AA Boys at JKLMM

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm curious as to why JKLMM doesn't include E!H and S.

Why aren't Eaton, Hearst and Stoddert considered in the same league?

There is a qualitative difference with the JKLMM schools -- just about everyone who attends is in-boundary, and just about everyone who is in-boundary who goes to public school attends. This is starkly different from the rest of public education in DC, where roughly three quarters of kids don't attend their in-boundary school. Eaton and Hearst are dominated by OOB kids so they don't fit that profile.

Stoddert is kind of a mixed bag.

Eaton has also been rezoned out of Deal to Hardy, which will not help it to become more IB and get to the JKLM level.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm curious as to why JKLMM doesn't include E!H and S.

Why aren't Eaton, Hearst and Stoddert considered in the same league?

There is a qualitative difference with the JKLMM schools -- just about everyone who attends is in-boundary, and just about everyone who is in-boundary who goes to public school attends. This is starkly different from the rest of public education in DC, where roughly three quarters of kids don't attend their in-boundary school. Eaton and Hearst are dominated by OOB kids so they don't fit that profile.

Stoddert is kind of a mixed bag.

NP. So you're saying because a school's profile isn't 100% IB, they don't earn a right to be considered just as top notch as JKLM. I call BS. In my perspective (and many non original JKLM parents), Stoddert, Eaton, Hearst should belong there if not more so because they are successful and diverse. PP that asked, many of us have already changed it to EHJKLMMORSS (it's just easier to type JKLM). The old guard doesn't want to allow others into the cool club for fear of it becoming a deluded pool. As if more successful schools will cause their property values to go down in the $100ks.

EHJKLMMORSS

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[Anonymous]

Let's just start calling it E-S

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm curious as to why JKLMM doesn't include E!H and S.

Why aren't Eaton, Hearst and Stoddert considered in the same league?

There is a qualitative difference with the JKLMM schools -- just about everyone who attends is in-boundary, and just about everyone who is in-boundary who goes to public school attends. This is starkly different from the rest of public education in DC, where roughly three quarters of kids don't attend their in-boundary school. Eaton and Hearst are dominated by OOB kids so they don't fit that profile.

Stoddert is kind of a mixed bag.

Under this definition so is Murch. I don't know anyone other than Murch parents who really believe it is at the JKLM level.

Under what definition? Murch is 90% in bound and 91% in-boundary participation.

[Anonymous]

While I think JKLM is too short, expanding it to include Hearst and Shephard is comical. Stoddert deserves to be there, no doubt. I'm sympathetic to Murch and Eaton as well, though I concede Murch is not on the same level. (I have too little knowledge about Oyster and too short of a track record with Ross to weigh in.)

Hearst may be a wonderful school. But in terms of academic performance, it pales in comparison to JKLMS. Shephard is the same. Hyde would probably be added before Hearst and Shephard.

[Anonymous]

I'm the previous poster. I take some of my comments back. When viewed by subgroup, the scores for Whites are similar enough at Hearst and Murch to be included with Janney and Key. That suggests that the main source of differing overall performance is due to composition effects.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:While I think JKLM is too short, expanding it to include Hearst and Shephard is comical. Stoddert deserves to be there, no doubt. I'm sympathetic to Murch and Eaton as well, though I concede Murch is not on the same level. (I have too little knowledge about Oyster and too short of a track record with Ross to weigh in.)

Hearst may be a wonderful school. But in terms of academic performance, it pales in comparison to JKLMS. Shephard is the same. Hyde would probably be added before Hearst and Shephard.

No need to be so rude using words like "comical." Much as some parents would like to believe, JKLM(M,R?) is not the ivy league.

[Anonymous]

Most of the kids of the kids of color at Janney are biracial, actually--AA/white. You may not realize it if you are only seeing the mom or the nanny. Many of the AA moms who are married to white men are caribbean or 1st or 2nd generation. It is a very common union in the West Indies. Yes, we have secret meetings and handshakes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:With all of the discussion on AA boys in DCPS we would be very interested in hearing the perspective of parents of AA boys currently in elementary schools in the JKLMM cluster, We are currently IB for Janney.

A family I know had an AA son who attended Janney for a couple of years before transferring to a private school. He told me that his son was never invited to parties, which I found interesting. He said his son was hurt because the kids would talk about parties he was not invited to. If that is true, that speaks volumes about the students and parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While statistically, Janney might be very white, and as others have said, it really is much more diverse and multi-colored when you take into account the number of students coming from foreign parents, or adopted, or from gay parents, etc., and while we haven't been at the school long, it seems to be very welcoming to all from what I can tell, but then almost all of the parents/families are coming from a similar social-economic background for the most part. to me the lack of diversity at this type of school is really ses based vs, race/ethnicity.

Sorry, the definition of diversity in DC is pretty simple. AA or not.

from merriam-webster:

: the quality or state of having many different forms, types, ideas, etc.

: the state of having people who are different races or who have different cultures in a group or organization

Where in the f#^K does AA become the defining factor whether it's dc or not? my basic point is that there is a certainly a decent mix of people from different cultures/backgrounds regardless of any gross generalization of their skin color... using your simpleton logic, since AA is the majority of people in dc, a school that is not AA majority would actually be the one that is more diverse in this city... is this the argument you're trying to make?

And what does this have to do with how an AA boy would get treated at this school, I'm just trying to provide context to the OP about the type of environment that exists... Even if a school were 50% white, 50% AA, that would not count as diverse in my book if there were no other cultures/races present...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:While I think JKLM is too short, expanding it to include Hearst and Shephard is comical. Stoddert deserves to be there, no doubt. I'm sympathetic to Murch and Eaton as well, though I concede Murch is not on the same level. (I have too little knowledge about Oyster and too short of a track record with Ross to weigh in.)

Hearst may be a wonderful school. But in terms of academic performance, it pales in comparison to JKLMS. Shephard is the same. Hyde would probably be added before Hearst and Shephard.

Well it's a good think you aren't the queen of Acronyms and others can label it however they want and what schools THEY consider stellar.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With all of the discussion on AA boys in DCPS we would be very interested in hearing the perspective of parents of AA boys currently in elementary schools in the JKLMM cluster, We are currently IB for Janney.

A family I know had an AA son who attended Janney for a couple of years before transferring to a private school. He told me that his son was never invited to parties, which I found interesting. He said his son was hurt because the kids would talk about parties he was not invited to. If that is true, that speaks volumes about the students and parents.

Stop trying to paint all parents and students with one brush. You have no idea if this is true and if it is, why it happened. So no, it doesn't 'speak volumes about the students and parents' at Janney.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With all of the discussion on AA boys in DCPS we would be very interested in hearing the perspective of parents of AA boys currently in elementary schools in the JKLMM cluster, We are currently IB for Janney.

A family I know had an AA son who attended Janney for a couple of years before transferring to a private school. He told me that his son was never invited to parties, which I found interesting. He said his son was hurt because the kids would talk about parties he was not invited to. If that is true, that speaks volumes about the students and parents.

Janney can be a very tough place socially regardless of race. You have the "in" kids/parents who are invited to everything and the "out" kids/parents who are invited to nothing. Thankfully the mafia mentality is dissipating in the younger grades as the school gets larger and is comprised almost entirely of 2 income families. (= less time to get overly involved in the school social scene).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With all of the discussion on AA boys in DCPS we would be very interested in hearing the perspective of parents of AA boys currently in elementary schools in the JKLMM cluster, We are currently IB for Janney.

A family I know had an AA son who attended Janney for a couple of years before transferring to a private school. He told me that his son was never invited to parties, which I found interesting. He said his son was hurt because the kids would talk about parties he was not invited to. If that is true, that speaks volumes about the students and parents.

Janney can be a very tough place socially regardless of race. You have the "in" kids/parents who are invited to everything and the "out" kids/parents who are invited to nothing. Thankfully the mafia mentality is dissipating in the younger grades as the school gets larger and is comprised almost entirely of 2 income families. (= less time to get overly involved in the school social scene).

Janney is not an exception with this perception of being an "in" family. It really boils down to whether or not you choose to make the school community part of your social circle, participate in parent parties/activities, etc. If you participate in enough school associated functions, attend PTA meetings, etc. you will probably end up being invited to more functions. If it's not important to you to be part of the social scene then ignore it. Some people don't align their social lives with their school regardless if they are 2 income families, or not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With all of the discussion on AA boys in DCPS we would be very interested in hearing the perspective of parents of AA boys currently in elementary schools in the JKLMM cluster, We are currently IB for Janney.

A family I know had an AA son who attended Janney for a couple of years before transferring to a private school. He told me that his son was never invited to parties, which I found interesting. He said his son was hurt because the kids would talk about parties he was not invited to. If that is true, that speaks volumes about the students and parents.

My Black kids are invited and not excluded. They have good friends, white, Black, African, Asian, mixed, European, etc... They have not been singled out for being "active" or designated Special Ed.

Please take everything said on this board with a grain of salt.