Can we have a separate party for smart Republicans?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Taxation is the ultimate attack in liberty.

Yes, the Bill of Rights ranks way below money. Taxes are why we fought WWII.

So well put. And, like I said earlier, the concept of liberty has been reduced to a talking point for the right wing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Taxation is the ultimate attack in liberty.

Yeah. We don't need police, firemen, a military.......

[Anonymous]

Yes, they used call them Rockefeller Republicans.

[Anonymous]

Taxation is the ultimate attack in liberty.

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No. Taxation relates to property. There is a much more important measure of liberty, the liberty of your own person. Slavery would be the ultimate attack on liberty.

[Anonymous]

Followed by being forced by the government to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Taxation is the ultimate attack in liberty.

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No. Taxation relates to property. There is a much more important measure of liberty, the liberty of your own person. Slavery would be the ultimate attack on liberty.

Great point. Interestingly enough, Lincoln was Republican. A very Smart Republican, perhaps inspiration for that "separate party"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Taxation is the ultimate attack in liberty.

Yeah. We don't need police, firemen, a military.......

And, of course, we don't need public education!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Taxation is the ultimate attack in liberty.

Yes, the Bill of Rights ranks way below money. Taxes are why we fought WWII.

So well put. And, like I said earlier, the concept of liberty has been reduced to a talking point for the right wing.

If taxation is the ultimate attack on Liberty, the Founding Fathers, in their infinite wisdom, would have put it in the Bill of Rights. Instead, they enumerated it as a power in the First Article of the Constitution. ZOMG!??? How did that get in there???

Sorry, wingnut, you are on the wrong side of history.

[Anonymous]

I've thought for years that gerrymandering is a huge root of the DC problem--very few "back home" have to run to the middle to get here. There are some movements in certain states to correct the excesses such as we've seen in TX and right here in MD.

If we had a cast of characters in congress who learned to speak to both sides back home we might be further along to some reasonable compromises.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Republicans need to weed out the extreme elements of their party especially the bigots, racists, and anti-gay crowds.

As a black guy, I know that not every living breathing republican is racist or part of the above crowd. I do believe though that they cater to the fears and sentiments of that crowd and go way out of their way to "defend" them to a fault.

And yes there are crazies on the dem side. you dont need to remind me. Nevertheless, with polls showing the country as a whole leans middle right (not all out right), republicans have an opportunity which they dont take advantage of because they want their silly crowd to stay put. whats funny is that crowd isnt going to run to dems so whats the big deal if you lose their vote but gain that same percentage of the minority block?

and one only need to see/hear the birth certificate "joke" romney made today to highlight what i said the other day.

one can go back and forth with me equating the joke to obama poking fun at romney's dog or some other nonsense. the point though is that the "fringe" element who believe the birther nonsense is fired up and reasonable republicans have to go out there "defending" the joke with ad hominem line of arguments to keep them happy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Republicans need to weed out the extreme elements of their party especially the bigots, racists, and anti-gay crowds.

As a black guy, I know that not every living breathing republican is racist or part of the above crowd. I do believe though that they cater to the fears and sentiments of that crowd and go way out of their way to "defend" them to a fault.

And yes there are crazies on the dem side. you dont need to remind me. Nevertheless, with polls showing the country as a whole leans middle right (not all out right), republicans have an opportunity which they dont take advantage of because they want their silly crowd to stay put. whats funny is that crowd isnt going to run to dems so whats the big deal if you lose their vote but gain that same percentage of the minority block?

and one only need to see/hear the birth certificate "joke" romney made today to highlight what i said the other day.

one can go back and forth with me equating the joke to obama poking fun at romney's dog or some other nonsense. the point though is that the "fringe" element who believe the birther nonsense is fired up and reasonable republicans have to go out there "defending" the joke with ad hominem line of arguments to keep them happy.

I think you need to start a movement; the "reasonable republican" movement. Shed the extremeist contributions to ideology. Not like your gonna lose the redneck vote to Obummer.

[Anonymous]

i doubt any republican would follow me to the "reasonable republican" party considering that im a democrat

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OK, I know how you DCUMers will answer -- nobody would qualify for membership. But really, some of us who believe in more limited government and think the Democratic Party is (and the recent Republican administration was) not fiscally responsible are becoming increasingly embarrassed by the wahoos in the party. What to do?

You can use our home. The family room is big enough for a party of 10.

[Anonymous]

I was a Moderate Repiblican om another life and now am an Independent . Independents need to form their own platform , have a convention and become a third-party and nominate our own candidates for all elective offices. We could do no worse than the present two parties . Out og 300 million people , and we have Obamaand Romney to choose between the lessor of two evils.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a Dem and I have been arguing on this board for four straight years that the GOP needs to reinvent itself on a narrow platform of limited government. They can dump the social issues and stop pandering to the wingnuts. This would allow them to pick up a lot of people in the middle and even some on the left who are there only because they don't like the Republican attacks on liberty.

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