Let me hear from you repubs. What are your reasons for voting for McSame..

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:..., I am not voting for McCain, but I respect much of what he has done in the Senate. I respect that he has, at times, made hard choices and cast principled votes. And I respect his military service. Never having served in the military, I am grateful to those who do. I don't think that alone qualifies anyone for elective office, but I truly appreciate it. In McCain's case, it's a compelling part of his personal story....

Thanks, 17:41. I'm glad to see someone who doesn't have to shred a candidate just because you prefer his opponent. I'm disappointed, though, that McCain now seems to feel he has to shred Obama. At least Obama is more subtle in his response, so far.
Anonymous
I am voting for McCain mostly because the thought of having Obama as president would be awful. I am hoping that he keeps his word and extends the Bush tax cuts. Our family has worked hard to create wealth and we are not psyched about it being hijacked during our prime earning years. I don't have too much sympathy for people who are struggling since both hubby and I came from working class families and are not whiners--somehow we both managed to put ourselves through school and make choices that allowed us to do well financially. Even during my years where I was single and building my business I never thought that stealing from people who made more than me was the way I could get ahead. I didn't care if it took two jobs (and it did sometimes) but I knew with enough focus, I would get there and I did. It's too bad that this country is starting a war on prosperity. I am probably more of a libertarian since I tend to stay away from social issues that aren't my buisness i.e. if gay marriage was legalized tomorrow, I would have no problem (heck most I know have benefitted from the bush tax cuts), I don't feel like moralizing about a right to choose, I don't want the government getting involved in educating my kids on sex--for me, having a gun is my right, the overriding issue is to leave me alone and allow me to fail or succeed on my own merit. I am sure this will get all the liberals all fired up but unlike them, I am not asking anyone for anything. There are just too many people who can success but somehow thing the only way to get there is through the government.
Anonymous
PP, I'm a liberal and you don't get me fired up at all. In fact, I would expect you to get more grief from sensible, thoughtful Republicans (and I believe there are plenty). If I were one of them, I would be embarrassed and defensive that you are propagating a stereotype of the greedy, selfish, unrealistic conservative who cares only for his/her personal bottom line.
Anonymous
I am voting for McCain mostly because the thought of having Obama as president would be awful. I am hoping that he keeps his word and extends the Bush tax cuts. Our family has worked hard to create wealth and we are not psyched about it being hijacked during our prime earning years. I don't have too much sympathy for people who are struggling since both hubby and I came from working class families and are not whiners--somehow we both managed to put ourselves through school and make choices that allowed us to do well financially. Even during my years where I was single and building my business I never thought that stealing from people who made more than me was the way I could get ahead. I didn't care if it took two jobs (and it did sometimes) but I knew with enough focus, I would get there and I did. It's too bad that this country is starting a war on prosperity. I am probably more of a libertarian since I tend to stay away from social issues that aren't my buisness i.e. if gay marriage was legalized tomorrow, I would have no problem (heck most I know have benefitted from the bush tax cuts), I don't feel like moralizing about a right to choose, I don't want the government getting involved in educating my kids on sex--for me, having a gun is my right, the overriding issue is to leave me alone and allow me to fail or succeed on my own merit. I am sure this will get all the liberals all fired up but unlike them, I am not asking anyone for anything. There are just too many people who can success but somehow thing the only way to get there is through the government.


You are extraordinarily out of touch with the real world.


Anonymous
It's interesting that I am selfish when I am only asking people do not rely on the government to solve their problems whereas a great majority of the liberals will be on the receiving end of my hard earned work and that isn't selfish??? Interesting.. My opinion didn't just happen when I got to a higher level in my career--I felt this way right at the begginning and again was not born rich. The difference is that I was never mad or jealous of rich folk, I just studied how to find a way to make money in a field that I liked so that I could take care of my family and not be a burden on society--nothing wrong with having to work to get up the food chain and putting impediments so that every time you create more wealth, more of it is taken from you just goes against capitalism. I think what is obnoxious is blaming the government for your lack of opportunity instead of making changes so that you can take care of yourself.
Anonymous
The difference is that I was never mad or jealous of rich folk, I just studied how to find a way to make money in a field that I liked so that I could take care of my family and not be a burden on society--nothing wrong with having to work to get up the food chain and putting impediments so that every time you create more wealth, more of it is taken from you just goes against capitalism.


Come again?
Anonymous
It's interesting that I am selfish when I am only asking people do not rely on the government to solve their problems whereas a great majority of the liberals will be on the receiving end of my hard earned work and that isn't selfish??? Interesting.. My opinion didn't just happen when I got to a higher level in my career--I felt this way right at the begginning and again was not born rich. The difference is that I was never mad or jealous of rich folk, I just studied how to find a way to make money in a field that I liked so that I could take care of my family and not be a burden on society--nothing wrong with having to work to get up the food chain and putting impediments so that every time you create more wealth, more of it is taken from you just goes against capitalism. I think what is obnoxious is blaming the government for your lack of opportunity instead of making changes so that you can take care of yourself.


I am the 15:57 poster and I will just say again that I think you are really out of touch with reality, on many levels.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It's interesting that I am selfish when I am only asking people do not rely on the government to solve their problems whereas a great majority of the liberals will be on the receiving end of my hard earned work and that isn't selfish??? Interesting.. My opinion didn't just happen when I got to a higher level in my career--I felt this way right at the begginning and again was not born rich. The difference is that I was never mad or jealous of rich folk, I just studied how to find a way to make money in a field that I liked so that I could take care of my family and not be a burden on society--nothing wrong with having to work to get up the food chain and putting impediments so that every time you create more wealth, more of it is taken from you just goes against capitalism. I think what is obnoxious is blaming the government for your lack of opportunity instead of making changes so that you can take care of yourself.


I give up. I honestly haven't a clue as to what you are talking about. I'm thinking maybe you don't know what the term "liberal" means. Or "capitalism." Or "sanity..."

Anonymous
What's really laughable is that the new McCain commercial is blaming Obama for the high gas prices. Helloooo ... the idiocy is 2 fold. The average American will believe this to be true, just like they still believe Obama is Muslim. They blame Obama because he opposes drilling and stopping America's addition on foreign oil. Drilling, if there's any amount of oil to be drilled in the first place, is a temporary solution. How about stopping America's addiction to oil altogether and adopt alternative sources of energy?
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Does McCain pass the Commander in Chief Test?



Anonymous
Oh god look more into it. Drilling is just one aspect--and we should drill everywhere we can. It's also looking into other areas of exploration and ramping up our nuclear capabilities, wind, coal etc. What we can't do is not drill. Look at T. Boone Pickens plan--it makes sense.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It's interesting that I am selfish when I am only asking people do not rely on the government to solve their problems whereas a great majority of the liberals will be on the receiving end of my hard earned work and that isn't selfish??? Interesting.. My opinion didn't just happen when I got to a higher level in my career--I felt this way right at the begginning and again was not born rich. The difference is that I was never mad or jealous of rich folk, I just studied how to find a way to make money in a field that I liked so that I could take care of my family and not be a burden on society--nothing wrong with having to work to get up the food chain and putting impediments so that every time you create more wealth, more of it is taken from you just goes against capitalism. I think what is obnoxious is blaming the government for your lack of opportunity instead of making changes so that you can take care of yourself.


So you must be building your own roads to drive on and you must use your own private airport when you fly. I really admire how you can be so independent of government subsidy.
Anonymous
Please..conservatives have no problem paying taxes for things like infrastructure as well as protecting the country. We just don't believe that there should be excessive taxes and Obamas plan is excessive and it really calls for people who are already shouldering the nation to pay even more. The dumb thing is that this will hurt everyone because people who own a lot of smaller companies who also happen to be high earners will downsize more and pay less, smaller venders will be hurt and wealthy people will take greater steps to protect their income so it doesn't work--everytime it's tried, it doesn't work. Even Bill Clinton was forced to make a tax cut but Congress in 94. It goes back to a philosopy of freedom..freedom to be successful or not successful--your choice. I do believe if every able bodied person worked to the best of their ability, they would be fine and the only people who would get aid would be those who absolutely needed it. Sorry saw too many people growing up who milked the system.
Anonymous
Please..conservatives have no problem paying taxes for things like infrastructure as well as protecting the country.


You do realize that paying for the war in Iraq is where most of your "stolen" tax dollars are going?
jsteele
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Anonymous wrote:Please..conservatives have no problem paying taxes for things like infrastructure as well as protecting the country. We just don't believe that there should be excessive taxes and Obamas plan is excessive and it really calls for people who are already shouldering the nation to pay even more. The dumb thing is that this will hurt everyone because people who own a lot of smaller companies who also happen to be high earners will downsize more and pay less, smaller venders will be hurt and wealthy people will take greater steps to protect their income so it doesn't work--everytime it's tried, it doesn't work. Even Bill Clinton was forced to make a tax cut but Congress in 94. It goes back to a philosopy of freedom..freedom to be successful or not successful--your choice. I do believe if every able bodied person worked to the best of their ability, they would be fine and the only people who would get aid would be those who absolutely needed it. Sorry saw too many people growing up who milked the system.


According to Factcheck.org, "the overwhelming majority of those small-business owners would see no increase, because they earn too little to be affected." They specifically pan claims by McCain regarding Obama's plan as "preposterously inflated".

Obama's plan would return the top two federal income-tax rates to what they were before Bush lowered them. In addition, Obama would adjust the income-tax brackets to ensure that no married couple making under $250,000 or single filer making under $200,000 would pay the top rates. Factcheck.org says "we judge that the actual number of small-business employers who would face higher tax rates under Obama is probably far below 663,608". The organization also points out that many small business owners will actually benefit from Obama's "Making Work Pay" tax credit.

McCain and other Republicans have made claim after claim about Obama's tax plan. Labeling Democrats as "Tax and Spend" politicians is one of the oldest arrows in the Republican quiver. But, independent analysis after independent analysis have shown the McCain claims to be bunk. Obama's plan will heavily favor the middle class -- exactly that group that includes so many of the small business people with whom you seem to be so concerned.

As for McCain's plan, as the title of this thread suggests, its more of the McSame. Tax cuts for the rich that will further increase the gulf between rich and poor in this country.


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