Wilson for HS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Keep making excuses for these people. They have had billions of dollars thrown their way, affirmative action, shit most firms were tripping over themselves to prove how diverse they were and how quickly they could higher AAs, DC spends more per pupil than any other jurisdiction, etc etc. At some point in life YOU are responsible for your actions, not something that happened hundreds of years ago, not some mysterious "Man", just you.

If you are willing to lift your white hooded robe for one moment I would like to tell you something. Diverstity was not put in place for AA people. Many women, Hispanic, gay, among other people have benefited from Afirmitave Action. Yes you are correct, DC does spend more money per pupil to educate the children in DC not just the AA children and really if you would like to see where the majority of the per pupil spending is going you can look west of the park and see it is being put to good use! Yes, historically AA people are at a disadvantage and continue to be as a whole and you are right people need to take personal responsibilty for their actions but I would say the same goes for the majority of welfare recipients in this country, (who by the way are white) These people like to sit on thier butts and collect money while the rest of country works to support them. Every one has an excuse for thier situation if you are willing to listen to it. I think you are a disgusting racist asshole. I just really hope your kid does not attend school with my child and bring your Archie Bunker views to the classroom.

I'm not disagreeing with your post (or agreeing) but this part is wrong. List out of list has come out showing that schools west of the park receive much less money per pupil. When you factor in Title 1 etc. schools east of the park are getting quite a bundle more. Just speaking up for the facts.

[Anonymous]

As a parent of an AA high achieving boy, there's no way I would have considered sending him to Wilson, which is internally segregated and where the expectations are very low for boys of color. All these liberal upper NW people who laud the supposed "diversity" of Wilson, will only allow just so much "exposure" for their kids. Attending the same school as lower SES/minority kids? Sure. Sitting next to them in class or socializing with them outside of school? Not so much. This is why almost every upper-middle class black family that I know in DC (most of whom were in-bounds for Wilson, by the way), went elsewhere, especially those with boys.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Keep making excuses for these people. They have had billions of dollars thrown their way, affirmative action, shit most firms were tripping over themselves to prove how diverse they were and how quickly they could higher AAs, DC spends more per pupil than any other jurisdiction, etc etc. At some point in life YOU are responsible for your actions, not something that happened hundreds of years ago, not some mysterious "Man", just you.

If you are willing to lift your white hooded robe for one moment I would like to tell you something. Diverstity was not put in place for AA people. Many women, Hispanic, gay, among other people have benefited from Afirmitave Action. Yes you are correct, DC does spend more money per pupil to educate the children in DC not just the AA children and really if you would like to see where the majority of the per pupil spending is going you can look west of the park and see it is being put to good use! Yes, historically AA people are at a disadvantage and continue to be as a whole and you are right people need to take personal responsibilty for their actions but I would say the same goes for the majority of welfare recipients in this country, (who by the way are white) These people like to sit on thier butts and collect money while the rest of country works to support them. Every one has an excuse for thier situation if you are willing to listen to it. I think you are a disgusting racist asshole. I just really hope your kid does not attend school with my child and bring your Archie Bunker views to the classroom.

I'm not disagreeing with your post (or agreeing) but this part is wrong. List out of list has come out showing that schools west of the park receive much less money per pupil. When you factor in Title 1 etc. schools east of the park are getting quite a bundle more. Just speaking up for the facts.

Put to good use was a crucial part of PP's claim. You can run the numbers all sorts of different ways but the facts are that the average white kid in DCPS is going to a school with vastly superior facilities and much lower rates of teacher turnover than the average non-white kid in DCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a parent of an AA high achieving boy, there's no way I would have considered sending him to Wilson, which is internally segregated and where the expectations are very low for boys of color. All these liberal upper NW people who laud the supposed "diversity" of Wilson, will only allow just so much "exposure" for their kids. Attending the same school as lower SES/minority kids? Sure. Sitting next to them in class or socializing with them outside of school? Not so much. This is why almost every upper-middle class black family that I know in DC (most of whom were in-bounds for Wilson, by the way), went elsewhere, especially those with boys.

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^^^+1

[Anonymous]

Yes, but I don't think you can blame the liberal parents for how this segregation shakes out at Wilson--they don't have anything to do with it. It goes a lot deeper than that. And if your child were high achieving, I am sure he would be in classes with their kids, assuming they are high achieving too (and all of them are not).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a parent of an AA high achieving boy, there's no way I would have considered sending him to Wilson, which is internally segregated and where the expectations are very low for boys of color. All these liberal upper NW people who laud the supposed "diversity" of Wilson, will only allow just so much "exposure" for their kids. Attending the same school as lower SES/minority kids? Sure. Sitting next to them in class or socializing with them outside of school? Not so much. This is why almost every upper-middle class black family that I know in DC (most of whom were in-bounds for Wilson, by the way), went elsewhere, especially those with boys.

so the AA people are more classist, elitist ?

[Anonymous]

Not more classist or elitist just doing the same thing other families do when they move to MoCo or go private - doing what needs to be done to ensure kids get what they need.

[Anonymous]

PP I think what the poster means is that even though some AAs are in boundary for Wilson they opt not to attend because of the treatment of AA boys at Wilson. It does not matter what the SES all the school will see is a AA boy and they all get lumped together even high achieving AA boys. They are not being classist or elitist just avoiding the mistreatment for their children. I am sure you would do the same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP I think what the poster means is that even though some AAs are in boundary for Wilson they opt not to attend because of the treatment of AA boys at Wilson. It does not matter what the SES all the school will see is a AA boy and they all get lumped together even high achieving AA boys. They are not being classist or elitist just avoiding the mistreatment for their children. I am sure you would do the same.

well if that is fact then do something about it. Racism is something we are supposed to be able to fight.
My impression is that that is not actually the case. A high achieving, even moderately OK AA boy would be able to get a good education
Adults are just being elitist and classist to pander to their own prejudices

[Anonymous]

I'm 22:14. I don't see why my son has to be a pawn in some fight against low expectations and racism. Like a PP said, we did what any other parent, white or black, would do for their child. We went elsewhere. Now, granted we are fortunate to be able to go private, but that's besides the point, which is really that as much as white families love to talk about how great the educational opportunities are for their kids at Wilson, people need to realize that the Wilson experience isn't the same for all children. Plus, I suspect that a lot of parents pat themselves on the back for sending their kid to a "diverse" public school, when actually the school is quite segregated, academically, and socially.

[Anonymous]

...umm...the parents I know pat themselves on the back for sending kids to Wilson because it is FREE...diversity is a bonus

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm 22:14. I don't see why my son has to be a pawn in some fight against low expectations and racism. Like a PP said, we did what any other parent, white or black, would do for their child. We went elsewhere. Now, granted we are fortunate to be able to go private, but that's besides the point, which is really that as much as white families love to talk about how great the educational opportunities are for their kids at Wilson, people need to realize that the Wilson experience isn't the same for all children. Plus, I suspect that a lot of parents pat themselves on the back for sending their kid to a "diverse" public school, when actually the school is quite segregated, academically, and socially.

If your child maintains a B- average your child would not be 'segregated' (by academic achievement as far as I can tell at Wilson). Would you rather the school had low expectations for your child? That sounds more like racism to me. Lots of black kids go to Walls and don't mind that it is full of liberal parents with high expectations (no doubt including their own). Why is Wilson different?

[Anonymous]

Boy. There is some serious analysis on this topic! I am a black male graduate from Wilson (early 1990s). I had a great experience and went on to get two degrees from UVA. It is true that Wilson, even back then, was "two schools in one". But, there are many large public schools like that. Visit the school, do your research, and make a decision that is good for your family (i.e., keep it simple).

[Anonymous]

I previously taught at Wilson and, as a hilarious side note to all of this, a number of the "white" kids in the academies are actually performing at a very low level. They are extremely un/undermotivated (yes, I'm aware that undermotivated isn't a word). Because of their protected status, their parents would never let them be put in with the general population. The school tolerates their feigned idiocy and low classroom grades, many times revised upward/changed for GPA/college admissions purposes, simply because they help raise the reading/math scores on standardized tests.