How come no one seems to be concerned about all the "study drug" taking by our high school students?

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Didn't take too long before whites begin hanging this one on the Asians too. My kid has been at TJ for 3 years and he has never heard of any Asian students using ADHD drugs. However, the NY Times article does quote Mclean High School students/graduates abusing such a drug. Now all of sudden Asians are "adapting the culture' as opposed to 'those foreigners sticking to themselves and speaking foreign languages etc." Whatever is convenient. I don't think many people will buy the argument that this is an Asian thing. Asians are notorious for not going to psychologists/psychiatrists. You haven't been around Asians too much.

Asian here, and this is very true, sometimes to the detriment of the kids. It is very taboo to go see a mental health professional. The incidence of suicide among Asian youths is quite high due to academic pressures (usually brought on by parents), and there is a push among some Asian community leaders to de-shame seeing mental health professionals.

Yep, and if an Asian kid actually does counseling/treatment, his/her parents will not discuss this fact as freely as American parents would - again due to the shame factor.

The point is that Asian kids do not go to psychiatrists as often as white kids and certainly not to obtain ADHD drugs to use or sell compared to white kids.

Says who? That is so untrue.

Asian people.

They will not talk about it but they go and get ADHD meds as soon as the kids get a B. They also cheat, teach their kids it is okay to cheat and they do their kids homework for them. It's pathetic.

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Didn't take too long before whites begin hanging this one on the Asians too. My kid has been at TJ for 3 years and he has never heard of any Asian students using ADHD drugs. However, the NY Times article does quote Mclean High School students/graduates abusing such a drug. Now all of sudden Asians are "adapting the culture' as opposed to 'those foreigners sticking to themselves and speaking foreign languages etc." Whatever is convenient. I don't think many people will buy the argument that this is an Asian thing. Asians are notorious for not going to psychologists/psychiatrists. You haven't been around Asians too much.

Asian here, and this is very true, sometimes to the detriment of the kids. It is very taboo to go see a mental health professional. The incidence of suicide among Asian youths is quite high due to academic pressures (usually brought on by parents), and there is a push among some Asian community leaders to de-shame seeing mental health professionals.

Yep, and if an Asian kid actually does counseling/treatment, his/her parents will not discuss this fact as freely as American parents would - again due to the shame factor.

The point is that Asian kids do not go to psychiatrists as often as white kids and certainly not to obtain ADHD drugs to use or sell compared to white kids.

Says who? That is so untrue.

Asian people.

They will not talk about it but they go and get ADHD meds as soon as the kids get a B. They also cheat, teach their kids it is okay to cheat and they do their kids homework for them. It's pathetic.

How do you know? Curious. I'm Asian. I've never heard anyone mention this, nor has it ever happened to me personally, so if no one talks about it, how do you know?

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Didn't take too long before whites begin hanging this one on the Asians too. My kid has been at TJ for 3 years and he has never heard of any Asian students using ADHD drugs. However, the NY Times article does quote Mclean High School students/graduates abusing such a drug. Now all of sudden Asians are "adapting the culture' as opposed to 'those foreigners sticking to themselves and speaking foreign languages etc." Whatever is convenient. I don't think many people will buy the argument that this is an Asian thing. Asians are notorious for not going to psychologists/psychiatrists. You haven't been around Asians too much.

Asian here, and this is very true, sometimes to the detriment of the kids. It is very taboo to go see a mental health professional. The incidence of suicide among Asian youths is quite high due to academic pressures (usually brought on by parents), and there is a push among some Asian community leaders to de-shame seeing mental health professionals.

Yep, and if an Asian kid actually does counseling/treatment, his/her parents will not discuss this fact as freely as American parents would - again due to the shame factor.

The point is that Asian kids do not go to psychiatrists as often as white kids and certainly not to obtain ADHD drugs to use or sell compared to white kids.

Says who? That is so untrue.

Asian people.

And you must be white.

No, I'm actually Asian.

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Anonymous wrote:It's pathetic and it's also can cause psychological problems and brain damage in the long run. But many people in this area don't think about the long run and pin too much on hitting short-term success markers. (HS GPA, etc.) The problem is that you create kids that get out in the real world and don't feel they can compete without aids.

The other thing is that so many kids are on ADHD medicine that the power of these drugs has been demystified. Everyone has friends on them and they seem to be okay, so....Plus, the drugs work, they sharpen focus, keep kids alert. Know of one standout athlete/student at our local HS who is known as the Addy guy. Is aiming for Ivy or little Ivy and just may get in. But so what? Life is long and too sadly shortcuts, which is all these pills are is for many kids, have a way of catching up. My oldest kid knew kids who used this stuff and he always viewed it as cheating. I do the best to convince his sibs of the same. You've only got one mind, why play with it with powerful drugs when it's still developing?

I feel sad that so many parents are caught up in their kids success that they look the other way or even encourage stimulant use. So proud their kids aren't drinking or smoking pot. What a joke!

And then they turn around and crap on Asians for studying too hard. No wonder Asians have to study hard; white kids are cheating and taking 'study drugs" to gain an advantage.

You do know that Asian kids are taught to cheat. google it... there was a huge article on it... riots in the street when 1 testing center would not let kids cheat on the test.

They cheat using other methods than drugs. Either way, it's cheating.

So what are we saying, that the majority of these high achievers, especially in these precious W schools, are cheating either with drugs or other methods?

They happen to be a big part of W schools but it happens everywhere especially AAP. In one of our AAP classes it basically became a reversed classroom because it was impossible to get the kids to do their own work.

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Didn't take too long before whites begin hanging this one on the Asians too. My kid has been at TJ for 3 years and he has never heard of any Asian students using ADHD drugs. However, the NY Times article does quote Mclean High School students/graduates abusing such a drug. Now all of sudden Asians are "adapting the culture' as opposed to 'those foreigners sticking to themselves and speaking foreign languages etc." Whatever is convenient. I don't think many people will buy the argument that this is an Asian thing. Asians are notorious for not going to psychologists/psychiatrists. You haven't been around Asians too much.

Asian here, and this is very true, sometimes to the detriment of the kids. It is very taboo to go see a mental health professional. The incidence of suicide among Asian youths is quite high due to academic pressures (usually brought on by parents), and there is a push among some Asian community leaders to de-shame seeing mental health professionals.

Yep, and if an Asian kid actually does counseling/treatment, his/her parents will not discuss this fact as freely as American parents would - again due to the shame factor.

The point is that Asian kids do not go to psychiatrists as often as white kids and certainly not to obtain ADHD drugs to use or sell compared to white kids.

Says who? That is so untrue.

Asian people.

They will not talk about it but they go and get ADHD meds as soon as the kids get a B. They also cheat, teach their kids it is okay to cheat and they do their kids homework for them. It's pathetic.

How do you know? Curious. I'm Asian. I've never heard anyone mention this, nor has it ever happened to me personally, so if no one talks about it, how do you know?

You really need to google Asian's and cheating. I will say that much of my family is going the opposite direction because as 2nd generation Asians they realize how much it is hurting their kids. My Aunt went totally the other way with her kids. But that is still not the norm.

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Anonymous wrote:I graduated from college in 1990 and people were taking stimulants then too. This is not new.

Heck, my mom graduated from college in 1964 and people were taking speed to help them study.

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Didn't take too long before whites begin hanging this one on the Asians too. My kid has been at TJ for 3 years and he has never heard of any Asian students using ADHD drugs. However, the NY Times article does quote Mclean High School students/graduates abusing such a drug. Now all of sudden Asians are "adapting the culture' as opposed to 'those foreigners sticking to themselves and speaking foreign languages etc." Whatever is convenient. I don't think many people will buy the argument that this is an Asian thing. Asians are notorious for not going to psychologists/psychiatrists. You haven't been around Asians too much.

Asian here, and this is very true, sometimes to the detriment of the kids. It is very taboo to go see a mental health professional. The incidence of suicide among Asian youths is quite high due to academic pressures (usually brought on by parents), and there is a push among some Asian community leaders to de-shame seeing mental health professionals.

Yep, and if an Asian kid actually does counseling/treatment, his/her parents will not discuss this fact as freely as American parents would - again due to the shame factor.

The point is that Asian kids do not go to psychiatrists as often as white kids and certainly not to obtain ADHD drugs to use or sell compared to white kids.

Says who? That is so untrue.

Asian people.

They will not talk about it but they go and get ADHD meds as soon as the kids get a B. They also cheat, teach their kids it is okay to cheat and they do their kids homework for them. It's pathetic.

How do you know? Curious. I'm Asian. I've never heard anyone mention this, nor has it ever happened to me personally, so if no one talks about it, how do you know?

You really need to google Asian's and cheating. I will say that much of my family is going the opposite direction because as 2nd generation Asians they realize how much it is hurting their kids. My Aunt went totally the other way with her kids. But that is still not the norm.

No, I know some Asians cheat (as do other people). The previous PP was talking about Asians getting Rx for ADHD, too, just not talking about it. I bolded it for you. So, what I'm saying is how do you know that Asians are taking their kids to see Pscyhs and getting ADHD rx if they don't talk about it.

I'm not saying there aren't some Asians (mostly 2nd generation as you stated) that do see mental health professionals. But I still don't see how you or the other poster knows that Asians go see psychs to get ADHD Rx if they are not talking about it.

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Some kids have always taken speed. The difference today is that their parents now buy it for them and call it medication.

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Didn't take too long before whites begin hanging this one on the Asians too. My kid has been at TJ for 3 years and he has never heard of any Asian students using ADHD drugs. However, the NY Times article does quote Mclean High School students/graduates abusing such a drug. Now all of sudden Asians are "adapting the culture' as opposed to 'those foreigners sticking to themselves and speaking foreign languages etc." Whatever is convenient. I don't think many people will buy the argument that this is an Asian thing. Asians are notorious for not going to psychologists/psychiatrists. You haven't been around Asians too much.

Asian here, and this is very true, sometimes to the detriment of the kids. It is very taboo to go see a mental health professional. The incidence of suicide among Asian youths is quite high due to academic pressures (usually brought on by parents), and there is a push among some Asian community leaders to de-shame seeing mental health professionals.

Yep, and if an Asian kid actually does counseling/treatment, his/her parents will not discuss this fact as freely as American parents would - again due to the shame factor.

The point is that Asian kids do not go to psychiatrists as often as white kids and certainly not to obtain ADHD drugs to use or sell compared to white kids.

Says who? That is so untrue.

Asian people.

They will not talk about it but they go and get ADHD meds as soon as the kids get a B. They also cheat, teach their kids it is okay to cheat and they do their kids homework for them. It's pathetic.

How do you know? Curious. I'm Asian. I've never heard anyone mention this, nor has it ever happened to me personally, so if no one talks about it, how do you know?

You really need to google Asian's and cheating. I will say that much of my family is going the opposite direction because as 2nd generation Asians they realize how much it is hurting their kids. My Aunt went totally the other way with her kids. But that is still not the norm.

No, I know some Asians cheat (as do other people). The previous PP was talking about Asians getting Rx for ADHD, too, just not talking about it. I bolded it for you. So, what I'm saying is how do you know that Asians are taking their kids to see Pscyhs and getting ADHD rx if they don't talk about it.

I'm not saying there aren't some Asians (mostly 2nd generation as you stated) that do see mental health professionals. But I still don't see how you or the other poster knows that Asians go see psychs to get ADHD Rx if they are not talking about it.

We have a joke in our family. It goes like this... whisper, "Joe has ADHD, don't tell anybody"... then loudly in front of the whole family, "Hey did you give Joe is Adderall?"

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Anonymous wrote:Some kids have always taken speed. The difference today is that their parents now buy it for them and call it medication.

So true. And there is a huge difference between speed, which maybe kids started trying in late h.s. and college in previous generations, and Ritalin and Adderall, which some kids now have now been on since grade school.