HEALTH FOOD NAZIS IN OUR CHILDREN'S SCHOOLS

[Anonymous]

"Maybe you don't understand the structure of argument by rhetorical implication, but when you refer to "Nazis" you are ipso facto bringing us back to 1930s Germany, because there are no other "Nazis." "

Nursing Nazis?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Maybe you don't understand the structure of argument by rhetorical implication, but when you refer to "Nazis" you are ipso facto bringing us back to 1930s Germany, because there are no other "Nazis." "

Nursing Nazis?

Interesting that anyone who gives a damn about healthy choices, and who advocates for healthy choices, is called a Nazi.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"Maybe you don't understand the structure of argument by rhetorical implication, but when you refer to "Nazis" you are ipso facto bringing us back to 1930s Germany, because there are no other "Nazis." "

Nursing Nazis?

Interesting that anyone who gives a damn about healthy choices, and who advocates for healthy choices, is called a Nazi.

Threats & intimidation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:School lunches are sickening. I can't imagine what the kids who eat breakfast AND lunch at school must feel like. Yuck.

Sometimes just happy that they're getting food. You should see some of them on Monday mornings--it's pretty sad. No complaining, just silence as they wolf it down....

That is sad. I saw something on the news about a program that sends food home in their backpacks on Friday afternoons. I'd like to contribute if anyone knows about it.

The Capital Area Food Bank runs a Weekend Bag program and I know the need is large. They would gratefully accept your donation.

http://www.capitalareafoodbank.org/feeding-hope/#10

Perfect! Thank you. I called them today but they were off. I'll try again tomorrow.

Will you please post when you hear from them?

[Anonymous]

This is all typical Type-A controlling parent reactions. DS' school in Arlington doesn't ban anything but does do a lot of education around healthy eating. Our cabinets are filled with various types of junkfood but DS is not constantly eating it - banning it just makes it more appealing. The school does make provision for kids with allergies, who actually have the knowledge/advocacy skills even at a young age to know what they can/cannot eat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know people can go to the hospital for surgery and "catch" diabetes from the IV (yes, research police, a nurse told me that it is not uncommon for people to get diabetes from a hospital stay); maybe extra glucose in foods is doing a number on us all.

Wait...what? That makes no sense.

[Anonymous]

I agree with the OP -- kids aren't fat b/c of what they eat at school. They are getting fat b/c of what they eat at home and b/c of the over abundance of junk food available in the market place.

I don't know why they can't serve tater tots at school. Whatever happened to sloppy joes and "chicken with noodles" and gulosh (hamburger with macaroni)? We had chocolate milk only on special days (last day of school, day before Xmas break) and we had brownies every once in awhile. SOOOO good. I don't remember one child in my grade of 60 that was heavy/over weight.

My kids get dessert at home and they eat chicken nuggets, but they are not fat. My kids do not have regular access to McDonalds, only drink milk and water (no soda), and eat small snacks (not an entire bag of chips).

I'm glad people are concerned about the obesity problem in the country, but taking out our frustrations on the school lunch program is not the solution. Eating at home (not at restaurants -- sorry to those who run restaurants) and teaching kids limits on snacks/treats are the true answers to the problem. In the meantime... all of our kids get yucky lunches at school or we pack our own.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Maybe you don't understand the structure of argument by rhetorical implication, but when you refer to "Nazis" you are ipso facto bringing us back to 1930s Germany, because there are no other "Nazis." "

Nursing Nazis?

Yes, thank you, this is another perfect example of idiotic labeling and hyperbole that's common on this website. I reiterate that as soon as 12 million people are killed by breastfeeding advocates, I will gladly give credence to these posters' points. Until then, I will continue to discount everything said by anyone referring to someone as a "Nazi" unless that someone is a member of one of the many actual neo-Nazi white supremacist hate groups.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am much more concerned about junk being served in schools, OP, and about the lack of movement in school. Kids need a lot of active recess and PE, and they need healthy food.

And why this makes you a health food nazi is a mystery to me. I can't believe people are arguing against healthy food in school. It's no wonder we are the fattest country in the world. People love their McDs like a crackhead loves a crack pipe.

[Anonymous]

We're not asking for McD's to be served in school... just food that kids will eat and in moderate sized portions.

It's great that your kid likes tofu and cucumbers, but mine (and most) do not --- and we would like some regular kid-friendly food on the menu. By the way, my kids are NOT fat in the least! My 7 yr. old is at the 45th %-ile and my 5 yr. old is at the 10th %-ile. So, feeding them foods they will eat, including fruits and veggies (like apples, carrots, corn, etc.) as well as nuggets, tater tots, and pizza, does not make children fat.

The point I am making is that school lunches are not making kids fat.

It's what they eat outside of school that is making them fat. Companies have a profit motive to sell as much chips and soda and nasty frozen snack food as possible. We had school lunches 30 yrs. ago, but we didn't have the obesity b/c people weren't giving their kids access to the quantity of junk they have in homes today.

School lunches are a scapegoat in the obesity epidemic!

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Anonymous wrote:It's oppressive that we can't smoke in schools, too. I really resent that I can't light up when I go in for my parent-teacher conference. I'm sure teachers feel the same way. Back when i was a kid, you could smell the teacher's lounge all the way down the hall. Now -- nothing. It's crazy, I tell you. Just plain crazy.

I'm also upset about the lack of choice in recreational drugs. Crack and heroin were so common when I was a child. You could buy them on the front steps of the school. Now, with all these cops posted at every school, you have to walk down the block or around the corner. It's oppressive! I'm for freedom of choice!

So previous posters ragged on op for losing credibility by using the word "Nazi," and then you compare cupcakes to heroin? Maybe "Nazi" is not an appropriate label, but how about hysterical fear-monger who has no sense of proportion?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:12:33, those breakfast choices sound nourishing, not junky. What's wrong with that MoCo menu? I give my son french toast, eggs, pancakes, etc for breakfast pretty regularly.

I guess everyone is different. If I started three out of five days with something sweet like french toast, pancakes and cinnamon rolls, I wouldn't feel good. The other days are no better than McD's egg McMuffins. When we go on road trips we eat plenty of McDonald's food, including breakfast, and it doesn't take long for me to feel gross -- and to get used to it at the same time. I am always happy to get back to regular, more healthy food.

I'd be interested in finding out what you serve your kids for breakfast then. Other than the cinnamon roll (yes, bad), these all seem like pretty normal kid-friendly breakfast options, and not particularly unhealthy, especially the options that have eggs. For me, I try to load them at breakfast because I know they are hungry and will eat more than at lunch or dinner. I make my own egg sandwiches at home for them, and I think it's an excellent breakfast for kids -- good protein from the eggs and cheese, carbs in the English muffin, some fat in the bacon. My kids are not fat by any means, so they need the calories. A bowl of cereal or yogurt and fruit is just not going to cut it most days.

[Anonymous]

I'm a teacher. My concern with the quality of the school lunch food isn't so much with nutrition -- although yes the meals are very carb-loaded. My concern is the quality. The kids (esp. the free lunch kids) a captive audience. What are they going to do... complain that the food doesn't meet their standards? But yes, the food served is blecky many days. And gets thrown out. if a cihld is actually eating school lunch every day, that's a very hungry child.

I have no problem with Tater Tots but at least make sure that they are cooked correctyl and are appetizing, not served as a gloppy mess.

And NO ONE wants to eat canned green beans, warmed up. Seriously. Just throw those straight into the garbage can.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I agree with the OP -- kids aren't fat b/c of what they eat at school. They are getting fat b/c of what they eat at home and b/c of the over abundance of junk food available in the market place.

I don't know why they can't serve tater tots at school. Whatever happened to sloppy joes and "chicken with noodles" and gulosh (hamburger with macaroni)? We had chocolate milk only on special days (last day of school, day before Xmas break) and we had brownies every once in awhile. SOOOO good. I don't remember one child in my grade of 60 that was heavy/over weight.

My kids get dessert at home and they eat chicken nuggets, but they are not fat. My kids do not have regular access to McDonalds, only drink milk and water (no soda), and eat small snacks (not an entire bag of chips).

I'm glad people are concerned about the obesity problem in the country, but taking out our frustrations on the school lunch program is not the solution. Eating at home (not at restaurants -- sorry to those who run restaurants) and teaching kids limits on snacks/treats are the true answers to the problem. In the meantime... all of our kids get yucky lunches at school or we pack our own.

I agree that what kids eat at home contributes just as much, but you forget, that for MANY children the only food they eat is a school lunch (and breakfast/ aftercare snack). You have the choice to purchase school lunch or pack your own, but many kids do not have that luxury. Whatever your stance is on tax dollars subsidizing lunches for low income kids, as long as our tax dollars are being spent providing food to children, wouldn't you rather than money be spent on healthful food? Schools are a place of education so should they not also play a role in teaching kids how to eat? Saying its the parent's responsibility would ignore the reality that many parent's can't or won't and the rest of us are left to manage and pay for the resulting public health problem.

Also, I want the choice to be able to feed my kids sugar-laden food or not. When schools become one big junk fest (as my daughter's school is this year) this takes away my choice. If we are to default to one norm in school- healthy choices vs. the same crap food (what I would call "yucky") that always has been there, I cannot for the life of my understand people who would prefer the latter.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am much more concerned about junk being served in schools, OP, and about the lack of movement in school. Kids need a lot of active recess and PE, and they need healthy food.

And why this makes you a health food nazi is a mystery to me. I can't believe people are arguing against healthy food in school. It's no wonder we are the fattest country in the world. People love their McDs like a crackhead loves a crack pipe.

Except that we didn't used to be one of the fattest countries in the world. And school food has always been junk.

Listen carefully....If your child is fat, it is 100% your fault. You cannot blame the government, society, or the schools. Fat kid = bad parenting.