UMBC or UMD?

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Anonymous wrote:I went to UMBC in the late '80s as an immature little brat. Attending classes with people who were already professionals in their field did wonders for my maturity and skill set. I also made a lot of connections there which led to several summer internships and easy employment once I graduated. It's been 25 years since I graduated and I look back on my education from UMBC as a very positive time. UMBC is quite a bit bigger now but it's still smaller than UMCP which will lead to smaller classes. I think the quality of education will be very similar at both schools.

OP here.
I am reading college confidential and a number of UMBC students end up going to Harvard medical school. I am thinking because the internship opportunities might be better for undergrads at UMBC than at UMD. My DC is very interested in going to med school.

I am hearing really good things about UMBC. The one negative (for my kid) would be that a lot of HS friends are going to UMD (Is this a negative or a positive? I don't know).

Anyways - I am thrilled that as MD residents we have this choice for undergrad. These are solid schools for STEM.

Keep it coming, folks!

OP, you're considering the outcome of one to three kids per year. Per year. Out of thousands at UMBC. There simply is no comparison. UMD-College Park is no warm and fuzzy SLAC but it has dramatically more cred than UMBC ever has or ever will. A degree from UMBC almost implies that the student couldn't get into UMD-CP. Don't buy into a brochure or an article. This is not a debate.

This is the most BS thing I've ever read all day and you have clearly attended neither school. When I applied to graduate school at UChicago, they didn't know the difference between UMBC and UMD. I got accepted to Penn State, SUNY at Binghamton, College Park, and Georgetown for undergrad. I chose to go to UMBC because I chose to be wise and take the school with good opportunities that gave me the most money. College Park is just an overrated school in the middle of the ghetto that everyone who couldnt afford an out of state treats like yale to calm their daddy issues. My dad actually wanted me to avoid college park because of how GHETTO the surrounding area is. The dorms are also really disgusting and bad. It's not worth commuting 1+ hour to when I can get just as decent of an education (if not better) at UMBC. In just 40-50 years of existence, UMBC is already a nationally and globally ranked university. The professors for undergraduate are ranked among the BEST in the country, while UMD's professors are ranked as the 7th worst in the country by Princeton Review, as you can see here: https://www.princetonreview.com/college-rankings?rankings=professors-get-low-marks
UMBC'S president is also extremely famous and has far more credibility than the president at UMD does. There are ivy league institutions that don't know UMD but know of UMBC because of him.

And what you say about numbers out of thousands of umbc students contradicts your statement. UMBC sends MORE students to top 10 med and grad school programs than College Park does, despite being a smaller school.

I am not trying to say UMD is a bad school either, but it's not nearly as different from UMBC academically as most people with insecurities like to pretend it is.

You said a lot of crazy stuff but that is off the chart. Take your med and hit the bed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe you could have gone to a better school if you weren’t so racist, UMBC grad.

How exactly am I racist?

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Anonymous wrote:I went to UMBC in the late '80s as an immature little brat. Attending classes with people who were already professionals in their field did wonders for my maturity and skill set. I also made a lot of connections there which led to several summer internships and easy employment once I graduated. It's been 25 years since I graduated and I look back on my education from UMBC as a very positive time. UMBC is quite a bit bigger now but it's still smaller than UMCP which will lead to smaller classes. I think the quality of education will be very similar at both schools.

OP here.
I am reading college confidential and a number of UMBC students end up going to Harvard medical school. I am thinking because the internship opportunities might be better for undergrads at UMBC than at UMD. My DC is very interested in going to med school.

I am hearing really good things about UMBC. The one negative (for my kid) would be that a lot of HS friends are going to UMD (Is this a negative or a positive? I don't know).

Anyways - I am thrilled that as MD residents we have this choice for undergrad. These are solid schools for STEM.

Keep it coming, folks!

OP, you're considering the outcome of one to three kids per year. Per year. Out of thousands at UMBC. There simply is no comparison. UMD-College Park is no warm and fuzzy SLAC but it has dramatically more cred than UMBC ever has or ever will. A degree from UMBC almost implies that the student couldn't get into UMD-CP. Don't buy into a brochure or an article. This is not a debate.

This is the most BS thing I've ever read all day and you have clearly attended neither school. When I applied to graduate school at UChicago, they didn't know the difference between UMBC and UMD. I got accepted to Penn State, SUNY at Binghamton, College Park, and Georgetown for undergrad. I chose to go to UMBC because I chose to be wise and take the school with good opportunities that gave me the most money. College Park is just an overrated school in the middle of the ghetto that everyone who couldnt afford an out of state treats like yale to calm their daddy issues. My dad actually wanted me to avoid college park because of how GHETTO the surrounding area is. The dorms are also really disgusting and bad. It's not worth commuting 1+ hour to when I can get just as decent of an education (if not better) at UMBC. In just 40-50 years of existence, UMBC is already a nationally and globally ranked university. The professors for undergraduate are ranked among the BEST in the country, while UMD's professors are ranked as the 7th worst in the country by Princeton Review, as you can see here: https://www.princetonreview.com/college-rankings?rankings=professors-get-low-marks
UMBC'S president is also extremely famous and has far more credibility than the president at UMD does. There are ivy league institutions that don't know UMD but know of UMBC because of him.

And what you say about numbers out of thousands of umbc students contradicts your statement. UMBC sends MORE students to top 10 med and grad school programs than College Park does, despite being a smaller school.

I am not trying to say UMD is a bad school either, but it's not nearly as different from UMBC academically as most people with insecurities like to pretend it is.

You said a lot of crazy stuff but that is off the chart. Take your med and hit the bed.

It's true, look at the statistics for yourself. Just because you can't accept the truth doesn't mean that it isn't true. Even in my grad program at UChicago, which is a top 10, there are 4 other UMBC grads. There isn't anyone from UMD.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to UMBC in the late '80s as an immature little brat. Attending classes with people who were already professionals in their field did wonders for my maturity and skill set. I also made a lot of connections there which led to several summer internships and easy employment once I graduated. It's been 25 years since I graduated and I look back on my education from UMBC as a very positive time. UMBC is quite a bit bigger now but it's still smaller than UMCP which will lead to smaller classes. I think the quality of education will be very similar at both schools.

OP here.
I am reading college confidential and a number of UMBC students end up going to Harvard medical school. I am thinking because the internship opportunities might be better for undergrads at UMBC than at UMD. My DC is very interested in going to med school.

I am hearing really good things about UMBC. The one negative (for my kid) would be that a lot of HS friends are going to UMD (Is this a negative or a positive? I don't know).

Anyways - I am thrilled that as MD residents we have this choice for undergrad. These are solid schools for STEM.

Keep it coming, folks!

OP, you're considering the outcome of one to three kids per year. Per year. Out of thousands at UMBC. There simply is no comparison. UMD-College Park is no warm and fuzzy SLAC but it has dramatically more cred than UMBC ever has or ever will. A degree from UMBC almost implies that the student couldn't get into UMD-CP. Don't buy into a brochure or an article. This is not a debate.

This is the most BS thing I've ever read all day and you have clearly attended neither school. When I applied to graduate school at UChicago, they didn't know the difference between UMBC and UMD. I got accepted to Penn State, SUNY at Binghamton, College Park, and Georgetown for undergrad. I chose to go to UMBC because I chose to be wise and take the school with good opportunities that gave me the most money. College Park is just an overrated school in the middle of the ghetto that everyone who couldnt afford an out of state treats like yale to calm their daddy issues. My dad actually wanted me to avoid college park because of how GHETTO the surrounding area is. The dorms are also really disgusting and bad. It's not worth commuting 1+ hour to when I can get just as decent of an education (if not better) at UMBC. In just 40-50 years of existence, UMBC is already a nationally and globally ranked university. The professors for undergraduate are ranked among the BEST in the country, while UMD's professors are ranked as the 7th worst in the country by Princeton Review, as you can see here: https://www.princetonreview.com/college-rankings?rankings=professors-get-low-marks
UMBC'S president is also extremely famous and has far more credibility than the president at UMD does. There are ivy league institutions that don't know UMD but know of UMBC because of him.

And what you say about numbers out of thousands of umbc students contradicts your statement. UMBC sends MORE students to top 10 med and grad school programs than College Park does, despite being a smaller school.

I am not trying to say UMD is a bad school either, but it's not nearly as different from UMBC academically as most people with insecurities like to pretend it is.

You said a lot of crazy stuff but that is off the chart. Take your med and hit the bed.

It's true, look at the statistics for yourself. Just because you can't accept the truth doesn't mean that it isn't true. Even in my grad program at UChicago, which is a top 10, there are 4 other UMBC grads. There isn't anyone from UMD.

Can you post the “truth” so we can all look at??

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We are not really comparing CP with UMBC, right? UMBC is a 4th tier school at best. CP is probably around middle of 2nd tier. Apples and oranges really...

[Anonymous]

OP, one thing to consider is the # of professors verses TA your DC will have. I attended a Big 10 school and had only 2 prof. my entire 4 years and both of those classes had over 200 kids in them. Too, class size does make a difference. I definitely got lost in the shuffle due to the large class sizes.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, one thing to consider is the # of professors verses TA your DC will have. I attended a Big 10 school and had only 2 prof. my entire 4 years and both of those classes had over 200 kids in them. Too, class size does make a difference. I definitely got lost in the shuffle due to the large class sizes.

At UMCP all lectures are taught by professors, all discussion sessions are taught by TAs. Freshmen lecture classes are large but discussion classes are small. Even lecture classes get much smaller starting soph year and def by junior year. I suspect UMBC is similar.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to UMBC in the late '80s as an immature little brat. Attending classes with people who were already professionals in their field did wonders for my maturity and skill set. I also made a lot of connections there which led to several summer internships and easy employment once I graduated. It's been 25 years since I graduated and I look back on my education from UMBC as a very positive time. UMBC is quite a bit bigger now but it's still smaller than UMCP which will lead to smaller classes. I think the quality of education will be very similar at both schools.

OP here.
I am reading college confidential and a number of UMBC students end up going to Harvard medical school. I am thinking because the internship opportunities might be better for undergrads at UMBC than at UMD. My DC is very interested in going to med school.

I am hearing really good things about UMBC. The one negative (for my kid) would be that a lot of HS friends are going to UMD (Is this a negative or a positive? I don't know).

Anyways - I am thrilled that as MD residents we have this choice for undergrad. These are solid schools for STEM.

Keep it coming, folks!

OP, you're considering the outcome of one to three kids per year. Per year. Out of thousands at UMBC. There simply is no comparison. UMD-College Park is no warm and fuzzy SLAC but it has dramatically more cred than UMBC ever has or ever will. A degree from UMBC almost implies that the student couldn't get into UMD-CP. Don't buy into a brochure or an article. This is not a debate.

This is the most BS thing I've ever read all day and you have clearly attended neither school. When I applied to graduate school at UChicago, they didn't know the difference between UMBC and UMD. I got accepted to Penn State, SUNY at Binghamton, College Park, and Georgetown for undergrad. I chose to go to UMBC because I chose to be wise and take the school with good opportunities that gave me the most money. College Park is just an overrated school in the middle of the ghetto that everyone who couldnt afford an out of state treats like yale to calm their daddy issues. My dad actually wanted me to avoid college park because of how GHETTO the surrounding area is. The dorms are also really disgusting and bad. It's not worth commuting 1+ hour to when I can get just as decent of an education (if not better) at UMBC. In just 40-50 years of existence, UMBC is already a nationally and globally ranked university. The professors for undergraduate are ranked among the BEST in the country, while UMD's professors are ranked as the 7th worst in the country by Princeton Review, as you can see here: https://www.princetonreview.com/college-rankings?rankings=professors-get-low-marks
UMBC'S president is also extremely famous and has far more credibility than the president at UMD does. There are ivy league institutions that don't know UMD but know of UMBC because of him.

And what you say about numbers out of thousands of umbc students contradicts your statement. UMBC sends MORE students to top 10 med and grad school programs than College Park does, despite being a smaller school.

I am not trying to say UMD is a bad school either, but it's not nearly as different from UMBC academically as most people with insecurities like to pretend it is.

You said a lot of crazy stuff but that is off the chart. Take your med and hit the bed.

It's true, look at the statistics for yourself. Just because you can't accept the truth doesn't mean that it isn't true. Even in my grad program at UChicago, which is a top 10, there are 4 other UMBC grads. There isn't anyone from UMD.

Hate to say this but I simply do not believe you. Yes, I am calling you a liar. Prove me wrong.

[Anonymous]

The UMBC "genius" doesn't know that "ghetto" is a racist term.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to UMBC in the late '80s as an immature little brat. Attending classes with people who were already professionals in their field did wonders for my maturity and skill set. I also made a lot of connections there which led to several summer internships and easy employment once I graduated. It's been 25 years since I graduated and I look back on my education from UMBC as a very positive time. UMBC is quite a bit bigger now but it's still smaller than UMCP which will lead to smaller classes. I think the quality of education will be very similar at both schools.

OP here.
I am reading college confidential and a number of UMBC students end up going to Harvard medical school. I am thinking because the internship opportunities might be better for undergrads at UMBC than at UMD. My DC is very interested in going to med school.

I am hearing really good things about UMBC. The one negative (for my kid) would be that a lot of HS friends are going to UMD (Is this a negative or a positive? I don't know).

Anyways - I am thrilled that as MD residents we have this choice for undergrad. These are solid schools for STEM.

Keep it coming, folks!

My DC was in the same situation. Wants to go the med school eventually and got into both with generous merit scholarships in both. He was torn because all friends were going to UMD. Anyways decided to go to UMBC and immediately found his cohort and friends group. UMD turned out to be not very close knit community for the school friends who went there and in some ways it was isolating for them. None of the school friends were hanging with each other in UMD because of one reason or another.

My DC is a social person but not a frat boy. So UMBC suited him. It is more of a "nerd school", academics is important, less drinking, less partying. He decided to live in the dorm, comes hoame when he wants to eat home cooked meals, hangs with his school friends and UMBC friends all the time during breaks. He is not an athlete but likes sports, he is social but not a hardcore frat boy.

UMBC is more a teaching college and so he has had build strong rapport with the teachers.

I like the small feel of UMBC, teachers, advisors and dorm mates know him, the school is sufficiently bustling with activity and sufficiently isolated from the general population. Feels a lot more safer than UMD.

I guess the reason of choosing one school over another would be because of other factors like - athletics, fraternities and sororities, merit/ need based scholarship given, access to coveted programs, friends, lifestyle preference etc. Good luck.

[Anonymous]

Sigh. Another useful topic ruined DCUM-style. Can we stop trying to claim that one school is “better”. Obviously there must be pros and cons to each. All of you who are arguing that UMCP or UMBC is the bestest school around are just embarrassing. I have actually attended both but it has been awhile and I’m interested in what they are like now...from people with actual experience and not just pre-conceived notions. They are both fine schools but can we discuss maybe the type of student who will be successful at each? I know, I know... why do I even try?

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Anonymous wrote:I went to UMBC in the late '80s as an immature little brat. Attending classes with people who were already professionals in their field did wonders for my maturity and skill set. I also made a lot of connections there which led to several summer internships and easy employment once I graduated. It's been 25 years since I graduated and I look back on my education from UMBC as a very positive time. UMBC is quite a bit bigger now but it's still smaller than UMCP which will lead to smaller classes. I think the quality of education will be very similar at both schools.

OP here.
I am reading college confidential and a number of UMBC students end up going to Harvard medical school. I am thinking because the internship opportunities might be better for undergrads at UMBC than at UMD. My DC is very interested in going to med school.

I am hearing really good things about UMBC. The one negative (for my kid) would be that a lot of HS friends are going to UMD (Is this a negative or a positive? I don't know).

Anyways - I am thrilled that as MD residents we have this choice for undergrad. These are solid schools for STEM.

Keep it coming, folks!

My DC was in the same situation. Wants to go the med school eventually and got into both with generous merit scholarships in both. He was torn because all friends were going to UMD. Anyways decided to go to UMBC and immediately found his cohort and friends group. UMD turned out to be not very close knit community for the school friends who went there and in some ways it was isolating for them. None of the school friends were hanging with each other in UMD because of one reason or another.

My DC is a social person but not a frat boy. So UMBC suited him. It is more of a "nerd school", academics is important, less drinking, less partying. He decided to live in the dorm, comes hoame when he wants to eat home cooked meals, hangs with his school friends and UMBC friends all the time during breaks. He is not an athlete but likes sports, he is social but not a hardcore frat boy.

UMBC is more a teaching college and so he has had build strong rapport with the teachers.

I like the small feel of UMBC, teachers, advisors and dorm mates know him, the school is sufficiently bustling with activity and sufficiently isolated from the general population. Feels a lot more safer than UMD.

I guess the reason of choosing one school over another would be because of other factors like - athletics, fraternities and sororities, merit/ need based scholarship given, access to coveted programs, friends, lifestyle preference etc. Good luck.

12:17 here. Thank you! This is exactly the type of helpful feedback that I want more of!!

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The only "bad" thing I can think of re. CP is, unless you have a self-driven kid, you can get lost. You very much own your actions and inactions. It can be very much sink or swim environment. On the positive note, however, it can teach kids good life lessons. I am not sure if UMBC is any different but I have no opinion on that.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to UMBC in the late '80s as an immature little brat. Attending classes with people who were already professionals in their field did wonders for my maturity and skill set. I also made a lot of connections there which led to several summer internships and easy employment once I graduated. It's been 25 years since I graduated and I look back on my education from UMBC as a very positive time. UMBC is quite a bit bigger now but it's still smaller than UMCP which will lead to smaller classes. I think the quality of education will be very similar at both schools.

OP here.
I am reading college confidential and a number of UMBC students end up going to Harvard medical school. I am thinking because the internship opportunities might be better for undergrads at UMBC than at UMD. My DC is very interested in going to med school.

I am hearing really good things about UMBC. The one negative (for my kid) would be that a lot of HS friends are going to UMD (Is this a negative or a positive? I don't know).

Anyways - I am thrilled that as MD residents we have this choice for undergrad. These are solid schools for STEM.

Keep it coming, folks!

OP, you're considering the outcome of one to three kids per year. Per year. Out of thousands at UMBC. There simply is no comparison. UMD-College Park is no warm and fuzzy SLAC but it has dramatically more cred than UMBC ever has or ever will. A degree from UMBC almost implies that the student couldn't get into UMD-CP. Don't buy into a brochure or an article. This is not a debate.

This is the most BS thing I've ever read all day and you have clearly attended neither school. When I applied to graduate school at UChicago, they didn't know the difference between UMBC and UMD. I got accepted to Penn State, SUNY at Binghamton, College Park, and Georgetown for undergrad. I chose to go to UMBC because I chose to be wise and take the school with good opportunities that gave me the most money. College Park is just an overrated school in the middle of the ghetto that everyone who couldnt afford an out of state treats like yale to calm their daddy issues. My dad actually wanted me to avoid college park because of how GHETTO the surrounding area is. The dorms are also really disgusting and bad. It's not worth commuting 1+ hour to when I can get just as decent of an education (if not better) at UMBC. In just 40-50 years of existence, UMBC is already a nationally and globally ranked university. The professors for undergraduate are ranked among the BEST in the country, while UMD's professors are ranked as the 7th worst in the country by Princeton Review, as you can see here: https://www.princetonreview.com/college-rankings?rankings=professors-get-low-marks
UMBC'S president is also extremely famous and has far more credibility than the president at UMD does. There are ivy league institutions that don't know UMD but know of UMBC because of him.

And what you say about numbers out of thousands of umbc students contradicts your statement. UMBC sends MORE students to top 10 med and grad school programs than College Park does, despite being a smaller school.

I am not trying to say UMD is a bad school either, but it's not nearly as different from UMBC academically as most people with insecurities like to pretend it is.

You said a lot of crazy stuff but that is off the chart. Take your med and hit the bed.

It's true, look at the statistics for yourself. Just because you can't accept the truth doesn't mean that it isn't true. Even in my grad program at UChicago, which is a top 10, there are 4 other UMBC grads. There isn't anyone from UMD.

Can you post the “truth” so we can all look at??

What? About UMBC's president being ranked as one of the most influential people in the country, being featured on Ted Talks, 60 minutes, while none of those things are true for UMD'S prevident?

https://youtu.be/by5xaIs3B-g
https://youtu.be/SLYMLt4MQ0Y
https://youtu.be/siuX3IGrM10

Or about UMBCs undergraduate professors being ranked as higher than UMDs? (And one of the top 10 in the country)
http://news.umbc.edu/u-s-news-again-honors-umbc-as-a-national-leader-in-innovation-and-teaching/

Vs UMD's professors, which are ranked as the 7th worst in the country:

https://www.princetonreview.com/college-rankings?rankings=professors-get-low-marks

UMD didn't even remotely have this much recognition when it was only 50 year
What? About UMBC's president being ranked as one of the most influential people in the country, being featured on Ted Talks, 60 minutes, while none of those things are true for UMD'S prevident?

https://youtu.be/by5xaIs3B-g
https://youtu.be/SLYMLt4MQ0Y
https://youtu.be/siuX3IGrM10

Or about UMBCs undergraduate professors being ranked as higher than UMDs? (And one of the top 10 in the country)
http://news.umbc.edu/u-s-news-again-honors-umbc-as-a-national-leader-in-innovation-and-teaching/

Vs UMD's professors, which are ranked as the 7th worst in the country:

https://www.princetonreview.com/college-rankings?rankings=professors-get-low-marks

UMBC ranked among world's best universities by Times Higher Ed, an honor that only 150 US univerisities recieved:

http://news.umbc.edu/times-higher-education-recognizes-umbc-as-one-of-the-worlds-top-universities-2016-17/

UMBC's graduates from the class of 2006 and 2007. Notice how far more than just "a few" went onto schools like Harvard, Yale, UChicago, Princeton, Duke, JHU, etc, for graduate school.
http://www.umbc.edu/classof2006/
http://www.umbc.edu/classof2007/

Harvards president has a deep relationship with UMBC's president and UMBC was the only school where Harvards president spoke at a university commencement that wasn't Harvard's.

UMD didn't even remotely have this much recognition when it was only 50 years old, and these types of rankings are very rare for school that is as young as UMBC. It took College Park 100+ years to become nationally ranked, while it only took UMBC 40. These types of rankings are very rare for school that is as young as UMBC.

Again, I'm not implying that UMD is a bad school. I'm just so sick of people spreading false information about UMBC and shying them away to go to such an overrated state school like UMD. It's honestly hilarious because when I applied to UChicago for graduate school they didn't even know there was a difference between UMD and UMBC, they assumed they were the same school, yet here are people claiming absolute bs things like "UMBC is not in the same tier as UMD," or that UMD apparently has soooo much more credibility than UMBC.

I am all for whoever is reading this to go to whatever school they feel best at. Obviously UMBC is not for everybody, but apparently everyone in this thread thinks that UMBC is good for nobody, which is just NOT true. I love my old school and there is nothing wrong with that.

UMBC is an amazing univeristy and I am highly confident that UMD wouldn't have prepared me for my grad program at UChicago like the way UMBC did. That is my opinion, as a real UMBC alumni and not some random people on this thread who sound like they have extremely outdated opinions and haven't been in maryland since the late 90s or early 2000s, back when the biggest song on the radio was "hit me baby one more time" by brittany spears. Ya'll need to update your opinions because youre very wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to UMBC in the late '80s as an immature little brat. Attending classes with people who were already professionals in their field did wonders for my maturity and skill set. I also made a lot of connections there which led to several summer internships and easy employment once I graduated. It's been 25 years since I graduated and I look back on my education from UMBC as a very positive time. UMBC is quite a bit bigger now but it's still smaller than UMCP which will lead to smaller classes. I think the quality of education will be very similar at both schools.

OP here.
I am reading college confidential and a number of UMBC students end up going to Harvard medical school. I am thinking because the internship opportunities might be better for undergrads at UMBC than at UMD. My DC is very interested in going to med school.

I am hearing really good things about UMBC. The one negative (for my kid) would be that a lot of HS friends are going to UMD (Is this a negative or a positive? I don't know).

Anyways - I am thrilled that as MD residents we have this choice for undergrad. These are solid schools for STEM.

Keep it coming, folks!

OP, you're considering the outcome of one to three kids per year. Per year. Out of thousands at UMBC. There simply is no comparison. UMD-College Park is no warm and fuzzy SLAC but it has dramatically more cred than UMBC ever has or ever will. A degree from UMBC almost implies that the student couldn't get into UMD-CP. Don't buy into a brochure or an article. This is not a debate.

This is the most BS thing I've ever read all day and you have clearly attended neither school. When I applied to graduate school at UChicago, they didn't know the difference between UMBC and UMD. I got accepted to Penn State, SUNY at Binghamton, College Park, and Georgetown for undergrad. I chose to go to UMBC because I chose to be wise and take the school with good opportunities that gave me the most money. College Park is just an overrated school in the middle of the ghetto that everyone who couldnt afford an out of state treats like yale to calm their daddy issues. My dad actually wanted me to avoid college park because of how GHETTO the surrounding area is. The dorms are also really disgusting and bad. It's not worth commuting 1+ hour to when I can get just as decent of an education (if not better) at UMBC. In just 40-50 years of existence, UMBC is already a nationally and globally ranked university. The professors for undergraduate are ranked among the BEST in the country, while UMD's professors are ranked as the 7th worst in the country by Princeton Review, as you can see here: https://www.princetonreview.com/college-rankings?rankings=professors-get-low-marks
UMBC'S president is also extremely famous and has far more credibility than the president at UMD does. There are ivy league institutions that don't know UMD but know of UMBC because of him.

And what you say about numbers out of thousands of umbc students contradicts your statement. UMBC sends MORE students to top 10 med and grad school programs than College Park does, despite being a smaller school.

I am not trying to say UMD is a bad school either, but it's not nearly as different from UMBC academically as most people with insecurities like to pretend it is.

You said a lot of crazy stuff but that is off the chart. Take your med and hit the bed.

It's true, look at the statistics for yourself. Just because you can't accept the truth doesn't mean that it isn't true. Even in my grad program at UChicago, which is a top 10, there are 4 other UMBC grads. There isn't anyone from UMD.

Hate to say this but I simply do not believe you. Yes, I am calling you a liar. Prove me wrong.

What? About UMBC's president being ranked as one of the most influential people in the country, being featured on Ted Talks, 60 minutes, while none of those things are true for UMD'S prevident?

https://youtu.be/by5xaIs3B-g
https://youtu.be/SLYMLt4MQ0Y
https://youtu.be/siuX3IGrM10

Or about UMBCs undergraduate professors being ranked as higher than UMDs? (And one of the top 10 in the country)
http://news.umbc.edu/u-s-news-again-honors-umbc-as...er-in-innovation-and-teaching/

Vs UMD's professors, which are ranked as the 7th worst in the country:

https://www.princetonreview.com/college-rankings?r...kings=professors-get-low-marks

UMBC ranked among world's best universities by Times Higher Ed, an honor that only 150 US univerisities recieved:

http://news.umbc.edu/times-higher-education-recogn...rlds-top-universities-2016-17/

UMBC's graduates from the class of 2006 and 2007. Notice how far more than just "a few" went onto schools like Harvard, Yale, UChicago, Princeton, Duke, JHU, etc, for graduate school.
http://www.umbc.edu/classof2006/
http://www.umbc.edu/classof2007/

Harvards president has a deep relationship with UMBC's president and UMBC was the only school where Harvards president spoke at a university commencement that wasn't Harvard's.

UMD didn't even remotely have this much recognition when it was only 50 years old, and these types of rankings are very rare for school that is as young as UMBC. It took College Park 100+ years to become nationally ranked, while it only took UMBC 40. These types of rankings are very rare for school that is as young as UMBC.

Again, I'm not implying that UMD is a bad school. I'm just so sick of people spreading false information about UMBC and shying them away to go to such an overrated state school like UMD. It's honestly hilarious because when I applied to UChicago for graduate school they didn't even know there was a difference between UMD and UMBC, they assumed they were the same school, yet here are people claiming absolute bs things like "UMBC is not in the same tier as UMD," or that UMD apparently has soooo much more credibility than UMBC.

I am all for whoever is reading this to go to whatever school they feel best at. Obviously UMBC is not for everybody, but apparently everyone in this thread thinks that UMBC is good for nobody, which is just NOT true. I love my old school and there is nothing wrong with that.

UMBC is an amazing univeristy and I am highly confident that UMD wouldn't have prepared me for my grad program at UChicago like the way UMBC did. That is my opinion, as a real UMBC alumni and not some random people on this thread who sound like they have extremely outdated opinions and haven't been in maryland since the late 90s or early 2000s, back when the biggest song on the radio was "hit me baby one more time" by brittany spears. Ya'll need to update your opinions because youre very wrong.