How to check AMC 8 results online?

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No one ever wants to admit this but the AMC is definitely a test you can figure out with practice. Now if a kid is figuring out the tricks on his own that’s talent. I say this as a parent of a child who is great at math, algebra I before 6th, aops student, yada yada yada. IMO it’s all training. I wonder if that’s a more eastern way of looking at high achievement though.


There is a huge difference in the philosophies. Americans love the idea of "natural talent." A more eastern philosophy would celebrate the hard work and resulting achievement much moreso than natural talent. No one ever wants to admit this, but unless you're at the extremely elite levels in math, music, sports, art, or whatever, it's generally all about training rather than natural talent.


Yes, talent is a necessary prerequisite at the highest levels, but training is vastly more important for doing well at the highest level. The kids at or near the top train for hours a day, every day. A significant number of kids could do well on the AMCs just on natural talent with minimal training (obviously not most, but not just the rare few). On the other hand, it's virtually impossible to do really well on the higher levels of competitions without extensive training. But I agree in general that western culture wants to put more value on "natural talent" than training/hard work than they should.

There is an eastern European who trained his 3 daughters right from early ages for chess. All 3 ranked in the top 15. Two of them in the top 6 I think.

Wow! Can you imagine the reaction if someone tried that today? They might as well be the worst, most houthousing tiger parent in the world!
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Anonymous wrote:

No one ever wants to admit this but the AMC is definitely a test you can figure out with practice. Now if a kid is figuring out the tricks on his own that’s talent. I say this as a parent of a child who is great at math, algebra I before 6th, aops student, yada yada yada. IMO it’s all training. I wonder if that’s a more eastern way of looking at high achievement though.


There is a huge difference in the philosophies. Americans love the idea of "natural talent." A more eastern philosophy would celebrate the hard work and resulting achievement much moreso than natural talent. No one ever wants to admit this, but unless you're at the extremely elite levels in math, music, sports, art, or whatever, it's generally all about training rather than natural talent.


Yes, talent is a necessary prerequisite at the highest levels, but training is vastly more important for doing well at the highest level. The kids at or near the top train for hours a day, every day. A significant number of kids could do well on the AMCs just on natural talent with minimal training (obviously not most, but not just the rare few). On the other hand, it's virtually impossible to do really well on the higher levels of competitions without extensive training. But I agree in general that western culture wants to put more value on "natural talent" than training/hard work than they should.

There is an eastern European who trained his 3 daughters right from early ages for chess. All 3 ranked in the top 15. Two of them in the top 6 I think.

Wow! Can you imagine the reaction if someone tried that today? They might as well be the worst, most houthousing tiger parent in the world!


Yes indeed.

This is the person I am talking about

https://gcpawards.com/blog/laszlo-polgar-the-man-who-raised-three-child-prodigies

Somewhere in the 1960s, Laszlo Polgar presented a theory that great performers are made and not born. He believed that he could raise a genius himself. When he tried to explain his intentions, the local government asked him to see a psychiatrist.

The first daughter, Susan Polgar was a top rank player at the age of 15. By 1984, she had become the top-ranked female chess player in the world at the tender age of 15. She was the first woman to qualify for the Men’s World Championship in 1986. Susan went on to achieve the coveted title of a grandmaster in 1991. She became the first woman in history to win the Chess triple crown.

Sofia Polgar, the second daughter, became sixth top female chess player.

The third daughter, Judit Polgar became the greatest female chess player ever. In 2002, Judit beat Kasparov, after which he walked out of the table with angst apparent on his face. The incident made him change his opinion about the effect of gender on Chess.

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Conclusion
Laszlo Polgar managed to prove his theory right after decades of effort, both his own and that of his daughters’. His experiment is one of the most extraordinary experiments in the history of human education. He believes that when a child is born healthy, it is a potential genius. Whether that happens or not depends on the upbringing and the effort put in.
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The most interesting part, IMO, is that he met his wife by posting a newspaper ad saying he wanted a partner to raise some prodigies.
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Oh and don't forget - they were homeschooled. I think that's a crucial fact, as being homeschooled gave them both the time and the pro-achievement social environment necessary for excellence. He also wrote a book, Bring Up Genius!
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Anonymous wrote:Oh and don't forget - they were homeschooled. I think that's a crucial fact, as being homeschooled gave them both the time and the pro-achievement social environment necessary for excellence. He also wrote a book, Bring Up Genius!


He also wrote a chess tactics book, presumably this was used during the girls' early training.

https://www.amazon.com/Chess-5334-Problems-Combinations-Games/dp/1579125549

Don't bother buying it as most of the tactics are easy and the book is mammoth in size, and the diagrams are tiny.. it's much simpler to get a digital file of these tactics puzzles and import it into any chess program such as Fritz and kids can then work on the tactics on a large board on the computer.
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Anonymous wrote:Oh and don't forget - they were homeschooled. I think that's a crucial fact, as being homeschooled gave them both the time and the pro-achievement social environment necessary for excellence. He also wrote a book, Bring Up Genius!


Shh... Remember, homeschooling is only for rural prairie dress-wearing Christian fundamentalists.
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Anonymous wrote:Oh and don't forget - they were homeschooled. I think that's a crucial fact, as being homeschooled gave them both the time and the pro-achievement social environment necessary for excellence. He also wrote a book, Bring Up Genius!


He also wrote a chess tactics book, presumably this was used during the girls' early training.

https://www.amazon.com/Chess-5334-Problems-Combinations-Games/dp/1579125549

Don't bother buying it as most of the tactics are easy and the book is mammoth in size, and the diagrams are tiny.. it's much simpler to get a digital file of these tactics puzzles and import it into any chess program such as Fritz and kids can then work on the tactics on a large board on the computer.


Where can someone find the digital file of these tactics puzzles?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oh and don't forget - they were homeschooled. I think that's a crucial fact, as being homeschooled gave them both the time and the pro-achievement social environment necessary for excellence. He also wrote a book, Bring Up Genius!


He also wrote a chess tactics book, presumably this was used during the girls' early training.

https://www.amazon.com/Chess-5334-Problems-Combinations-Games/dp/1579125549

Don't bother buying it as most of the tactics are easy and the book is mammoth in size, and the diagrams are tiny.. it's much simpler to get a digital file of these tactics puzzles and import it into any chess program such as Fritz and kids can then work on the tactics on a large board on the computer.


Where can someone find the digital file of these tactics puzzles?


https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/chess-puzzles-in-pgn-format---help-please (post #3)
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The MAA site will show scores above 17 or so.
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How do we check the scores
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Our score was sent to us by the proctor the day after the test had been given to everyone. The AMC 8 Website has not posted the cut offs for Honor Roll or Distinguished Honor Roll.
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Anonymous wrote:How do we check the scores


Our score was sent to us by the proctor the day after the test had been given to everyone. The AMC 8 Website has not posted the cut offs for Honor Roll or Distinguished Honor Roll.


Our proctor forgets about the tests and then is suspected to make up phony numbers when the students nag for scores.
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My daughter scored 23 in second grade.
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Anonymous wrote:Our 4th Grader scored 4. Is that any good for a 4th grader.
absolutely horrible
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