevant. The prior poster clearly has an axe to grind. Perhaps they have a vested interest in seeing this issue be brought up in each and every Hardy thread. Curious, don't you think?

I don't have an axe to grind. I'd like to know what happened and if it affects the school today. Maybe it comes up in Hardy threads because, like me, there are people who haven't heard about it. New families move to DC all the time.

I'm not saying you have an ax to grind; I'm saying the poster who always mentions this mythical teacher in EVERY thread has an ax to grind.

Of course you're curious. That's fine. But it has no relevance whatsoever to the school today, let alone in 7 years.

Short story: Rhee wanted to remove the popular (especially among OOB folks) principal at Hardy. She had previously met with IB parents at a home in the Palisades to discuss what they'd like to see happen at the school -- even though those folks were not sending their kids to Hardy. This upset some, in particular said teacher. She hung a sign on her door indicating her support of the embattled principal (Pope) and opposition to Rhee's actions and intentions.

This covers it. I will add that the Hardy parents had no warning that their principal would be removed and so it looked like Rhee was willing to meet with Palisades parents and do their bidding while ignoring the Hardy parents. Could you blame them for being angry? The principal was assigned to create a middle school arts magnet school which never happened and so a talented principal was removed from working with kids for an entire year until he was assigned to Savoy Elementary. One more example of Michelle Rhee's ineptness at running a school system...but I digress. Anyway, pp is right - I don't think this has any relevance to the school today.

I only wish that Michelle Rhee had swung her big broom wider and farther. She probably should have fired twice as many principals and teachers as she did.

Michelle! So glad you are back. So sorry the cheating caused improved test scores when you last lived with us in DC.

If Rhee was involved in cheating, then why wasn't she indicted like the sorry ladies who ran the Atlanta and Chicago public schools?

[Anonymous]

If M. Rhee came back to DC and ran for mayor, she would certainly carry Ward 3 handily.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There's no reason to use the search feature. That history, from half a decade ago, is entirely irrelevant. The prior poster clearly has an axe to grind. Perhaps they have a vested interest in seeing this issue be brought up in each and every Hardy thread. Curious, don't you think?

I don't have an axe to grind. I'd like to know what happened and if it affects the school today. Maybe it comes up in Hardy threads because, like me, there are people who haven't heard about it. New families move to DC all the time.

Hmm Np here who is an interested observer. My kid is 7 years away from (hopefully!) attending Hardy and I really want to see the school succeed, for selfish and community reasons. I'm curious about the past because as we all know, history has a way of repeating itself! No axes to grind, just a desire to educate myself.

so educate yourself by using the search engine, not by resurrecting the ghost of Michelle Rhee on every Hardy thread

Rhee and her broom that took her long enough to destroy DCPS by making OOB feeder rights vested in 2009 (which inevitably led to the overcrowding at some of the Ward 3 ES's and Deal and Wilson (prior to that OOB kids had to lottery in to ES, MS, and HS, and could only do so if there was space) and then flew off to the private sector to make money after firing a bunch of good and bad principals, creating IMPACT which led to cheating scandals that were never fully investigated, (it is not fair to measure a teacher by the performance of a group of kids in crisis vs how much a teacher can do in a Ward 3 school) and generally creating chaos.

But most importantly, permanently overcrowding Ward 3 schools with OOB kids whose "rights" she "vested" in 2009, which the boundary review process did not have the guts to address, so instead they cut whole additional parts of the city off from Wilson, and cut its budget, gave it a crappy principal, and it will still be overcrowded by the time any Mann 4th graders get there, which is why they may not. And for those who are not planning to go to Wilson, there is little point in going to Hardy.

But if you want to save money, BASIS (#2 top scorer on the DC CAS last year it was offered, #3 first year they opened) and Washington Latin (#3 behind BASIS the final year and before that #2 after the almighty Deal) are both good options for another 3 years of good education no tuition. Only problem is if you choose Latin your kid will be behind in math, but then it is impossible to get into anyway

I completely agree that the consensus at Hardy is that Rhee and her craziness is ancient history, and that it is great that not all the extremely competent but very vocal supporters of Pope were fired as well because the one in question seems to be doing her job while constantly being maligned on this board.

- NOT a Hardy Parent

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's no reason to use the search feature. That history, from half a decade ago, is entirely irrelevant. The prior poster clearly has an axe to grind. Perhaps they have a vested interest in seeing this issue be brought up in each and every Hardy thread. Curious, don't you think?

I don't have an axe to grind. I'd like to know what happened and if it affects the school today. Maybe it comes up in Hardy threads because, like me, there are people who haven't heard about it. New families move to DC all the time.

I'm not saying you have an ax to grind; I'm saying the poster who always mentions this mythical teacher in EVERY thread has an ax to grind.

Of course you're curious. That's fine. But it has no relevance whatsoever to the school today, let alone in 7 years.

Short story: Rhee wanted to remove the popular (especially among OOB folks) principal at Hardy. She had previously met with IB parents at a home in the Palisades to discuss what they'd like to see happen at the school -- even though those folks were not sending their kids to Hardy. This upset some, in particular said teacher. She hung a sign on her door indicating her support of the embattled principal (Pope) and opposition to Rhee's actions and intentions.

Ok, so it wasn't "changes" like changing programs at the school. It was changing the principal that everyone liked. I thought maybe there were suggested program changes or class changes or something like that, that families didn't like or that the school was divided over. Thanks for clearing that up.

It was also annoyance and resentment that DCPS was trying to change Hardy a lot to become attractive to IB families.

It really wasn't.

Regardless, as multiple posters have noted, this is all ancient history. As someone who was at Hardy until last year, I can tell you that none of the parents at Hardy now - IB or OOB - care about this, and that all are working together on continued improvements.

Thank you, voice of sanity!

[Anonymous]

Am I the only one who perceives the OP's original post as racist troll bait?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who perceives the OP's original post as racist troll bait?

I saw it as "Look! Feeder numbers are higher this year!" Nothing wrong with that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who perceives the OP's original post as racist troll bait?

I saw it as "Look! Feeder numbers are higher this year!" Nothing wrong with that.

When Horace Mann and Key numbers go significantly higher to Hardy will be the time to celebrate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who perceives the OP's original post as racist troll bait?

I saw it as "Look! Feeder numbers are higher this year!" Nothing wrong with that.

When Horace Mann and Key numbers go significantly higher to Hardy will be the time to celebrate.

Whatever. I'm indifferent to this external validation, and will instead celebrate the fact that my kid did great at Hardy, had three wonderful years of academic and social growth there, and is now thriving in high school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who perceives the OP's original post as racist troll bait?

I saw it as "Look! Feeder numbers are higher this year!" Nothing wrong with that.

When Horace Mann and Key numbers go significantly higher to Hardy will be the time to celebrate.

I look at the houses around Mann and I think there's no way these people are all going to stay in dcps. Hell, I recently moved to a much less dance neighborhood IB for Deal and when we were introducing ourselves to new people we found many families sheepishly saying they were at independent schools "but Deal is great. Preppyville Academy was just a great fit for Schmayden."


It seems to me that Hardy could be the nicest DCPS middle school and people in the swanky environs still wouldn't use it.

[Anonymous]

That's "less fancy."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who perceives the OP's original post as racist troll bait?

I saw it as "Look! Feeder numbers are higher this year!" Nothing wrong with that.

When Horace Mann and Key numbers go significantly higher to Hardy will be the time to celebrate.

I look at the houses around Mann and I think there's no way these people are all going to stay in dcps. Hell, I recently moved to a much less dance neighborhood IB for Deal and when we were introducing ourselves to new people we found many families sheepishly saying they were at independent schools "but Deal is great. Preppyville Academy was just a great fit for Schmayden."


It seems to me that Hardy could be the nicest DCPS middle school and people in the swanky environs still wouldn't use it.

That's a feature, not a bug.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who perceives the OP's original post as racist troll bait?

I saw it as "Look! Feeder numbers are higher this year!" Nothing wrong with that.

When Horace Mann and Key numbers go significantly higher to Hardy will be the time to celebrate.

I look at the houses around Mann and I think there's no way these people are all going to stay in dcps. Hell, I recently moved to a much less dance neighborhood IB for Deal and when we were introducing ourselves to new people we found many families sheepishly saying they were at independent schools "but Deal is great. Preppyville Academy was just a great fit for Schmayden."


It seems to me that Hardy could be the nicest DCPS middle school and people in the swanky environs still wouldn't use it.

That's a feature, not a bug.

I agree. The bellyaching about Hardy IB enrollment seems like some kind of demented attempt by insecure Deal and charter parents to prove they've got something better (a phenomenon I can only imagine after years on DCUM).

That's silly. if you live in a $2 million dollar home with gold-plated bidets (just guessing; they must be paying for something) and you bought that home either because you come from money or you got a great education or both, you're most likely going to jump out of DCPS.

That's ok. Just keep paying your property taxes.

[Anonymous]

Hardy is a mediocre school, to put it charitably. It's just better than almost every other shitty public middle school in DC, save one: Deal. No doubt Hardy will get better slowly, but it's taking longer to change its "distinctive culture" than it should.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's no reason to use the search feature. That history, from half a decade ago, is entirely irrelevant. The prior poster clearly has an axe to grind. Perhaps they have a vested interest in seeing this issue be brought up in each and every Hardy thread. Curious, don't you think?

I don't have an axe to grind. I'd like to know what happened and if it affects the school today. Maybe it comes up in Hardy threads because, like me, there are people who haven't heard about it. New families move to DC all the time.

Hmm Np here who is an interested observer. My kid is 7 years away from (hopefully!) attending Hardy and I really want to see the school succeed, for selfish and community reasons. I'm curious about the past because as we all know, history has a way of repeating itself! No axes to grind, just a desire to educate myself.

so educate yourself by using the search engine, not by resurrecting the ghost of Michelle Rhee on every Hardy thread

Rhee and her broom that took her long enough to destroy DCPS by making OOB feeder rights vested in 2009 (which inevitably led to the overcrowding at some of the Ward 3 ES's and Deal and Wilson (prior to that OOB kids had to lottery in to ES, MS, and HS, and could only do so if there was space) and then flew off to the private sector to make money after firing a bunch of good and bad principals, creating IMPACT which led to cheating scandals that were never fully investigated, (it is not fair to measure a teacher by the performance of a group of kids in crisis vs how much a teacher can do in a Ward 3 school) and generally creating chaos.

But most importantly, permanently overcrowding Ward 3 schools with OOB kids whose "rights" she "vested" in 2009, which the boundary review process did not have the guts to address, so instead they cut whole additional parts of the city off from Wilson, and cut its budget, gave it a crappy principal, and it will still be overcrowded by the time any Mann 4th graders get there, which is why they may not. And for those who are not planning to go to Wilson, there is little point in going to Hardy.

But if you want to save money, BASIS (#2 top scorer on the DC CAS last year it was offered, #3 first year they opened) and Washington Latin (#3 behind BASIS the final year and before that #2 after the almighty Deal) are both good options for another 3 years of good education no tuition. Only problem is if you choose Latin your kid will be behind in math, but then it is impossible to get into anyway

I completely agree that the consensus at Hardy is that Rhee and her craziness is ancient history, and that it is great that not all the extremely competent but very vocal supporters of Pope were fired as well because the one in question seems to be doing her job while constantly being maligned on this board.

- NOT a Hardy Parent

And this is why the upthread comment that Rhee would carry Ward 3 is laughable. Rhee wrecked Hardy by bungling the principal transition, and guaranteed overcrowding forever at Deal and Wilson with her not-at-all thought out change to feeder preference. Not a lot of love for her WOTP.