Liberty, Regents College or George Mason? Which is most conservative?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Among the 3 you listed, George Mason is an actual college, if that makes a difference.

LOL! So true!

Brilliant!!! Absolutely brilliant!

No George Mason is the largest University (not college) in the state of VA. It has students from all 50 states and 135 countries. 37,000 attend, over 1/3 are master's or doctoral degree students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When you call VMI and service academies conservative, what does that mean. Are people economicmically "conservative? A lot of professed Christians? One of the problems with discussions about conservativism (or liberalism) is that those terms can mean many different things. There seems to be a correlation in this country between religiousness, favoring low taxes and low public benefits, and (often hawkish defense policy), and vice versa for "liberals," but really hard to understand why these things should correlate. Bottom line as some of the posters point out, one really needs to define ones terms. In general smarter, more sophisticated people in this country tend towards traditionally liberal positions, but not always, of course.

That last sentence is such a stereotype and generalization.

There are more "smarter, more sophisticated" conservatives out there than you realize, they are just not making a lot of noise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh yes, by all means you should pick a school based on its political leanings as opposed to looking for one that has excellent academics and strives to remain unbiased in its intellectual inquiry.

So, you won't be bitching about "liberal" schools, right, if "conservatives" are allowed to have theirs too?

Personally, I think any school that allows itself to demonstrate obvious political leanings in its academics is a shit school that isn't worth going to. Heaven forbid snowflake should be subjected to opposing viewpoints. I mean, argument and reasoning are only the foundation of actual learning, after all.

Eye. Roll.

Have you visited many universities?

If this is your honest viewpoint then you must think that 90% of the universities in this country are "shit schools" as they very clearly have obvious political leanings and have no desire to open dialogue with any opposing viewpoint whatsoever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh yes, by all means you should pick a school based on its political leanings as opposed to looking for one that has excellent academics and strives to remain unbiased in its intellectual inquiry.

So, you won't be bitching about "liberal" schools, right, if "conservatives" are allowed to have theirs too?

Personally, I think any school that allows itself to demonstrate obvious political leanings in its academics is a shit school that isn't worth going to. Heaven forbid snowflake should be subjected to opposing viewpoints. I mean, argument and reasoning are only the foundation of actual learning, after all.

Eye. Roll.

Have you visited many universities?

If this is your honest viewpoint then you must think that 90% of the universities in this country are "shit schools" as they very clearly have obvious political leanings and have no desire to open dialogue with any opposing viewpoint whatsoever.

A bit of an exaggeration, don't you think? Can you say that you've visited all of these schools, engaged with professors in the classroom setting or other students in another setting in order to profess that 90% of American colleges do not accept opposing dialogue?

I'm not arguing that American colleges/universities often lean toward the liberal, but to suggest that there is absolutely no engagement and discussion of differing views is simply wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh yes, by all means you should pick a school based on its political leanings as opposed to looking for one that has excellent academics and strives to remain unbiased in its intellectual inquiry.

So, you won't be bitching about "liberal" schools, right, if "conservatives" are allowed to have theirs too?

Personally, I think any school that allows itself to demonstrate obvious political leanings in its academics is a shit school that isn't worth going to. Heaven forbid snowflake should be subjected to opposing viewpoints. I mean, argument and reasoning are only the foundation of actual learning, after all.

Eye. Roll.

Have you visited many universities?

If this is your honest viewpoint then you must think that 90% of the universities in this country are "shit schools" as they very clearly have obvious political leanings and have no desire to open dialogue with any opposing viewpoint whatsoever.

IME, when American so-called conservatives (reactionary is actually a better description) complain about the "liberal" climate at many U.S. universities, what they really mean is they can't handle people challenging their worldview. As a group, American "conservatives" have the biggest persecution copmplex I've ever seen.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:GMU should've even be in the category with the others. Go to that wackadoodle small college in VA training up the future fundies, if that's what you are after. (Patrick Henry? Is that right?)

Robert Bork hailed George Mason and Shenandoah College as the two most conservative schools in Virgina.

Loooooooong time ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh yes, by all means you should pick a school based on its political leanings as opposed to looking for one that has excellent academics and strives to remain unbiased in its intellectual inquiry.

So, you won't be bitching about "liberal" schools, right, if "conservatives" are allowed to have theirs too?

Personally, I think any school that allows itself to demonstrate obvious political leanings in its academics is a shit school that isn't worth going to. Heaven forbid snowflake should be subjected to opposing viewpoints. I mean, argument and reasoning are only the foundation of actual learning, after all.

Eye. Roll.

Have you visited many universities?

If this is your honest viewpoint then you must think that 90% of the universities in this country are "shit schools" as they very clearly have obvious political leanings and have no desire to open dialogue with any opposing viewpoint whatsoever.

IME, when American so-called conservatives (reactionary is actually a better description) complain about the "liberal" climate at many U.S. universities, what they really mean is they can't handle people challenging their worldview. As a group, American "conservatives" have the biggest persecution copmplex I've ever seen.

" they can't handle people challenging their worldview"

I suppose this explains the trend toward disinviting speakers who might challenge the prevailing worldview:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/greg-lukianoff/new-report-the-push-again_b_5417664.html

The only problem with PP's thesis is that the speakers being disinvited aren't exactly espousing the liberal/progressive worldview.

[Anonymous]

Good point, and witty too.

So anyway, I don'w know anything about Regents, but I do know a bit about both Liberty and GMU, and my impression is that both schools have done a pretty good job in the past few years of improving their programs and gaining greater recognition.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Among the 3 you listed, George Mason is an actual college, if that makes a difference.

LOL! So true!

I thought Mason was a commuter school way out in Fairfax - not a flame, seriously. And I have lived here for years...

Educate thyself. 55 million endowment. 33,000 students. 12,000 in masters or doctoral programs. Commuting days are over. No. 1 in ratings for "Up and Coming University". Haven't you noticed all those ads in the Weekend section of Wash. Post featuring bands, dancers, art festivals, lectures, etc. at GMU? It has state of the art buildings and labs. And read up on Mason Korea. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Mason_University. www.GMU.edu.

George Mason has a $55 Million endowment
Liberty has a $1,000 Million endowment.

Sounds like Liberty wins by a multiple of 20.

U.S. News must be way off then. It says the endowment is $58.6 million.

Plus, George Mason is a state school so the legislature helps fund it in addition to its endowment.

VT endowment dwarfs GMU. It's almost pathetic.

Let's see, VT was established in 1872 as a land-grant state military school and has many many supportive alums. GMU was established by the legislature in 1957 and necessarily has fewer supportive alums, but the state legislature is pouring millions into it right now so it has become the largest university in the State of VA and will continue to grow, comprende?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:GMU should've even be in the category with the others. Go to that wackadoodle small college in VA training up the future fundies, if that's what you are after. (Patrick Henry? Is that right?)

Robert Bork hailed George Mason and Shenandoah College as the two most conservative schools in Virgina.

Loooooooong time ago.

Honey, he died only sixteens months ago.

[Anonymous]

GMU should've even be in the category with the others. Go to that wackadoodle small college in VA training up the future fundies, if that's what you are after. (Patrick Henry? Is that right?)


Robert Bork hailed George Mason and Shenandoah College as the two most conservative schools in Virgina.


Loooooooong time ago.



Honey, he died only sixteens months ago.

Yes, but he was relevant 30 years ago.

[Anonymous]

OP -- there are no real conservative equivalents to the really good liberal arts schools and universities.

There are good schools where conservatives are enough of a vocal minority that she will have clubs to join and friends to make and won't be relentlessly mocked, for example, if she chooses to go to church on Sunday.

Dartmouth and Princeton come to mind.

As for non-Ivies, I wonder about some state schools in more conservative states (the South?) such as UVA, or Ole Miss, as well as Sewanee.

I would just generally tell her to avoid SLAC, which are essentially boarding schools writ large. Exceptions might also be schools with very strong STEM -- Union, RPI, MIT, Carnegie Mellon . . .

Liberals like to think they are sticking it to the man, but I don't think they realize to what extent they have become "the man."

College campuses have become tough places to disagree with the prevailing liberal orthodoxy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP -- there are no real conservative equivalents to the really good liberal arts schools and universities.

There are good schools where conservatives are enough of a vocal minority that she will have clubs to join and friends to make and won't be relentlessly mocked, for example, if she chooses to go to church on Sunday.

Dartmouth and Princeton come to mind.

As for non-Ivies, I wonder about some state schools in more conservative states (the South?) such as UVA, or Ole Miss, as well as Sewanee.

I would just generally tell her to avoid SLAC, which are essentially boarding schools writ large. Exceptions might also be schools with very strong STEM -- Union, RPI, MIT, Carnegie Mellon . . .

Liberals like to think they are sticking it to the man, but I don't think they realize to what extent they have become "the man."

College campuses have become tough places to disagree with the prevailing liberal orthodoxy.

+1. I caught on by the time I hit law school. I disagreed with all my professors political points of view but learned just to dish it back on exams and get my A.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP -- there are no real conservative equivalents to the really good liberal arts schools and universities.

There are good schools where conservatives are enough of a vocal minority that she will have clubs to join and friends to make and won't be relentlessly mocked, for example, if she chooses to go to church on Sunday.

Dartmouth and Princeton come to mind.

As for non-Ivies, I wonder about some state schools in more conservative states (the South?) such as UVA, or Ole Miss, as well as Sewanee.

I would just generally tell her to avoid SLAC, which are essentially boarding schools writ large. Exceptions might also be schools with very strong STEM -- Union, RPI, MIT, Carnegie Mellon . . .

Liberals like to think they are sticking it to the man, but I don't think they realize to what extent they have become "the man."

College campuses have become tough places to disagree with the prevailing liberal orthodoxy.

+1. I caught on by the time I hit law school. I disagreed with all my professors political points of view but learned just to dish it back on exams and get my A.

More right-wing victimology.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP -- there are no real conservative equivalents to the really good liberal arts schools and universities.

There are good schools where conservatives are enough of a vocal minority that she will have clubs to join and friends to make and won't be relentlessly mocked, for example, if she chooses to go to church on Sunday.

Dartmouth and Princeton come to mind.

As for non-Ivies, I wonder about some state schools in more conservative states (the South?) such as UVA, or Ole Miss, as well as Sewanee.

I would just generally tell her to avoid SLAC, which are essentially boarding schools writ large. Exceptions might also be schools with very strong STEM -- Union, RPI, MIT, Carnegie Mellon . . .

Liberals like to think they are sticking it to the man, but I don't think they realize to what extent they have become "the man."

College campuses have become tough places to disagree with the prevailing liberal orthodoxy.

+1. I caught on by the time I hit law school. I disagreed with all my professors political points of view but learned just to dish it back on exams and get my A.

:roll: More right-wing victimology.

Say how?