If you get in nowhere, what next?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Are YOU serious? we're not talking about low income disenfranchised kids in this post. we're talking about entitled folks who want their nice townhouse in Mt Pleasant, but don't want to go to school in Mt Pleasant. We're talking people who have enough money to rent an additional residence in-bounds of wealthy neighborhoods, in addition to paying their mortgage, just so they don't have to move. I can guarantee you that truly needy children are NOT engaging in these scenarios. Their parents dont' have the funds for this. And the most needy kids don't even have parents that care this much. This is NOT the segment of the population that is on this board right now championing falsified residency. "

This is so outrageous--poster above. What "entotlement are you referring to? There are lots of ways to get in to a great school without renting or buying a house in the neighborhood. We got in to 3 great schools--2 DCPS and 1 charter for 2009 and now we have to decide--it was all lottery. I love my neighborhood and do not and should not have to move to another neighborhood for the schools. School choice is about options and opportunities. Rhee will not change that--she is all about school choice and attempting to make excellent schools for everywne in DC.

Good for you on getting in through the proper means. I never said anything about people like you who follow the rules. OOB is great. Scamming the system is not. We're not debating that. If you read the thread and the post I was responding to, you will see that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:50% of dcps students attend a school outside their boundary. that is why dcps is considered a school choice district. unless there are severe or negligent behavior by the students that are oob or become oob when they move out the school zoned area I have never ever heard of anyone being displaced, in addition with No Child Left Behind if a school has not met ayp for a number of years, those students BY RIGHT have the opportunity to attend a school out of their neighborhood school. A letter is sent every year to every student in those schools letting them know where they can transfer too.

You don't get to pick whatever school you want, though! They pick for you or you register in the lottery process like everyone else!

I don't care if it's been going on for YEARS, as one poster keeps saying. It's against regulations. Lots of things go on for YEARS that are wrong. It does NOT justify it. It just doesn't.

We go to a very desirable school. Maybe I'll bring this up with the principal. I think it's time for address checks.

You are absolutely WRONG! With NCLB you get a letter (I have received one in the past, in my very nice wealthy neighborhood east of rock creek, that says my child's school has not mt AYP and it listed two excellent schools fort her to attend west of the park in ward 3--no lottery, not oob.

No, I am not wrong! they gave you 2 choices. You don't just go out there and pick what you want.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It may not be illegal but "playing the system" the way you describe is at the very least very dishonest. Way to go educating another entitled person just like you.

Guess what? In the United States, a free public education is the very definition of an entitlement for all residents - homeowner, leaseholder, legal or illegal. We all support the schools through taxes and we're all entitled to this benefit. I understand why you would like to restrict your school to only the wealthy residents of your neighborhood. In this regard you are really no different from the generation of white parents who fled the cities after Brown v. Board of Ed., and especially those who left after forced (bussed) integration. You do not want your children to go to school with those other children.

Nonetheless, this is how the system works, whether like it or not - and you need to understand that. Just as much as you want to keep them out, there's nothing wrong with them playing the game to try to get in.

Funny as I am neither wealthy nor white. I am though one honest law abiding citizen who refuses to bend rules and "play the game" like some entitled people who would do anything to get "in".

Then don't, nobody cares. Just try to stay off your high horse while you're at it because you just sound foolish. No laws are being broken and no cheating is going on. This is absolutely PLAYING BY THE RULES. Just because you don't like it or didn't figure it out doesn't mean it's wrong. As for entitlement, you can bet your bottom dollar that the OP's child is 100% as entitled to a free public education as anyone else in DC, whichever side of the park they live on.

Oh, your theory about wealthy and white did not work out and you sounded very foolish lol!
No laws may be broken but cheating is definitely going on. And yes your child is entitled to a free public education, in your neighborhood school, not in mine. Stay there.

[Anonymous]

9:49 This was articulated by teachers and the administration at my child's DCPS school. Please note that it was in reference to other students as we were already OOB.

[Anonymous]

I know a wealthy woman who let her cleaning lady use her address to get into a good NW DCPS school. It works both ways.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It may not be illegal but "playing the system" the way you describe is at the very least very dishonest. Way to go educating another entitled person just like you.

Guess what? In the United States, a free public education is the very definition of an entitlement for all residents - homeowner, leaseholder, legal or illegal. We all support the schools through taxes and we're all entitled to this benefit. I understand why you would like to restrict your school to only the wealthy residents of your neighborhood. In this regard you are really no different from the generation of white parents who fled the cities after Brown v. Board of Ed., and especially those who left after forced (bussed) integration. You do not want your children to go to school with those other children.

Nonetheless, this is how the system works, whether like it or not - and you need to understand that. Just as much as you want to keep them out, there's nothing wrong with them playing the game to try to get in.

Funny as I am neither wealthy nor white. I am though one honest law abiding citizen who refuses to bend rules and "play the game" like some entitled people who would do anything to get "in".

Then don't, nobody cares. Just try to stay off your high horse while you're at it because you just sound foolish. No laws are being broken and no cheating is going on. This is absolutely PLAYING BY THE RULES. Just because you don't like it or didn't figure it out doesn't mean it's wrong. As for entitlement, you can bet your bottom dollar that the OP's child is 100% as entitled to a free public education as anyone else in DC, whichever side of the park they live on.

Oh, your theory about wealthy and white did not work out and you sounded very foolish lol!
No laws may be broken but cheating is definitely going on. And yes your child is entitled to a free public education, in your neighborhood school, not in mine. Stay there.

Ouch! Pretty harsh there.

[Anonymous]

It's not cheating if the principal grants an exemption for an in-boundary that moves OOB. At least that's how I read the regs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It may not be illegal but "playing the system" the way you describe is at the very least very dishonest. Way to go educating another entitled person just like you.

Guess what? In the United States, a free public education is the very definition of an entitlement for all residents - homeowner, leaseholder, legal or illegal. We all support the schools through taxes and we're all entitled to this benefit. I understand why you would like to restrict your school to only the wealthy residents of your neighborhood. In this regard you are really no different from the generation of white parents who fled the cities after Brown v. Board of Ed., and especially those who left after forced (bussed) integration. You do not want your children to go to school with those other children.

Nonetheless, this is how the system works, whether like it or not - and you need to understand that. Just as much as you want to keep them out, there's nothing wrong with them playing the game to try to get in.

Funny as I am neither wealthy nor white. I am though one honest law abiding citizen who refuses to bend rules and "play the game" like some entitled people who would do anything to get "in".

Then don't, nobody cares. Just try to stay off your high horse while you're at it because you just sound foolish. No laws are being broken and no cheating is going on. This is absolutely PLAYING BY THE RULES. Just because you don't like it or didn't figure it out doesn't mean it's wrong. As for entitlement, you can bet your bottom dollar that the OP's child is 100% as entitled to a free public education as anyone else in DC, whichever side of the park they live on.

Oh, your theory about wealthy and white did not work out and you sounded very foolish lol!
No laws may be broken but cheating is definitely going on. And yes your child is entitled to a free public education, in your neighborhood school, not in mine. Stay there.[/quote]

OK, George Wallace! We were waiting for that cracker mentality to come out...Thanks for showing your true colors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And yes your child is entitled to a free public education, in your neighborhood school, not in mine. Stay there.

Ah yes. I knew if this thread went on long enough a closet racist would out herself! Thanks Ms. KKK, but there's no need to go burning crosses in people's lawns. Just keep talking and we'll all know who you are. BTW, I hope you do go and ask your principal to do address checks (I just wish I could be a fly on the wall for that meeting). You do know that other children's data is considered private and isn't going to be released to you, right? Are you going to starting following children home from school personally to see where they go? Good luck explaining that to the police when someone reports you for stalking...

[Anonymous]

I really think the moderators should step in here. This is out of control. Take it outside!

[Anonymous]

Don't close the big top now that the circus is beginning!

The racist(s?) has finally started to reveal herself. I'd like to know what else she advocates to keep those Mt. Pleasant children out of her school. Would firehoses and dogs suffice? Or does she want hoods and ropes too?

And which NW school does she want to keep them out of? Which school exactly is it that needs to burn a cross on its lawn? Who exactly is she? I guess we'll know if there's a big "address check" kerfuffle that bubbles its way up through the PTO. Keep your eyes and ears pealed for the potential lynching instigator...

[Anonymous]

I think the poster you are calling a racist is not in fact white, which seemed to be the assumption behind the invocation of George Wallace. And I suspect that the parents s/he believes are abusing the system are probably white, well-to-do residents of Mt Pleasant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the poster you are calling a racist is not in fact white, which seemed to be the assumption behind the invocation of George Wallace. And I suspect that the parents s/he believes are abusing the system are probably white, well-to-do residents of Mt Pleasant.

Does it matter what color they are? Or doesn't the George Wallace example suggest that no matter who you are, we've decided against being a society that attempts to barricade the school doors to keep "those children" from coming in.

The crypto-racist would like us all to believe that she's trying to keep the children of wealthy entitled DC residents out, but that is in fact turning the actual demographics of DC on its head. It's not as if there isn't a surfeit of data telling us which neighborhoods are established, wealthy, and mostly white and which neighborhoods are mixed, and which neighborhoods are majority minority. There's also plenty of data to tell us which schools overlap with which neighborhoods. So the argument that the poor non-white woman west of the park trying to keep those wealthy, white Mt. Pleasant children from over-running her school just isn't going to carry water no matter how fast she spins. You see?

[Anonymous]

I am not the PP who is being called George Wallace, I'm a np. Our in-boundary school is Murch.

I wish that Murch had fewer students than it does, and I really wish that OOB siblings did not have precedence over inboundary nonsiblings for preK.

Does this make me racist?

[Anonymous]

Is this for Pre-K or K. Because Pre-K in this city is in every school but it is not MANDATORY until K. For K all in bound kids get a spot first. We are really luck that in Dc we have options for Pre-K that is free. Montgomery County does not yet. I only have one child but it makes absolute sense for families to be able to send their kids to the same school.