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Anonymous wrote:Losing your IB status makes no sense. What if the school you choose doesn't work for your child? Our children change as they grow and something that works for PK might not work for the later grades.

Then they can get IB status the flowing school year.

But they should have to lottery in for it.

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Anonymous wrote:For K:

Hearst
Eaton
Murch
Lafayette
Mundo Verde
Janney
Mann
Inspired Teaching School
Cap City
Stoddert
Hyde-Addison
EL Haynes

IB for Powell, and probably would rank it below ITS.

Wow - and Powell is nowhere on your list. What will you do if you (likely) get shut out and not into a single one of these schools?!?

it's for K, therefore he/she will have the right to show up the first day of school (assume her child may be there already).

This example seems to support an argument that families who eschew their local DCPS in the lottery, should not have the continued right to show up and enroll whenever they want. This sort of lottery playing, where your local school remains your back-up plan, but the school isn't aware, will only cause havoc on the school's budget and enrollment projections. I imagine this poster's child is already at Powell. They know they can stay, but will jump if they get a spot at any school above IT. OK, that's cool. But if you get a spot, accept it but then decide after a month or two that the commute is terrible and the school isn't all that you had hoped and you want to go back to Powell, I don't think you should be able to. That's completely unfair to school, the budget, the families who already committed, etc. These are the sort of things the boundary, feeder pattern committee is looking at.

Completely with you. I think if you give up your IB preference after K, you should lose your right to attend the school. No DCPS should be a "back up plan" but a place you invest in. It's not fair for the other children and families.

Agreed. And I'm not picking on this particular poster...particularly since she clarified that she's not at Powell now. As she rightly pointed out, inboundary families can't "lottery" for K and above because they get in as a matter of right. But once you do make the decision to not exercise that right by enrolling in and attending another public school (DCPS or charter) you should not just be able to show up whenever you want. If you want to get back into your old local school, you should have to lottery for it as if you were OOB.

Jeez, folks. I can't put Powell down for K! We are not at Powell. My example does not support your argument. Pick on someone else, please.

They are simply stating that if you get in any one of the 12 schools above, you should lose your IB status.

Agreed.

I disagree that PP should not be able to go to Powell for 1st grade if she accepts a K place through the lottery. That's completely messed up! What if the other school is not a good fit? What if the family needs to not drive from Petworth to Cleveland Park or Brookland every morning? I understand what you guys are getting at, but suggesting that a person should not be able to go to their neighborhood school unless they start in kindergarten is completely unreasonable.

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Anonymous wrote:Not only is OP all over the map in terms of location, there does not seem to be any rhyme or reason when it comes to teaching philosophy, language immersion/no language, etc. I'm sure OP had his/her own criteria, but I don't see a pattern.

Everyone has their reasons for what they do and so it does not need to make sense to you.

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can we get back to the lists?

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Anonymous wrote:For K:

Hearst
Eaton
Murch
Lafayette
Mundo Verde
Janney
Mann
Inspired Teaching School
Cap City
Stoddert
Hyde-Addison
EL Haynes

IB for Powell, and probably would rank it below ITS.

Wow - and Powell is nowhere on your list. What will you do if you (likely) get shut out and not into a single one of these schools?!?

it's for K, therefore he/she will have the right to show up the first day of school (assume her child may be there already).

This example seems to support an argument that families who eschew their local DCPS in the lottery, should not have the continued right to show up and enroll whenever they want. This sort of lottery playing, where your local school remains your back-up plan, but the school isn't aware, will only cause havoc on the school's budget and enrollment projections. I imagine this poster's child is already at Powell. They know they can stay, but will jump if they get a spot at any school above IT. OK, that's cool. But if you get a spot, accept it but then decide after a month or two that the commute is terrible and the school isn't all that you had hoped and you want to go back to Powell, I don't think you should be able to. That's completely unfair to school, the budget, the families who already committed, etc. These are the sort of things the boundary, feeder pattern committee is looking at.

Completely with you. I think if you give up your IB preference after K, you should lose your right to attend the school. No DCPS should be a "back up plan" but a place you invest in. It's not fair for the other children and families.

Agreed. And I'm not picking on this particular poster...particularly since she clarified that she's not at Powell now. As she rightly pointed out, inboundary families can't "lottery" for K and above because they get in as a matter of right. But once you do make the decision to not exercise that right by enrolling in and attending another public school (DCPS or charter) you should not just be able to show up whenever you want. If you want to get back into your old local school, you should have to lottery for it as if you were OOB.

Jeez, folks. I can't put Powell down for K! We are not at Powell. My example does not support your argument. Pick on someone else, please.

They are simply stating that if you get in any one of the 12 schools above, you should lose your IB status.

Agreed.

I disagree that PP should not be able to go to Powell for 1st grade if she accepts a K place through the lottery. That's completely messed up! What if the other school is not a good fit? What if the family needs to not drive from Petworth to Cleveland Park or Brookland every morning?

OK, but it comes down to budgeting and planning for enrollment. If the charter you lottery into is not a good fit and you would prefer to return to your neighborhood school then you should have to wait until the following school you and submit enrollment documents early enough so that your school can plan and account for your child's attendance. Anyway, that's my opinion and what I've expressed to the boundary, feeder pattern committee.

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Lists please!!!!

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Anonymous wrote:NP and not picking--I swear--just curious why Powell would be at the bottom of your list.

It isn't. If I can convince my DH, it would be after ITS on the list.

And I agree, let's get back to listing schools and take up whether my kids should lose their right to attend Powell on another thread.

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Anonymous wrote:NP and not picking--I swear--just curious why Powell would be at the bottom of your list.

Not the poster who put Powell at the bottom, but I put Powell at the bottom for PK3 and I am in bounds for Powell and honestly, if we get in to Powell, I probably wont go and will just go private until first grade. Why? No diversity in student population (like 84% latino, 99% or something FARMS, 65% english language learners), no diversity among faculty, no inquiry based learning, low test scores, low parent involvement, and I am not convinced that Tools of the Minds is a curriculum that actually makes a difference -- unlike Montessori and inquiry based learning. I do not care how much folks say it is turning around--based on the tour I did, I prefer to wait until it turns. Because we are in bounds, I can always join it at K if there is indeed a real turnaround and it becomes a place I want to be. Save your comments that I should be a part of the turnaround. I have enough to do and prefer not to add sup par public school crusader to my list.

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I disagree that PP should not be able to go to Powell for 1st grade if she accepts a K place through the lottery. That's completely messed up! What if the other school is not a good fit? What if the family needs to not drive from Petworth to Cleveland Park or Brookland every morning? I understand what you guys are getting at, but suggesting that a person should not be able to go to their neighborhood school unless they start in kindergarten is completely unreasonable.

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Anonymous wrote:NP and not picking--I swear--just curious why Powell would be at the bottom of your list.

Not the poster who put Powell at the bottom, but I put Powell at the bottom for PK3 and I am in bounds for Powell and honestly, if we get in to Powell, I probably wont go and will just go private until first grade. Why? No diversity in student population (like 84% latino, 99% or something FARMS, 65% english language learners), no diversity among faculty, no inquiry based learning, low test scores, low parent involvement, and I am not convinced that Tools of the Minds is a curriculum that actually makes a difference -- unlike Montessori and inquiry based learning. I do not care how much folks say it is turning around--based on the tour I did, I prefer to wait until it turns. Because we are in bounds, I can always join it at K if there is indeed a real turnaround and it becomes a place I want to be. Save your comments that I should be a part of the turnaround. I have enough to do and prefer not to add sup par public school crusader to my list.

But you will come in once the hard work is done? Why put Powell on your list at all? Please, stay where you are.

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Anonymous wrote:Losing your IB status makes no sense. What if the school you choose doesn't work for your child? Our children change as they grow and something that works for PK might not work for the later grades.

Then they can get IB status the flowing school year.

But they should have to lottery in for it.

No, you should not lose your IB status the following year. If you lotteried into a charter or OOB DCPS for 2014 school year, you lost your IB status for that year. If you want to go to your school and opt out of lottery 2015, then you should be able to go to your IB. In 2015, if you lottery and enroll in another school, then you lose your IB status again, etc etc

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Anonymous wrote:Not only is OP all over the map in terms of location, there does not seem to be any rhyme or reason when it comes to teaching philosophy, language immersion/no language, etc. I'm sure OP had his/her own criteria, but I don't see a pattern.

Not OP, but her list is similar to mine. Most schools are inquiry-based and student-centered. Her schools include expeditionary learning, Reggio, international baccalaureate, and Montessori programs. Bridges uses an inquiry-based model that is a lot like the International Baccalaureate PYP, although more locally-focused. I'd say the schools she lists are actually pretty similar in their student-centered approach to learning. The ones that don't seem to follow this are Haynes (still not sure what they do) and Walls@F-S (Tools for PS, which definitely has some element of choice but also has some structure to it).

OP here--- this poster hit it on the head. Haynes was added bc I know a PK3 teacher there and think the world of her, as well as several happy young elementary families. Walls is other child drop off convenient. I can't overemphasize how important convenience is. We are dealing with it now in daycare, and I know how much "easier" drop off makes for easier days for everyone. Here's to not being number 1492 in the lottery pull!

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Anonymous wrote:For K:

Hearst
Eaton
Murch
Lafayette
Mundo Verde
Janney
Mann
Inspired Teaching School
Cap City
Stoddert
Hyde-Addison
EL Haynes

IB for Powell, and probably would rank it below ITS.

Wow - and Powell is nowhere on your list. What will you do if you (likely) get shut out and not into a single one of these schools?!?

it's for K, therefore he/she will have the right to show up the first day of school (assume her child may be there already).

This example seems to support an argument that families who eschew their local DCPS in the lottery, should not have the continued right to show up and enroll whenever they want. This sort of lottery playing, where your local school remains your back-up plan, but the school isn't aware, will only cause havoc on the school's budget and enrollment projections. I imagine this poster's child is already at Powell. They know they can stay, but will jump if they get a spot at any school above IT. OK, that's cool. But if you get a spot, accept it but then decide after a month or two that the commute is terrible and the school isn't all that you had hoped and you want to go back to Powell, I don't think you should be able to. That's completely unfair to school, the budget, the families who already committed, etc. These are the sort of things the boundary, feeder pattern committee is looking at.

Completely with you. I think if you give up your IB preference after K, you should lose your right to attend the school. No DCPS should be a "back up plan" but a place you invest in. It's not fair for the other children and families.

Agreed. And I'm not picking on this particular poster...particularly since she clarified that she's not at Powell now. As she rightly pointed out, inboundary families can't "lottery" for K and above because they get in as a matter of right. But once you do make the decision to not exercise that right by enrolling in and attending another public school (DCPS or charter) you should not just be able to show up whenever you want. If you want to get back into your old local school, you should have to lottery for it as if you were OOB.

Jeez, folks. I can't put Powell down for K! We are not at Powell. My example does not support your argument. Pick on someone else, please.

They are simply stating that if you get in any one of the 12 schools above, you should lose your IB status.

Agreed.

I disagree that PP should not be able to go to Powell for 1st grade if she accepts a K place through the lottery. That's completely messed up! What if the other school is not a good fit? What if the family needs to not drive from Petworth to Cleveland Park or Brookland every morning? I understand what you guys are getting at, but suggesting that a person should not be able to go to their neighborhood school unless they start in kindergarten is completely unreasonable.

Then they should have factored that into the lottery in the first place.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NP and not picking--I swear--just curious why Powell would be at the bottom of your list.

Not the poster who put Powell at the bottom, but I put Powell at the bottom for PK3 and I am in bounds for Powell and honestly, if we get in to Powell, I probably wont go and will just go private until first grade. Why? No diversity in student population (like 84% latino, 99% or something FARMS, 65% english language learners), no diversity among faculty, no inquiry based learning, low test scores, low parent involvement, and I am not convinced that Tools of the Minds is a curriculum that actually makes a difference -- unlike Montessori and inquiry based learning. I do not care how much folks say it is turning around--based on the tour I did, I prefer to wait until it turns. Because we are in bounds, I can always join it at K if there is indeed a real turnaround and it becomes a place I want to be. Save your comments that I should be a part of the turnaround. I have enough to do and prefer not to add sup par public school crusader to my list.

But you will come in once the hard work is done? Why put Powell on your list at all? Please, stay where you are.

Whether you like it or not, Powell is still a neighborhood school, it is not a charter. The imaginary poster should be able to get IB the following year, not the current year where projected class size, budgets have already been established.

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For K
Mundo Verde
Bancroft
Tyler SI

But I am pretty (though not entirely) sure I would only leave our current school for MV. Just put the others down because... well, I don't know really, especially re Tyler, which is very far from us. But the form looked so blank! We just really want language immersion and think this year is our last shot for it.