Bethesda Magazine - List of College Acceptances
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I know this is off-topic, but the Visual Arts program at Einstein is a county-wide magnet by application (not lottery), and the Leadership Training Institute at Kennedy and the engineering magnets at Wheaton are all application only within the Downcounty Consortium, not lottery. |
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Cheaper? I don't know. COL is cheaper but the salaraies and job secuirty there don't compare. But I DO know that a lot of DMV kids (public and private) have traditionally attended Michigan and have done well. My earlier point is that if a parent is paying $390,000 with the sole hope that their DC is admitted to an HYP....let me just say that I am not so sure that is an ace strategy either. Honestly, if I wanted my kid to have a better chance at being admitted at an HYP, I would move to Michigan. At my private HS in Michigan, there were not 20+ people applying to a single Ivy from my class. There were about 10 of us applying to all the Ivies combined. All 5 of us (including me) were accepted at an Ivy. Only one attended though. 5 of us went to Michigan, one to Stanford, one to Northwestern and 2 to U Chicago. |
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Whitman grad from 20 years ago. As I recall back then, we also has about 1-2 kids per year getting accepted to Harvard. Of course, our class size was 300-350, and I think at Whitman it's now 500.
I'd say leave the data for a few of the very top "name" schools like Harvard aside from all comparisons, and the reason is that education has changed a lot recently in terms of admissions. Schools like Harvard have a huge name abroad, so they're getting a flood of applicants, particularly from China. Harvard sends a team of people to China every year just to interview applicants. They like non-US residents because they are usually ineligible for financial aid (by US law) = paying full price. Now even the third-tier universities are getting in on this game (recruiting in China) because the money is so good. But in Chinese society, Harvard is ultra-prestigious so everyone applies. Drop just a few schools down on the list, and they just aren't as well known abroad, so that more accurately represents US schools competing for US students. What is striking to me is the huge numbers at local high schools going to UMD. It is a good school, and I think that along with the huge savings from in-state tuition make for a compelling case. Tuition pricing, and more importantly the student loans that fund them, are going to be the next big bubble. As of 1-2 years ago, there is now more student loan debt in this country than credit card debt. And unlike credit card debt, student loan debt cannot usually be discharged in a bankruptcy. Ok I'm getting off on a tangent so I'll stop there. I'm in the university industry, and I travel to China frequently, so that's where I'm coming from. |
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| Best thread ever.... |
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^ Typing too quickly - all 10 of us were accepted at an Ivy |
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| Sidwell doesn't have as many Havard legacies as STA - makes a difference |
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I don't see why we're screwing around in this discussion with partial and obscure results from Sidwell; we all know Sidwell keeps their students' data on lock-down, and the data PP posted is crappy and incomplete. Let's just do a full comparison against private schools that provide lots of data.
2013 grads: School / class size / # attending Ivy colleges / % attending Ivy Holton Arms: 85 seniors / 11 to Ivy / 13% Landon: 78 seniors / 9 to Ivy / 12% Potomac: ~90 seniors / 9 to Ivy / 10% (5yr average) GPrep: ~115 seniors / 8 to Ivy / 7% Bullis: ~100 seniors / 3 to Ivy / 3% (5yr average) Whitman: 461 seniors / 20 to Ivy / 4% Note: I know Ivy colleges are not the only good colleges out there, and I know lots of people might prefer certain non-Ivy colleges. But they provide an easy measuring stick for this sort of comparison. If you want to compare the high schools based on some other measure (e.g., USNWR top-25 colleges, HYPMS, top party schools in the PAC-10, etc), be my guest. |
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| No difference across the river. Most of the uber-geniuses at TJHSST matriculate at UVA, WMU and VT. Sure, they send a disproportionate share to HYPM. But their families believe in obtaining a first-rate education at public school costs. So, if you don't get admitted to HYPM, don't screw around with the high-cost SLACs and hyper-priced second tiers. These TJ kids that go to UVA and VT are working at the likes of Google and Facebook. |
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| + 100,000 |
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The big difference between the top publics' exmissions and the top privates' exmissions? Family finances. Step out of your bubbles, won't you, and take a look at the realities facing families who aren't already shelling out $35k/year for private school.
Your average two-govt worker family with a household income of $200k faces the following facts: - None of the Ivies offers merit aid. None of the Ivies. - The $200k HHI family won't qualify for any financial aid. - The $200k HHI family will probably be hard put to pay the full $60k/year Ivy/private university tuition. - UMD and UVA look like bargains by comparison. - Early decision boosts your acceptance chances dramatically, but it's a game for families that can lock into a school without waiting to see the financial aid award. Why you guys can't see this is mystifying. Welcome to the real world. |
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shhhh..now why did you have to type that?  lol...
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+200,000
Most of the posters are accustomed to purchasing privilege....as long as they continue to believe in that premise for college admissions, tuition costs will continue to soar. Just rec'd the matriculation scan for Yale, fully 50% are paying full freight ticket of $58,600. Smoke'm if you got'em. |
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| Whitman's 20 to Ivy is greater than any Private you posted. If you are a superlative student (and I don't mean "above-average" in the DMV MoCo sense), it becomes a numbers game. You have a better chance becoming one of the 20 vs. one of 5,6,7,8,9. Monte Carlo that, will ya? |
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| Private school parents are always defending their selection for private vs. public. You don't have to...it's all about dollars and cents. You can afford it, Nike it (just do it). For public school parents, it's all about dollars and sense. With post-secondary education costs rising through the roof, they can't afford to pay for pre-college education and college. So relax. Pore over the percentages, Naviance data, and alumni checks as much as you can. Hope, Toddy, Brewster, and Kennedy will end up at the country club no matter what college they attend. |
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Yes, I'm sure every family looks at college costs and factors that into decisions. And perhaps that analysis scares off some students from matriculating/applying. But the Holton/Landon % are three times higher than the Whitman percentages. Are you really trying to argue that three times as many Whitman students would have been admitted to Ivy colleges, but simply chose not to apply because they couldn't afford it? That seems unlikely to me. Also, FWIW, are student loans no longer available? When I attended college, I was in the exact situation you describe -- parents made enough to limit my financial aid options, but not enough to pay for college -- so I just financed my college tuition via low-cost student loans. I spent the first several years of my working life paying those off, but that's just the price I had to pay. Even dumb me knew it was a smart bargain. And if I'd been admitted to some fancy-pants college like Harvard or Yale, I'd surely have taken on extra loans in a heart-beat. |