5th-6th grade math / Map-M

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My 5th grade DD's MAP score was something in the 260s, and I am requesting a switch to Algebra for next year.

I am well aware that the supposedly advanced math tracks in most schools are meaningless, because all that's taught is applying the formula. This is easy for children like my daughter, who is a fast learner.

The real work of mathematics needs to be done outside of school, in places like AoPS, where students are trained in actual logical reasoning and problem solving.

We did Algebra this year in 6th and no regrets and its gone very well. I would absolutely encourage you to do a prep class this summer to make sure she can handle it. We did one last summer and it was fantastic. AIM is just pre-algebra.

Thank you, this was my thought as well. The middle school math chair said he might test DD to see whether she's ready, so I'll time the prep accordingly. I'm sure she can do it, since we've been desultorily teaching her algebraic equations and inequalities at home. This stuff is not hard, and since I have a high schooler on the advanced math track (who took Algebra in 7th), I know that in high school, it's still not hard. Like I said, MCPS and other public school systems completely skip the actual reasoning part... unless the kids are in magnets

Every school is different. We had no testing. We prepped over the summer but more because Covid hit and we were supplementing.

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Anonymous wrote:PP here correction MAP-M score was 449. Sorry for the typo

I don't think 449 exists.

[Anonymous]

5th grader is in compacted math 5/6. I don't know what her spring score is because I am not sure if she has taken it. But I see online that her autumn 5th grade score was 285. She is a natural with math and some parents suggested for us to have her in Alg 1 in 6th but honestly, I have no interest in putting her on track for taking Calculus in 10th.

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Anonymous wrote:5th grader is in compacted math 5/6. I don't know what her spring score is because I am not sure if she has taken it. But I see online that her autumn 5th grade score was 285. She is a natural with math and some parents suggested for us to have her in Alg 1 in 6th but honestly, I have no interest in putting her on track for taking Calculus in 10th.

I think that’s wise. Unless your school has a pretty large cohort of 6th graders taking Algebra 1, you’re just setting your kid up for logistical issues down the road.

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Anonymous wrote:5th grader is in compacted math 5/6. I don't know what her spring score is because I am not sure if she has taken it. But I see online that her autumn 5th grade score was 285. She is a natural with math and some parents suggested for us to have her in Alg 1 in 6th but honestly, I have no interest in putting her on track for taking Calculus in 10th.

I think that’s wise. Unless your school has a pretty large cohort of 6th graders taking Algebra 1, you’re just setting your kid up for logistical issues down the road.

Sorry, “you” being not you, but people who do opt their kid into Algebra 1 in 6th.

It’s not about whether they can handle the math in 6th, it’s what happens in 8th and 12th. I wish someone had told us that earlier.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:5th grader is in compacted math 5/6. I don't know what her spring score is because I am not sure if she has taken it. But I see online that her autumn 5th grade score was 285. She is a natural with math and some parents suggested for us to have her in Alg 1 in 6th but honestly, I have no interest in putting her on track for taking Calculus in 10th.

I think that’s wise. Unless your school has a pretty large cohort of 6th graders taking Algebra 1, you’re just setting your kid up for logistical issues down the road.

Sorry, “you” being not you, but people who do opt their kid into Algebra 1 in 6th.

It’s not about whether they can handle the math in 6th, it’s what happens in 8th and 12th. I wish someone had told us that earlier.

I can see what you're saying but for DC being bored to tears in AIM may be even worse.

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Anonymous wrote:5th grader is in compacted math 5/6. I don't know what her spring score is because I am not sure if she has taken it. But I see online that her autumn 5th grade score was 285. She is a natural with math and some parents suggested for us to have her in Alg 1 in 6th but honestly, I have no interest in putting her on track for taking Calculus in 10th.

I think that’s wise. Unless your school has a pretty large cohort of 6th graders taking Algebra 1, you’re just setting your kid up for logistical issues down the road.

Sorry, “you” being not you, but people who do opt their kid into Algebra 1 in 6th.

It’s not about whether they can handle the math in 6th, it’s what happens in 8th and 12th. I wish someone had told us that earlier.

If they are struggling you drop them back. In 12 lots of options like statistics. Yes you opt in to algebra in 6th. We did.

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Anonymous wrote:5th grader is in compacted math 5/6. I don't know what her spring score is because I am not sure if she has taken it. But I see online that her autumn 5th grade score was 285. She is a natural with math and some parents suggested for us to have her in Alg 1 in 6th but honestly, I have no interest in putting her on track for taking Calculus in 10th.

And that is ok. I know several families who choose aim over algebra. Our child choose algebra.

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Anonymous wrote:5th grader is in compacted math 5/6. I don't know what her spring score is because I am not sure if she has taken it. But I see online that her autumn 5th grade score was 285. She is a natural with math and some parents suggested for us to have her in Alg 1 in 6th but honestly, I have no interest in putting her on track for taking Calculus in 10th.

I think that’s wise. Unless your school has a pretty large cohort of 6th graders taking Algebra 1, you’re just setting your kid up for logistical issues down the road.

Sorry, “you” being not you, but people who do opt their kid into Algebra 1 in 6th.

It’s not about whether they can handle the math in 6th, it’s what happens in 8th and 12th. I wish someone had told us that earlier.

If they are struggling you drop them back. In 12 lots of options like statistics. Yes you opt in to algebra in 6th. We did.

Again, it’s not content. Kid is finding Algebra 2 extremely easy in 8th - same as Geometry in 7th and Algebra 1 in 6th. But transportation from the HS to the MS would have been a burden for us if not for Covid, and our HS told us they couldn’t guarantee a math class for DC in 12th, which adds in another layer of stress and logistics at that point. I wish they had been upfront with us from the beginning about what the impact would be down the road. I’d imagine this is less of an issue if there are more kids at your school in the same boat, but MCPS does not handle exceptions particularly well.

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Anonymous wrote:5th grader is in compacted math 5/6. I don't know what her spring score is because I am not sure if she has taken it. But I see online that her autumn 5th grade score was 285. She is a natural with math and some parents suggested for us to have her in Alg 1 in 6th but honestly, I have no interest in putting her on track for taking Calculus in 10th.

I think that’s wise. Unless your school has a pretty large cohort of 6th graders taking Algebra 1, you’re just setting your kid up for logistical issues down the road.

Sorry, “you” being not you, but people who do opt their kid into Algebra 1 in 6th.

It’s not about whether they can handle the math in 6th, it’s what happens in 8th and 12th. I wish someone had told us that earlier.

If they are struggling you drop them back. In 12 lots of options like statistics. Yes you opt in to algebra in 6th. We did.

Again, it’s not content. Kid is finding Algebra 2 extremely easy in 8th - same as Geometry in 7th and Algebra 1 in 6th. But transportation from the HS to the MS would have been a burden for us if not for Covid, and our HS told us they couldn’t guarantee a math class for DC in 12th, which adds in another layer of stress and logistics at that point. I wish they had been upfront with us from the beginning about what the impact would be down the road. I’d imagine this is less of an issue if there are more kids at your school in the same boat, but MCPS does not handle exceptions particularly well.

What you are saying makes zero sense. You are changing the story to make it about you. We were told that our children would be bused if they don't offer the class from the MS to HS and in HS there will be other math options like statistics or they can take community college classes. You don't want to drive your child, which is fine but don't blame MCPS when its really a transportation issue, which isn't a real issue. They take the bus to HS if you will not drive them and its your home school. They do their math 1st period and then MCPS sends a bus to drive them to the MS (or you drive them). Even better with DL, hopefully kids can do it via DL if needed so they don't have to change schools. We have a handful of kids. I'll do what ever I need to to make it work. I don't care what the burden is as its about my child's needs, not mine.

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What you are saying makes zero sense. You are changing the story to make it about you. We were told that our children would be bused if they don't offer the class from the MS to HS and in HS there will be other math options like statistics or they can take community college classes. You don't want to drive your child, which is fine but don't blame MCPS when its really a transportation issue, which isn't a real issue. They take the bus to HS if you will not drive them and its your home school. They do their math 1st period and then MCPS sends a bus to drive them to the MS (or you drive them). Even better with DL, hopefully kids can do it via DL if needed so they don't have to change schools. We have a handful of kids. I'll do what ever I need to to make it work. I don't care what the burden is as its about my child's needs, not mine.

Cool. I hope it works out for your child. I’m sure it runs more smoothly if there are multiple kids in the school doing the same thing. I would still encourage parents to ask a lot of questions before doing anything in MCPS that is out of the norm.

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What you are saying makes zero sense. You are changing the story to make it about you. We were told that our children would be bused if they don't offer the class from the MS to HS and in HS there will be other math options like statistics or they can take community college classes. You don't want to drive your child, which is fine but don't blame MCPS when its really a transportation issue, which isn't a real issue. They take the bus to HS if you will not drive them and its your home school. They do their math 1st period and then MCPS sends a bus to drive them to the MS (or you drive them). Even better with DL, hopefully kids can do it via DL if needed so they don't have to change schools. We have a handful of kids. I'll do what ever I need to to make it work. I don't care what the burden is as its about my child's needs, not mine.

Cool. I hope it works out for your child. I’m sure it runs more smoothly if there are multiple kids in the school doing the same thing. I would still encourage parents to ask a lot of questions before doing anything in MCPS that is out of the norm.

It’s not out of the norm at our school but we have zero expectations for MCPS so anything is a bonus. We will make it work. It’s our responsibility as parents.

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None of this matters. Go to the college acceptance forums. You are creating people who don’t know how to be proper people.

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Anonymous wrote:None of this matters. Go to the college acceptance forums. You are creating people who don’t know how to be proper people.

Can you elaborate?

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Anonymous wrote:None of this matters. Go to the college acceptance forums. You are creating people who don’t know how to be proper people.

Oh look, an anti-intellectual nerd-hater. Let's push everyone into travel sports where they can learn to be proper people instead of letting our children develop where their talents lie. It's not as if we need scientists and mathematicians!!!