OT: Racist field trip video

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:05:47- I think you have misunderstood several posts and gone on a rant because of that. My "disgusting and offensive" post was about the use of the word niglet. I find it a nasty word. Reread the first quoted post in your 05:47 post, then read the post in response to it. I was not speaking about the whole story- I spoke about the use of one word in the story. That is clear if you actually read it.

There is more than one black person in this thread. Some find the story funny. Some don't. I actually posted earlier that the story was amusing because of the idiocy of the teacher. So your rant is quite misguided and I can't/won't answer your numerous questions about blame and anger.

If you weren't angry, you would have responded to my questions, as they are indeed contextually appropriate.

Niglet, for example, is only one small part of a larger picture, correct? So if niglet makes you angry, how do you address that and other words that are offensive to some but apparently embraced by the younger generation? Do you stop kids in the street when you hear those word? If you're not part of the solution; you're part of the problem, right?

And then you, like others, found the story funny b/c of the idiocy of the teacher. As a white teacher, I agree. very idiotic! But had this young boy been angry in retelling the story, how would you have reacted? I can't imagine you'd find it humorous. Yet he had a way of poking fun at a sad situation in order to garner support from people he didn't even know!

Kids don't know their history, and what many do hear are angry words spouted out by angry parents. So while cuz is just fine, nigger is not. And and a white teacher, while I do my fair share of discussing why certain words are not appropriate, if I don't have rapport with students, who are majority minority (nice oxymoron), no amount of preaching will change them b/c all they see is a white face.

So what I am saying is that even though this video may have been posted as a form of "entertainment," it did indeed cause a reaction - bringing forth deep rooted resentment. Admit it. And hiring more white teachers will not create change. again - part of the problem if you're not part of the solution

I'm not the pp, but I must ask you a question. Why is it the responsible of a black person to address the misbehaving of a child that does not belong to us, just because they are black? Are you actually advocating going up to children/teens and correcting their inappropriate language? I would never do that.

It is obvious that you are white, because you seem to be of the often -seen group of people who think that black people should be held accountable for the actions of others within their race.

There is a difference between nigger and nigga. There is a difference in context in the way blacks use the word and the way that (some) whites do.

BTW, re: the telling of our history, what do you mean by black kids only learning "angry words spouted by their angry parents"? Are you suggesting that black adults are pissed about past injustices and are teaching their children to be angry?

I truly hope you aren't a teacher. If you are, I now see why DCPS are so effed up.

[Anonymous]

14:12- I'm not angry and never said I was, so how would I be able to address your questions which are meant for those who are angry? Because I am black I am supposed to be able to speak for every black poster in this thread, even if we don't share the same view?

Also, your tangent about white teachers isn't something I'm going to address because unless I missed it, you're the only one talking about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I'm not the pp, but I must ask you a question. Why is it the responsible of a black person to address the misbehaving of a child that does not belong to us, just because they are black? Are you actually advocating going up to children/teens and correcting their inappropriate language? I would never do that.

It is obvious that you are white, because you seem to be of the often -seen group of people who think that black people should be held accountable for the actions of others within their race.

There is a difference between nigger and nigga. There is a difference in context in the way blacks use the word and the way that (some) whites do.

BTW, re: the telling of our history, what do you mean by black kids only learning "angry words spouted by their angry parents"? Are you suggesting that black adults are pissed about past injustices and are teaching their children to be angry?

I truly hope you aren't a teacher. If you are, I now see why DCPS are so effed up.

I am the PP being interrogated by the teacher and I think I'll just step away from this thread now. It has gotten very bizarre with people demanding that I detail how I deal with strangers who I hear say offensive things on the street in passing. It seems people aren't even reading posts and instead are creating whatever narrative they want.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This comment is unrelated to this particular story and more of a general comment- you should consider that perhaps when (some) white people find certain jokes about black people/experiences funny and (some) black people don't, there's a reason for that. Maybe when you're the group a joke targets, you don't find it as amusing as people who do not and will never have no connection to it.

I'm not going to call Jewish people humorless if they don't find a story about kids having to play concentration camp funny. Maybe I would find the hypothetical story humorous, but I would understand that as a non-Jew that just don't have the same perspective about it.

Then again, perhaps I should not have bothered to respond to your post since you seem a bit troll-like. And if not troll-like, a bit ignorant.

While I don't think it's appropriate for anyone to make light of the horrors of slavery or the genocide, that's not what this guy is doing. This is an instance where a black guy is relating a story about an inappropriate event he experienced, he is deliberately using humor that a broad audience finds funny, not just just white people. If humor were not his objective, he would have been angry and offended by the reaction he was getting from his audience - which doesn't find his story funny because they're white, they find it funny because they're human and aware. Did you ever see Life is Beautiful? How about the Producers? There's nothing funny about the Holocaust but there is humor in situations, particularly ridiculous situations like the cotton picking field trip. You don't have to be black to have a 'connection' with slavery. We all belong to mankind and what hurts one hurts us all. And, if that's not good enough for you, there are enough mixed race people that it's going to be hard for you to determine who is entitled to a 'connection' and who isn't.

Did you mean to quote my comment? Because in the very first line (you didn't include that line when you quoted me) I said the story was amusing. In the second paragraph, I mentioned that the comments I was going to make were completely unrelated to the story in the OP.

Your comment is out of place in relation to what I said. Additionally, I am mixed race, so you don't have to inform me of how mixed people will change things.

Why are so many people having reading comprehension issues in this thread? Do they just want to rant without regard to who/what they're responding to?

Even though you said your comment was 'unrelated' to this particular story, it seemed like that's exactly what you were talking about. What idiot doesn't know that "Maybe when you're the group a joke targets, you don't find it as amusing as people who do not and will never have no connection to it." It seems pendantic to suggest that we don't already know that. You can find things not funny without thinking them offensive or inappropriate - which is what PPs have suggested.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:05:47- I think you have misunderstood several posts and gone on a rant because of that. My "disgusting and offensive" post was about the use of the word niglet. I find it a nasty word. Reread the first quoted post in your 05:47 post, then read the post in response to it. I was not speaking about the whole story- I spoke about the use of one word in the story. That is clear if you actually read it.

There is more than one black person in this thread. Some find the story funny. Some don't. I actually posted earlier that the story was amusing because of the idiocy of the teacher. So your rant is quite misguided and I can't/won't answer your numerous questions about blame and anger.

If you weren't angry, you would have responded to my questions, as they are indeed contextually appropriate.

Niglet, for example, is only one small part of a larger picture, correct? So if niglet makes you angry, how do you address that and other words that are offensive to some but apparently embraced by the younger generation? Do you stop kids in the street when you hear those word? If you're not part of the solution; you're part of the problem, right?

And then you, like others, found the story funny b/c of the idiocy of the teacher. As a white teacher, I agree. very idiotic! But had this young boy been angry in retelling the story, how would you have reacted? I can't imagine you'd find it humorous. Yet he had a way of poking fun at a sad situation in order to garner support from people he didn't even know!

Kids don't know their history, and what many do hear are angry words spouted out by angry parents. So while cuz is just fine, nigger is not. And and a white teacher, while I do my fair share of discussing why certain words are not appropriate, if I don't have rapport with students, who are majority minority (nice oxymoron), no amount of preaching will change them b/c all they see is a white face.

So what I am saying is that even though this video may have been posted as a form of "entertainment," it did indeed cause a reaction - bringing forth deep rooted resentment. Admit it. And hiring more white teachers will not create change. again - part of the problem if you're not part of the solution

I'm not the pp, but I must ask you a question. Why is it the responsible of a black person to address the misbehaving of a child that does not belong to us, just because they are black? Are you actually advocating going up to children/teens and correcting their inappropriate language? I would never do that.

It is obvious that you are white, because you seem to be of the often -seen group of people who think that black people should be held accountable for the actions of others within their race.

There is a difference between nigger and nigga. There is a difference in context in the way blacks use the word and the way that (some) whites do.

BTW, re: the telling of our history, what do you mean by black kids only learning "angry words spouted by their angry parents"? Are you suggesting that black adults are pissed about past injustices and are teaching their children to be angry?

I truly hope you aren't a teacher. If you are, I now see why DCPS are so effed up.

The systems are effed up b/c people don't take responsibility for each other. I cannot parent a black child, yet I do in so many ways b/c I see the saddest cases at my school. I listen. I teach. I base many lessons on what they've experienced in their lives b/c they can connect to literature that reflects who they are.

So yes, take responsibility for your own kids.

Two of my best friends are black females. I grew up with them. I can't tell you how often we'd be in the car, and my friends' mothers would stop to yell at another black kid who was just being an ass - or whose pants were too low - or who was sitting in the middle of the road, holding up traffic for the hell of it.

So take care of YOUR kids. Be role models. Enter the teaching profession. Volunteer! Become social workers. Until YOU step up, white people in service professions like teaching and social work won't change a damn thing b/c again - it's a white face they see.

And yes, if you had been in parent meetings with some parents I've met, you'd be surprised at the ignorance. Ignorance and anger go hand in hand. So what do you suggest we do? Instead of becoming angry at people who are trying to make some progress, take responsibility.

I'm done.

tired of the ignorance

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The black guy in this post is a token nigger. He should be ashamed for acting like the clown they expected him to be. I'm also not okay with him using the word "niglet" to his white audience. His tap dancing is not amusing.

It seems a black man is expected to either be a fool or an angry criminal.

In the follow up video he said he asked the poster to take the video down because he is concerned about his career. Maybe it is important to be an oreo as it is to be a banana in corporate America.

A banana?

[Anonymous]

17:00- glad you're done, but if you're tired of the ignorance, you probably shouldn't spend too much time alone.