Standing your ground (chick fil a, etc) spin-off

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, i actually am a bit repulsed by chick fil a's stance and I won't be eating there anymore, but I don't make a big deal about it in public or even on here. I certainly wouldn't tell a friend not to eat there and I'm not above stealing a napkin from them if we're walking by in the mall. But support them by purchasing a product? No. That I will not do.

I also oppose Komen for what they did with planned parenthood and i no longer do the walk or raise any funds for them.

But it seems like people on teh chick fil a thread seem to think no one does these things - makes private consumer or charity choices based on a companies (owner's) beliefs, ethics or actions.

So my question is: do you, privately, make decisions on what to buy, eat, or where based on a companies' actions or statements?

Yes, because in the past few decades, as big business has taken over government, we no longer have any real voice there. Since we live in what amounts to a corporocracy, I vote with my money.

[Anonymous]

I have absolutely no problem with people have diverse political views (if you could only the see ultra-conservative posts from one of my FB friends next to one of the ultra-liberal posts from another friend, it is amusing and I support both of their rights to believe what they believe). I have no problem with a person using their personal money to support causes they believe in. However, once a person starts to use corporate profits to support causes that I don't believe in, then I believe I have a right to vote with my wallet. If the Cathy family had just used their personal money to support the anti-equality movement, then I wouldn't have had a problem. Once they started explicitly using corporate profits from the Chick-Fil-A corporation, then I stopped patronizing CFA. I don't need my money going to a business that actively lobbies against something I feel very strongly about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, i actually am a bit repulsed by chick fil a's stance and I won't be eating there anymore, but I don't make a big deal about it in public or even on here. I certainly wouldn't tell a friend not to eat there and I'm not above stealing a napkin from them if we're walking by in the mall. But support them by purchasing a product? No. That I will not do.

I also oppose Komen for what they did with planned parenthood and i no longer do the walk or raise any funds for them.

But it seems like people on teh chick fil a thread seem to think no one does these things - makes private consumer or charity choices based on a companies (owner's) beliefs, ethics or actions.

So my question is: do you, privately, make decisions on what to buy, eat, or where based on a companies' actions or statements?

I guess you don't realize that is nothing more than an attempt to rally the democratic base before the election. Unemployment is over 8 percent, gas is $3.50 a gallon, home values are at a ten year low, and the US is carrying a $14 trillion debit and is on the verge of financial collapse and you fools are worried about a fucking fast food restaurant. Simply amazing.

Civil liberties is absolutely at the top of my list when I vote. Abortion rights, followed closely by gay rights are my #1 voting issue. The dems could put SATAN up for President and I would still vote for him. Because I know what elected Republican officials will mean for my personal liberty. No one else should be telling people who to fuck, who not to fuck, and what to do with your uterus. Everytime I start to be tempted by the dark side (republicans) one of you opens your fat mouth and wants to wand people or some other absurd violation of liberty. The economy will struggle on under one idiot or another. I am not going to sell my bodily freedom to one party or another in the hopes that that party might magically fix the economy. I'd rather be poor and free than a rich slave.

You lost me with Satan and won me back hook, line, and sinker with "I'd rather be poor and free than a rich slave".

Well, since I don't actually beleive in Satan, you understand that I'm just engaging in hyperbole Obviously I wouldn't vote for Satan. (Although some like to think Obama IS Satan). My point is no matter how much people complain about Obama, even if it's justified, I CANNOT vote Republican because I am afraid of a government that wants to regulate my uterus. And when they mess around with gay issues it makes me extremely angry. If the Republicans could just get out of sexual politics altogether I would be open to considering them. Mitt actually has a fairly liberal record, for example (for a Republican). But my biggest fear is another Scalia on the court. Can't have another Republican President if I am worried about my civil liberties.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, i actually am a bit repulsed by chick fil a's stance and I won't be eating there anymore, but I don't make a big deal about it in public or even on here. I certainly wouldn't tell a friend not to eat there and I'm not above stealing a napkin from them if we're walking by in the mall. But support them by purchasing a product? No. That I will not do.

I also oppose Komen for what they did with planned parenthood and i no longer do the walk or raise any funds for them.

But it seems like people on teh chick fil a thread seem to think no one does these things - makes private consumer or charity choices based on a companies (owner's) beliefs, ethics or actions.

So my question is: do you, privately, make decisions on what to buy, eat, or where based on a companies' actions or statements?

Yes, because in the past few decades, as big business has taken over government, we no longer have any real voice there. Since we live in what amounts to a corporocracy, I vote with my money.

I don't have a problem with "corporations". I love many of the benefits our consumer products bring us all. I do have a problem with corporations buying our democracy.

[Anonymous]

This controversy caused the VP of PR to die:

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-chick-fil-a-20120728,0,765557.story

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This controversy caused the VP of PR to die:

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-chick-fil-a-20120728,0,765557.story

You are one sick asshole.

[Anonymous]

I will still eat there and bring my kids to play there.

It's one man's opinion on it.


What about all the workers that work there, that might be out of work because of this "boycott"...do you fault them for working there? If you have a friend that works there, will you defriend that friend because of it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I will still eat there and bring my kids to play there.

It's one man's opinion on it.


What about all the workers that work there, that might be out of work because of this "boycott"...do you fault them for working there? If you have a friend that works there, will you defriend that friend because of it?

Honestly, I do fault them. It's their choice to work for a company that actively opposes gay rights. And if my friend worked there, I'd have to factor that into what I know about my friend -- that my friend has no problem working for a company that spends its money advancing bigoted causes. Whether or not I'd "defriend" that friend would depend on the rest of our relationship.

[Anonymous]

I believe in gay marriage. Why not?
I also know (and have known for some time) that CF is a deeply Christian organization and I respect that. But just because they have a different political belief than me doesn't mean I'm going to protest or boycott them. I have way too many things in my life that I have to worry about. Getting all upset because an organization has a different point of view than me is not one of them.

[Anonymous]

I am amazed that, in the past several years, "gay rights" has become The Most Important voting factor for a small majority of people, and that the media coverage of such has given it the appearance of having such importance.

Economy? Unemployment? Border control?
No. None of these is as important as GAY RIGHTS, damn it!
What a laughing stock and how pathetic. Nothing is more important than alternative lifestyles who preen and dramatize themselves into importance in the lives of Americans who have so much more to worry about.

[Anonymous]

Do you all shop at Whole Foods?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am amazed that, in the past several years, "gay rights" has become The Most Important voting factor for a small majority of people, and that the media coverage of such has given it the appearance of having such importance.

Economy? Unemployment? Border control?
No. None of these is as important as GAY RIGHTS, damn it!
What a laughing stock and how pathetic. Nothing is more important than alternative lifestyles who preen and dramatize themselves into importance in the lives of Americans who have so much more to worry about.

It's not reallly gay rights to me. It's human rights. I don't think the govt should be using a religious justification to interfere in our personal lives. Very dangerous, slippery slope. To me it is part of freedom of religion - which was important enough to the founding fathers that as you recall, it was mentioned in the FIRST amendment.

[Anonymous]

I don't care what business owners believe in their personal private life. The problem is once they go public with their bigotry as if that is an acceptable public stance. Once they make their personal belief public, and defend it, they have brought their personal bigotry in the public, consumer, arena, and then I have to make a choice between patronizing a business whose owners believe differently than me, or patronizing a business who publicly discriminates and gives money to discriminate against others.

No thanks, CFA. Your food is not that good and your bigotry is sickening. I'm sure you won't miss me.

I find it fascinating how CFA went into overdrive, faking social media identities and such to do damage control. Even they realize that Cathy went over the line from personal to professional and that their business will suffer because of it. If they didn't care, why all that damage control?

[Anonymous]

I would not go out of my way to boycott them. But then again if I am looking to stop for fast food I will go to another fast food place if there is one nearby. It's not like they have the only chicken sandwich in town. There is likely another place just a block away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This controversy caused the VP of PR to die:

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-chick-fil-a-20120728,0,765557.story

You are one sick asshole.

Um? Fucking excuse me? Who the fuck do you fucking think you are, you fucker?

He had a heart attack. Probably caused by the stress of the controversy.

Fuck off.