Concentrations of AAP Students at Selected Schools

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Anonymous wrote:NP here; seems to me the reference to the PP's "unelectable child" deserved the karma response. Pretty rude.

Jeez. I thought the PP was herself claiming her kid was unelectable because she was not one of the "popular" AAP kids.

Sorry, but this is much ado. There are a gazillion other things to do at or outside school other than serve on a student council. Personally, it just makes me think of Tracy Flick from Election.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a bit of an aside but another side effect of having a larger AAP population than Gen Ed is it is harder for Gen Ed kids to get elected to student council. The AAP kids all know each other better and tend to vote for each other. I see it at DC'S center.

Good point.

You should suggest that they do it differently. At our Center, two students (one rep plus one alternate) are elected from each classroom.

In addition, there should be a rule saying that no child can be elected more than once to student council (regardless of GE/AAP). In our school, the same kids get elected year after year. What does that say to the other kids?

Are you serious? It tells them that they think some kids are leaders. It says that they need to campaign harder if they want to be elected instead.In a few years, hardly anyone remembers who was on student council.

Um, yes, I am serious. I'm talking about the kids who are elected classroom reps, not the older ones who actually have to campaign. The same kids are voted classroom reps, year after year. It's a popularity contest, plain and simple.

From what my child has said the decisions about who to vote for are made almost completely based on looks. It isn't really popularity since the kids may not know the candidate in question at all, but if the person is good-looking (e.g., the prettiest girl), they will get the votes. It sounds like only my child and one other in their AAP class voted based on what the candidates actually said, though that could be an exaggeration.

[Anonymous]

Doesn't your center school have representatives for the general education classes, too? DC is in GE at a center school, and they voted this week for two children from their individual class.

DC said he was voting for the two children that talked the longest. To him, they seemed to want it the most since they had taken the time to prepare the speech and spoke at length about why they wanted it. DC said he wasn't interested, because the meetings were during recess. In his mind, only a fool would want to give up their recess. Probably why he's in GE

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Doesn't your center school have representatives for the general education classes, too? DC is in GE at a center school, and they voted this week for two children from their individual class.

DC said he was voting for the two children that talked the longest. To him, they seemed to want it the most since they had taken the time to prepare the speech and spoke at length about why they wanted it. DC said he wasn't interested, because the meetings were during recess. In his mind, only a fool would want to give up their recess. Probably why he's in GE

Our school doesn't have the kids give speeches if they're just being nominated for classroom reps. The kids just throw out names and vote on them. It's a popularity contest, pure and simple. My kid is in AAP and would also never give up his recess. It's his favorite part of the day.
And yes, GE also has classroom reps and it's done the same way.

[Anonymous]

Ah, classic DCUM! A discussion that began with statistics ends up in a snark-fest about student councils and popularity. Hijacked again.

And those whining about how those awful AAP kids prevent their non-AAP kids from getting onto student council -- bravo, you found yet ANOTHER thing that you can blame on AAP!

[Anonymous]

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Ah, classic DCUM! A discussion that began with statistics ends up in a snark-fest about student councils and popularity. Hijacked again.

And those whining about how those awful AAP kids prevent their non-AAP kids from getting onto student council -- bravo, you found yet ANOTHER thing that you can blame on AAP!

This discussion had nothing to do with AAP kids vs. GE kids as regards student council. It was about how the same kids (regardless of AAP/GE status) are elected classroom reps year after year. Why don't you read more carefully before chiming in with your own snark fest.

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Ah, classic DCUM! A discussion that began with statistics ends up in a snark-fest about student councils and popularity. Hijacked again.

And those whining about how those awful AAP kids prevent their non-AAP kids from getting onto student council -- bravo, you found yet ANOTHER thing that you can blame on AAP!

+1. Last poster obviously didn't read the thread.

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Ah, classic DCUM! A discussion that began with statistics ends up in a snark-fest about student councils and popularity. Hijacked again.

And those whining about how those awful AAP kids prevent their non-AAP kids from getting onto student council -- bravo, you found yet ANOTHER thing that you can blame on AAP!

This discussion had nothing to do with AAP kids vs. GE kids as regards student council. It was about how the same kids (regardless of AAP/GE status) are elected classroom reps year after year. Why don't you read more carefully before chiming in with your own snark fest.

Nope, please read the entire thread. One poster claimed that AAP kids rule the student council at her kids' school because the AAP kids all vote for each other and the GE kids can't get on the council because of that. So yes, someone did indeed make student council an issue of AAP kids versus GE kids. Next time be sure you read it all yourself before telling others to do so.

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Ah, classic DCUM! A discussion that began with statistics ends up in a snark-fest about student councils and popularity. Hijacked again.

And those whining about how those awful AAP kids prevent their non-AAP kids from getting onto student council -- bravo, you found yet ANOTHER thing that you can blame on AAP!

This discussion had nothing to do with AAP kids vs. GE kids as regards student council. It was about how the same kids (regardless of AAP/GE status) are elected classroom reps year after year. Why don't you read more carefully before chiming in with your own snark fest.

Nope, please read the entire thread. One poster claimed that AAP kids rule the student council at her kids' school because the AAP kids all vote for each other and the GE kids can't get on the council because of that. So yes, someone did indeed make student council an issue of AAP kids versus GE kids. Next time be sure you read it all yourself before telling others to do so.

As a participant in the entire thread (18:51 and 20:03), my point was that regardless of whether a child is AAP or GE, the same kids get elected as classroom reps each year. Which is true. AAP/GE status really has nothing to do with it at our center school, as these classes are separate. I was saying that within each class, it's the same kids. And the point some of us were trying to make is that the administration should make sure different kids have a chance to serve on student council each year.

[Anonymous]

Then you'd all be complaining about how the administrators favored the kids of popular PTA moms rather than complaining about the re-election of the popular kids. I can think of a gazillion things that I'd rather have a school administrator focus her attention on than on engineering the composition of an elementary school's student council.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a bit of an aside but another side effect of having a larger AAP population than Gen Ed is it is harder for Gen Ed kids to get elected to student council. The AAP kids all know each other better and tend to vote for each other. I see it at DC'S center.

Good point.

You should suggest that they do it differently. At our Center, two students (one rep plus one alternate) are elected from each classroom.

In addition, there should be a rule saying that no child can be elected more than once to student council (regardless of GE/AAP). In our school, the same kids get elected year after year. What does that say to the other kids?

Are you serious? It tells them that they think some kids are leaders. It says that they need to campaign harder if they want to be elected instead.In a few years, hardly anyone remembers who was on student council.

Um, yes, I am serious. I'm talking about the kids who are elected classroom reps, not the older ones who actually have to campaign. The same kids are voted classroom reps, year after year. It's a popularity contest, plain and simple.

From what my child has said the decisions about who to vote for are made almost completely based on looks. It isn't really popularity since the kids may not know the candidate in question at all, but if the person is good-looking (e.g., the prettiest girl), they will get the votes. It sounds like only my child and one other in their AAP class voted based on what the candidates actually said, though that could be an exaggeration.

My kid said the kid who wins is the one who is the funniest one, who can also appeal to the 4th and 5th graders, who are apparently the coveted swing vote.

This year the kid who president was not the one that the 6th graders mostly voted for, but the younger kids carried the day.

Politics

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Doesn't your center school have representatives for the general education classes, too? DC is in GE at a center school, and they voted this week for two children from their individual class.

DC said he was voting for the two children that talked the longest. To him, they seemed to want it the most since they had taken the time to prepare the speech and spoke at length about why they wanted it. DC said he wasn't interested, because the meetings were during recess. In his mind, only a fool would want to give up their recess. Probably why he's in GE

Sounds like he is the smart one