Holiday closings at daycare - opinions?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:18:28 poster i know what manners are however i save them for those who have respect for me and the person I am IRL.

Must be a short list.

Tah-tah.

Far from it

Hee hee. You are so full of yourself, it's almost entertaining, but mostly nauseating.

[jsteele]

Children, children. Please try to get along. Remember, if you can't say something nice, then don't say anything at all.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:Children, children. Please try to get along. Remember, if you can't say something nice, then don't say anything at all.

Thanks, Thumper. You are correct.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our daycare closes for all Federal holidays, as well as some religious holidays that we don't observe. We don't get any Federal holidays off of work, so this tends to be a big pain for us. Nevertheless, my question is that despite the numerous daycare holiday closings, we still have to pay the regularly weekly rate. The daycare is closed for a week and a half over the Christmas holiday, and we are still being charged. This is a LOT of money, plus a big pain because again, we don't have off this whole time. Does your daycare charge you for these vacation days? Thanks for your input! We are new to daycare so don't know how things usually work.

really you don't get any federal holidays off?? No july 4th? Christmas? where do you work? I work for a private company and don't get federal holidays like Veterans day off but I get all the mayor ones and some floating. My daycare gives us a full list ahead of time so we know what days they are closed.

when we were at a home daycare she took every federal holiday and a week of paid vacation a year. For her vacation we found out 2 months in advance and always planed our own vaction for the same week. Did it sort of suck to pay for daycare for a week when we weren't using it? sure a little, but I also saw it as me being an employer and her as my employee. My employer pays me for vacations, sick days, federal holidays and days when there is no work for me. So I think it is only fair to extend those benefits to my "employee." I would also rather my daycare take a week of paid vacation then no time off at all. Everyone needs a break and people who care for children all day long are no exception.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our daycare closes for all Federal holidays, as well as some religious holidays that we don't observe. We don't get any Federal holidays off of work, so this tends to be a big pain for us. Nevertheless, my question is that despite the numerous daycare holiday closings, we still have to pay the regularly weekly rate. The daycare is closed for a week and a half over the Christmas holiday, and we are still being charged. This is a LOT of money, plus a big pain because again, we don't have off this whole time. Does your daycare charge you for these vacation days? Thanks for your input! We are new to daycare so don't know how things usually work.

really you don't get any federal holidays off?? No july 4th? Christmas? where do you work? I work for a private company and don't get federal holidays like Veterans day off but I get all the mayor ones and some floating. My daycare gives us a full list ahead of time so we know what days they are closed.

when we were at a home daycare she took every federal holiday and a week of paid vacation a year. For her vacation we found out 2 months in advance and always planed our own vaction for the same week. Did it sort of suck to pay for daycare for a week when we weren't using it? sure a little, but I also saw it as me being an employer and her as my employee. My employer pays me for vacations, sick days, federal holidays and days when there is no work for me. So I think it is only fair to extend those benefits to my "employee." I would also rather my daycare take a week of paid vacation then no time off at all. Everyone needs a break and people who care for children all day long are no exception.

You are truly a diamond in the rough to recognize the needs of your provider when you were using in-home. Not enough people out there realize that. it is all about what am I going to do now that X has closed for vacation, sick day, etc etc. my contract states parents need to make sure they have back up for those just in case times that I need to close due to emergency, sickness or when I am closed for vacation

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our daycare closes for all Federal holidays, as well as some religious holidays that we don't observe. We don't get any Federal holidays off of work, so this tends to be a big pain for us. Nevertheless, my question is that despite the numerous daycare holiday closings, we still have to pay the regularly weekly rate. The daycare is closed for a week and a half over the Christmas holiday, and we are still being charged. This is a LOT of money, plus a big pain because again, we don't have off this whole time. Does your daycare charge you for these vacation days? Thanks for your input! We are new to daycare so don't know how things usually work.

really you don't get any federal holidays off?? No july 4th? Christmas? where do you work? I work for a private company and don't get federal holidays like Veterans day off but I get all the mayor ones and some floating. My daycare gives us a full list ahead of time so we know what days they are closed.

when we were at a home daycare she took every federal holiday and a week of paid vacation a year. For her vacation we found out 2 months in advance and always planed our own vaction for the same week. Did it sort of suck to pay for daycare for a week when we weren't using it? sure a little, but I also saw it as me being an employer and her as my employee. My employer pays me for vacations, sick days, federal holidays and days when there is no work for me. So I think it is only fair to extend those benefits to my "employee." I would also rather my daycare take a week of paid vacation then no time off at all. Everyone needs a break and people who care for children all day long are no exception.

You are truly a diamond in the rough to recognize the needs of your provider when you were using in-home. Not enough people out there realize that. it is all about what am I going to do now that X has closed for vacation, sick day, etc etc. my contract states parents need to make sure they have back up for those just in case times that I need to close due to emergency, sickness or when I am closed for vacation

I don't think this parent is unusual (no offense meant to the PP); I think the parents who complain about paying for the daycare vacation days are the exception. If you choose home daycare, you know you have to be prepared, because there is no automatic backup as there is at a center. And everyone else gets vacation, so if an in-home provider takes reasonable amounts of vacation, in keeping with the same amount of personal days and holidays that most people get in their jobs, I don't see how this could be an issue.

I think where the problem may lie for some parents is that they think in terms of hourly pay vs salaried pay. When you are paid hourly, you only get paid for the hours you work. However, I think most daycare providers like to think of themselves as salaried, in which case you get a set amount and you work at least some minimal amt of hours, but usually more, until you get the job done, and you have paid holidays and personal days.

[Anonymous]

to 10:43, unfortunately more people are complaining than are praising their in home daycare provider. I get tired of seeing the criticism of in home providers who are just trying to make an honest living and being able to stay home with their kids. Thats all.

As far as the holidays and vacation time. Is it fair to ask a provider who has many years invested ni daycare to only take the same amount of weeks off as the parents? That is why they have backup, for a reason. When people work in jobs outside the house, those who just begin a job may only have a week vacation but those who have years invested in their jobs have 3-4. I dont think it is fair to ask the provider to take the same as the parent.


And actually, until we get the job done? so if a parent is expecting 10 hours of care and comes in at 10, we are supposed to go beyond our normal hours into family time to watch the child until the job is done? i dont think so. that is a ridiculous statement

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:to 10:43, unfortunately more people are complaining than are praising their in home daycare provider. I get tired of seeing the criticism of in home providers who are just trying to make an honest living and being able to stay home with their kids. Thats all.

As far as the holidays and vacation time. Is it fair to ask a provider who has many years invested ni daycare to only take the same amount of weeks off as the parents? That is why they have backup, for a reason. When people work in jobs outside the house, those who just begin a job may only have a week vacation but those who have years invested in their jobs have 3-4. I dont think it is fair to ask the provider to take the same as the parent.


And actually, until we get the job done? so if a parent is expecting 10 hours of care and comes in at 10, we are supposed to go beyond our normal hours into family time to watch the child until the job is done? i dont think so. that is a ridiculous statement

Dude, chill out. You are completely reading all kinds of shit into my post that I did not intend. I was speaking in support of the providers. I said they should get the same amt of leave as most people get; where do you see anything about the same amt as the parents? You are so defensive, you aren't reading straight. And...I was talking about salaried jobs in general, not specifically about home daycare providers. Most people working for a salary work long hours because it's not about punching the clock, it's about finishing your assigned tasks on time. That may take more than 40 hours a week. In daycare, there are set hours a provider is available and that's pretty obvious.

I will tell you that I would not use a provider who wanted 3-4 weeks of vacation. I can't pay them plus pay for 4 weeks of alternate care. Thus, I choose to use a center so I know I have coverage. I sure don't get 3-4 weeks off.

[Anonymous]

I am a provider, and I take 4 weeks off. 2 are around the holidays (spring break and christmas week). These are told at the time of the interview. I take 2 weeks off during the summer months (parents are told at LEAST 6 weeks in advance, if not longer). I charge for ONE of the 4 weeks. The rest are unpaid, so the parents are not double paying anything. It is clearly stated in my contract. Now, on the other hand, I take very few if any sick or personal days, and I will remain open on holidays like veterans day and columbus day because I have clients who dont always get those days off. I do not charge extra either just because it is a holiday.

[Anonymous]

i work to ass of and they pay me 10 for/h . i am apast time working mom . if i am not work they not pay me . but i am not understand why day care they have to chage when they have day off . this is not fair for me . and i am poor people . but this is real world . and bad dream . so what i have to do . just deal with .

[Anonymous]

suck life in this world . and me again . last 2 week ago my son his sick and we cannot send him go to day care all 3 day and then we don't know we have to pay or not . but she send me bill we have to pay her all 3day so what we have to do if he sick or acident and broken his arm or leg and then we let him stay at home all hold month but we have to keep pay money . this is Amarica

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:suck life in this world . and me again . last 2 week ago my son his sick and we cannot send him go to day care all 3 day and then we don't know we have to pay or not . but she send me bill we have to pay her all 3day so what we have to do if he sick or acident and broken his arm or leg and then we let him stay at home all hold month but we have to keep pay money . this is Amarica

You pay to hold his space in daycare. Would you rather be ready to take him back to daycare only to find that in his abscence the daycare provider has filled his space? I am speaking for in home, which has limited # of spaces. I depend on this as my INCOME, the same way parents depend on their income to pay bills and put food on the table for their family. If I am losing money and can not afford to, then yes, I would have to give an ultimatum. I do mine on a case by case situation. I have charged only half amount for summer if the parent says they want to come back, but if a parent tells me we will just take our chances, not pay and see what happens, such as the case that happened years ago in my daycare, I warned them that I may not have their space available in the fall. They took their chances, I got calls for care and filled the spot. It is NOT about being mean and vindictive, it is about keeping food on my table for my family. unfortunately it is a dog eat dog world out there right now and everyone is doing everything they possibly can to look out for themselves - parents and providers alike.

[Anonymous]

Mine is only closed federal holidays, so only closed the Monday after Christmas and Monday after New Years. A week and a half does seem a lot to me

[Anonymous]

What school is open every working day? The staff would go crazy! Consider the time off a recharge for the caregivers that deal with multiple rugrats for 8-10 hours a day. It translates into better care for your kid. If you don't like it, go to a voucher program where the government conditions voucher payments on staying open almost always.

[Anonymous]

Many I wish there was a place to leave my kids 24/7....
There is that home place... Naaaaah!