Using our address for friends child to go to the public school we are in bounds for

[Anonymous]

Anything fake is not legal. Sure, you can do things that are not legal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well the punishment for your friend would be as follows: "Penalty for False Information

Any person, including any District of Columbia public school or public charter school official, who knowingly supplies false information to a public official in connection with student residency verification shall be subject to charges of tuition retroactively, and payment of a fine of not more than $2,000 or imprisonment for not more than 90 days, but not both fine and imprisonment, pursuant to the District of Columbia Nonresident Tuition Act, approved September 8, 1960 and amended by the District of Columbia Public Schools and Public Charter School Student Residency Fraud Prevention Amendment Act of 2012 (D.C. Code §38-312). The case of any such person may be referred by the Office of the State Superintendent of Education to the Office of the Attorney General."

I'm not sure if DC would bring an aiding and abetting case against you. But it's still wrong. It's more than just being dishonest, you're taking a spot from other kids who follow the rules and have applied for out of bounds spots. Your friends can do that, and they should escalate the situation through the school and DCPS if necessary (and DCPS may move the child if necessary).

Your friends might legitimately be residents of DC, but the documentation that they will submit that includes your address will be "in connection with student residency verification." If the DC Code is like the federal code, you will be guilty under a theory of accomplice liability. So, you will be breaking the law and facing potential criminal penalties if OSSE discovered the fraud and referred you to the AG. Your friends would probably have to sign a fake lease, you'd have to put their names on your utility bills, and they might have to use your address on other official documents and possibly on their driver's licenses, etc.

And you can call people names all you want, but you are proposing to break the law. I don't know why you expect people to be supportive.

[Anonymous]

Stop the armchair lawyering. DC isn't about to prosecute a conspiracy case against someone like OP, even if the actual "cheater" lived in MD or VA. You're torturing the plain language of the statute and residency verification form.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Stop the armchair lawyering. DC isn't about to prosecute a conspiracy case against someone like OP, even if the actual "cheater" lived in MD or VA. You're torturing the plain language of the statute and residency verification form.

Seriously, like DCPS, OSSE and the AGs office don't have anything better to do than go after a DC resident for residency fraud.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a question about residency and school as well, though for me, not a friend. DC is not zoned for our close-by middle school, but for one much farther away. The close-by school is not only a much easier commute for us, it is also has a better reputation, so sought after an no lottery movement. I have found a reasonably-priced, but v. small apartment that is inbounds for this school and is just a few blocks from our place. I am thinking about renting it, paying the utilities, changing the address for my driver's license and thus getting DC to the closer, easier for us, and better school. We won't live there full-time, but I can walk over and get the mail, etc every day. I am surprised - and a bit ashamed - that I would go to these lengths, but am considering it. What would happen to if the school found out? What about when DC's classmates or parents come to visit our bigger, current place? What are our liabilities? Thanks in advance to DCUMers who reply without attacking.

I have thought about this too (I don't even have a child!)
If you bought a studio in Upper NW in a good school district, my guess is that you could probably rent it out to cover the mortgage and sell it for a tidy profit in 18 years after the kids are done with school. Maybe keep the apartment empty for the first few years while your kids get ingrained in the school program.

Your name would be on the property records, tax records, utilities, etc. If any parents ask, just tell them that you won the OOB lottery. There's no way for other parents to verify that information.

You'd easily get away with this, OP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a question about residency and school as well, though for me, not a friend. DC is not zoned for our close-by middle school, but for one much farther away. The close-by school is not only a much easier commute for us, it is also has a better reputation, so sought after an no lottery movement. I have found a reasonably-priced, but v. small apartment that is inbounds for this school and is just a few blocks from our place. I am thinking about renting it, paying the utilities, changing the address for my driver's license and thus getting DC to the closer, easier for us, and better school. We won't live there full-time, but I can walk over and get the mail, etc every day. I am surprised - and a bit ashamed - that I would go to these lengths, but am considering it. What would happen to if the school found out? What about when DC's classmates or parents come to visit our bigger, current place? What are our liabilities? Thanks in advance to DCUMers who reply without attacking.

I have thought about this too (I don't even have a child!)
If you bought a studio in Upper NW in a good school district, my guess is that you could probably rent it out to cover the mortgage and sell it for a tidy profit in 18 years after the kids are done with school. Maybe keep the apartment empty for the first few years while your kids get ingrained in the school program.

Your name would be on the property records, tax records, utilities, etc. If any parents ask, just tell them that you won the OOB lottery. There's no way for other parents to verify that information.

You'd easily get away with this, OP.[/quote

that's how those police officers got caught.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a question about residency and school as well, though for me, not a friend. DC is not zoned for our close-by middle school, but for one much farther away. The close-by school is not only a much easier commute for us, it is also has a better reputation, so sought after an no lottery movement. I have found a reasonably-priced, but v. small apartment that is inbounds for this school and is just a few blocks from our place. I am thinking about renting it, paying the utilities, changing the address for my driver's license and thus getting DC to the closer, easier for us, and better school. We won't live there full-time, but I can walk over and get the mail, etc every day. I am surprised - and a bit ashamed - that I would go to these lengths, but am considering it. What would happen to if the school found out? What about when DC's classmates or parents come to visit our bigger, current place? What are our liabilities? Thanks in advance to DCUMers who reply without attacking.

I have thought about this too (I don't even have a child!)
If you bought a studio in Upper NW in a good school district, my guess is that you could probably rent it out to cover the mortgage and sell it for a tidy profit in 18 years after the kids are done with school. Maybe keep the apartment empty for the first few years while your kids get ingrained in the school program.

Your name would be on the property records, tax records, utilities, etc. If any parents ask, just tell them that you won the OOB lottery. There's no way for other parents to verify that information.

You'd easily get away with this, OP.[/quote

that's how those police officers got caught.

Which police officers??? I don't have kids, so I haven't followed the story....pls post a link!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a question about residency and school as well, though for me, not a friend. DC is not zoned for our close-by middle school, but for one much farther away. The close-by school is not only a much easier commute for us, it is also has a better reputation, so sought after an no lottery movement. I have found a reasonably-priced, but v. small apartment that is inbounds for this school and is just a few blocks from our place. I am thinking about renting it, paying the utilities, changing the address for my driver's license and thus getting DC to the closer, easier for us, and better school. We won't live there full-time, but I can walk over and get the mail, etc every day. I am surprised - and a bit ashamed - that I would go to these lengths, but am considering it. What would happen to if the school found out? What about when DC's classmates or parents come to visit our bigger, current place? What are our liabilities? Thanks in advance to DCUMers who reply without attacking.

I have thought about this too (I don't even have a child!)
If you bought a studio in Upper NW in a good school district, my guess is that you could probably rent it out to cover the mortgage and sell it for a tidy profit in 18 years after the kids are done with school. Maybe keep the apartment empty for the first few years while your kids get ingrained in the school program.

Your name would be on the property records, tax records, utilities, etc. If any parents ask, just tell them that you won the OOB lottery. There's no way for other parents to verify that information.

You'd easily get away with this, OP.

that's how those police officers got caught.

Ah, but they never actually lived in the District. That was their big screw up. How did DCPS get tipped off?

And yes, LOTS of Maryland license plates on SUVs pulling up to my local DCPS campuses each day. These folks are brazen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a question about residency and school as well, though for me, not a friend. DC is not zoned for our close-by middle school, but for one much farther away. The close-by school is not only a much easier commute for us, it is also has a better reputation, so sought after an no lottery movement. I have found a reasonably-priced, but v. small apartment that is inbounds for this school and is just a few blocks from our place. I am thinking about renting it, paying the utilities, changing the address for my driver's license and thus getting DC to the closer, easier for us, and better school. We won't live there full-time, but I can walk over and get the mail, etc every day. I am surprised - and a bit ashamed - that I would go to these lengths, but am considering it. What would happen to if the school found out? What about when DC's classmates or parents come to visit our bigger, current place? What are our liabilities? Thanks in advance to DCUMers who reply without attacking.

I have thought about this too (I don't even have a child!)
If you bought a studio in Upper NW in a good school district, my guess is that you could probably rent it out to cover the mortgage and sell it for a tidy profit in 18 years after the kids are done with school. Maybe keep the apartment empty for the first few years while your kids get ingrained in the school program.

Your name would be on the property records, tax records, utilities, etc. If any parents ask, just tell them that you won the OOB lottery. There's no way for other parents to verify that information.

You'd easily get away with this, OP.

that's how those police officers got caught.

Ah, but they never actually lived in the District. That was their big screw up. How did DCPS get tipped off?

And yes, LOTS of Maryland license plates on SUVs pulling up to my local DCPS campuses each day. These folks are brazen.

They got caught because they were reported AND they had sued the tenants living in their DC address for nonpayment of rent. Clearly it wasn't their home if they were leasing it to others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a question about residency and school as well, though for me, not a friend. DC is not zoned for our close-by middle school, but for one much farther away. The close-by school is not only a much easier commute for us, it is also has a better reputation, so sought after an no lottery movement. I have found a reasonably-priced, but v. small apartment that is inbounds for this school and is just a few blocks from our place. I am thinking about renting it, paying the utilities, changing the address for my driver's license and thus getting DC to the closer, easier for us, and better school. We won't live there full-time, but I can walk over and get the mail, etc every day. I am surprised - and a bit ashamed - that I would go to these lengths, but am considering it. What would happen to if the school found out? What about when DC's classmates or parents come to visit our bigger, current place? What are our liabilities? Thanks in advance to DCUMers who reply without attacking.

I have thought about this too (I don't even have a child!)
If you bought a studio in Upper NW in a good school district, my guess is that you could probably rent it out to cover the mortgage and sell it for a tidy profit in 18 years after the kids are done with school. Maybe keep the apartment empty for the first few years while your kids get ingrained in the school program.

Your name would be on the property records, tax records, utilities, etc. If any parents ask, just tell them that you won the OOB lottery. There's no way for other parents to verify that information.

You'd easily get away with this, OP.

that's how those police officers got caught.

Ah, but they never actually lived in the District. That was their big screw up. How did DCPS get tipped off?

And yes, LOTS of Maryland license plates on SUVs pulling up to my local DCPS campuses each day. These folks are brazen.

They got caught because they were reported AND they had sued the tenants living in their DC address for nonpayment of rent. Clearly it wasn't their home if they were leasing it to others.

Wow, what a bunch of morons. Not the brightest bulbs to leave an official paper trail like that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Wow, what a bunch of morons. Not the brightest bulbs to leave an official paper trail like that.

They thought they wouldn't get caught.

[Anonymous]

If the family are already DC residents I can't imagine prison time and fines will apply. Worst that will happen is kid gets sent back to old school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anything fake is not legal. Sure, you can do things that are not legal.

What if you sign a rental agreement for a room and pay your friend some minimal amount, like $100/ month. And cover for a utility bill.

It's legal, isn't it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anything fake is not legal. Sure, you can do things that are not legal.

What if you sign a rental agreement for a room and pay your friend some minimal amount, like $100/ month. And cover for a utility bill.

It's legal, isn't it?

If the child lives there, it's legal. Otherwise, no. It's about your RESIDENCE, not where you rent some space.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anything fake is not legal. Sure, you can do things that are not legal.

What if you sign a rental agreement for a room and pay your friend some minimal amount, like $100/ month. And cover for a utility bill.

It's legal, isn't it?

If you have to ask, I think you know the answer to this one.