“End Tipping” Reddit

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there a bigger collection of broke whiners and social outcasts than Reddit? How does anyone waste time on that toxic site anymore.

Maybe it’s the subreddits I frequent but I find commenters to be considerably more reasonable and less hateful than on this site. I come here for the snark!

It's entirely this. Reddit is just a platform and if you just stick to all or popular, yes it's toxic like everywhere else on the Internet. Follow a good collection of well moderated or smaller subreddits and it's completely different.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I waited tables back in the 90s and 20% was considered the norm for good service, not 15%. I don’t mind tipping, I’ve also lived in places where tipping isn’t expected but I don’t mind the American system, having been a tipped employee myself.

And to the poster whose kids work in restaurants, are they supporting themselves or themselves and a family? If not, then they shouldn’t chime in on what people who need to pay actual bills should be tipped.

15% has always been the norm, 20% for exceptional service.

It's regional. 15% in the South (DMV), or even less, may be the norm but in the NE 20% has always been standard for my life and I am not...young.

I grew up in Maryland (born 1979) and 15% was standard anywhere, and we traveled across the country as a family. We were comfortably off. I do remember in the very late 1990s people started talking and grumbling about 20%. But it didn't become standard till probably around 2005.

Maybe it was different in Manhattan. I'm sure it's always different in NYC.

I don’t tip anything outside sit down service and hair cuts. Coffee shops, bakeries, takeaway, anything involving self service gets 0%.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:25% is insane, OP.

It's the new normal. 20% is the new 15%, so minimum, and 25% is the new 20%, so for good service

What does “great service” even mean? I order my meal and a drink and they bring it. Same with bill. I’m not sure how one does that in a superb manner beyond not taking ages.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there a bigger collection of broke whiners and social outcasts than Reddit? How does anyone waste time on that toxic site anymore.

“End Tipping” has plenty of gainfully employed cheapskates. They don’t tip because they’re broke, but because they are CHEAP! I get that tipping is out of control, but if you’re not tipping at a sit down restaurant in the U.S. you are a jerk. The exception here being restaurants that add a service fee.

Most meals are $20-40 or more. The owners can afford to pay minimum wage and are the cheapest.

If there is a service fee, I'm not tipping.

Otherwise its 15-20% depending on the service.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there a bigger collection of broke whiners and social outcasts than Reddit? How does anyone waste time on that toxic site anymore.

“End Tipping” has plenty of gainfully employed cheapskates. They don’t tip because they’re broke, but because they are CHEAP! I get that tipping is out of control, but if you’re not tipping at a sit down restaurant in the U.S. you are a jerk. The exception here being restaurants that add a service fee.

Most meals are $20-40 or more. The owners can afford to pay minimum wage and are the cheapest.

If there is a service fee, I'm not tipping.

Otherwise its 15-20% depending on the service.

It’s not always owners being cheap. This is the way things have worked in restaurants- at least in the U.S., for years.

I agree with your last two points.

If you eat at a sit down restaurant and there is no service charge and you don’t tip, you’re a jerk.

[Anonymous]

I have thought a few times this: If my career was a waitstaff, I would aspire to work at the most expensive restaurants, like steakhouses, etc.

Each table would average $200 and the tip is $40-50. Work 5 hours in the evening for $250, not bad at all. Is working at an expensive restaurant more work than working at Ihop? Nope.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have thought a few times this: If my career was a waitstaff, I would aspire to work at the most expensive restaurants, like steakhouses, etc.

Each table would average $200 and the tip is $40-50. Work 5 hours in the evening for $250, not bad at all. Is working at an expensive restaurant more work than working at Ihop? Nope.

Correction - assuming 3 tables at a time and 90 min per table - $500 for 5 hours of work, not bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:25% is insane, OP.

It's the new normal. 20% is the new 15%, so minimum, and 25% is the new 20%, so for good service

What does “great service” even mean? I order my meal and a drink and they bring it. Same with bill. I’m not sure how one does that in a superb manner beyond not taking ages.

I think it's obvious when it happens. There is a restaurant I've been going to near me for years which has superb service: waiters are attentive and on top of things. Water glass gets refilled at first sign of it getting low, but in a discreet manner. Everyone is pleasant and polite, but always professional and not over the top. I've notice they are really mindful of not interrupting the flow of conversation. They know the menu well, preempt questions and are clear. They are not snooty and just as nice to young people who don't order as much (my dcs who are older teens have gone alone). Most of all, every time we go the service is the same, consistently excellent no matter who the waiter is. That's rare I find.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have thought a few times this: If my career was a waitstaff, I would aspire to work at the most expensive restaurants, like steakhouses, etc.

Each table would average $200 and the tip is $40-50. Work 5 hours in the evening for $250, not bad at all. Is working at an expensive restaurant more work than working at Ihop? Nope.

This is why I tip higher at a restaurant like iHop. I tip decent at nice restaurants- usually 20%. If I’m ever a big tipper, it’s at a place like iHop. More likely a dinner, Cracker Barrel or Waffle House, since I’m actually not a big iHop fan, but still the same idea with tipping.

[Anonymous]

anything that relies on etique should be outlawed bake it into the price

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:25% is insane, OP.

It's the new normal. 20% is the new 15%, so minimum, and 25% is the new 20%, so for good service

What does “great service” even mean? I order my meal and a drink and they bring it. Same with bill. I’m not sure how one does that in a superb manner beyond not taking ages.

I think it's obvious when it happens. There is a restaurant I've been going to near me for years which has superb service: waiters are attentive and on top of things. Water glass gets refilled at first sign of it getting low, but in a discreet manner. Everyone is pleasant and polite, but always professional and not over the top. I've notice they are really mindful of not interrupting the flow of conversation. They know the menu well, preempt questions and are clear. They are not snooty and just as nice to young people who don't order as much (my dcs who are older teens have gone alone). Most of all, every time we go the service is the same, consistently excellent no matter who the waiter is. That's rare I find.

Yeah, this is almost no where now. Even nicer places. But in fairness, I don’t typically have any questions or need anything beyond what I ordered and the check. I just don’t see how this is considering great service. It’s extremely basic, bare minimum service

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I waited tables back in the 90s and 20% was considered the norm for good service, not 15%. I don’t mind tipping, I’ve also lived in places where tipping isn’t expected but I don’t mind the American system, having been a tipped employee myself.

And to the poster whose kids work in restaurants, are they supporting themselves or themselves and a family? If not, then they shouldn’t chime in on what people who need to pay actual bills should be tipped.

No... were you in NYC? Just no, 15% was the norm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I waited tables back in the 90s and 20% was considered the norm for good service, not 15%. I don’t mind tipping, I’ve also lived in places where tipping isn’t expected but I don’t mind the American system, having been a tipped employee myself.

And to the poster whose kids work in restaurants, are they supporting themselves or themselves and a family? If not, then they shouldn’t chime in on what people who need to pay actual bills should be tipped.

15% has always been the norm, 20% for exceptional service.

It's regional. 15% in the South (DMV), or even less, may be the norm but in the NE 20% has always been standard for my life and I am not...young.

I grew up in Maryland (born 1979) and 15% was standard anywhere, and we traveled across the country as a family. We were comfortably off. I do remember in the very late 1990s people started talking and grumbling about 20%. But it didn't become standard till probably around 2005.

Maybe it was different in Manhattan. I'm sure it's always different in NYC.

I don’t tip anything outside sit down service and hair cuts. Coffee shops, bakeries, takeaway, anything involving self service gets 0%.

If you were traveling (and frankly, unless you worked as a server), you don't know what the norm was. You just know what you left. I assert that when I waited tables in the 80s, 10% was the norm and then it crept up about each decade to 15% and then 20% and now people have started to pressure folks for 25% tips. It's a joke.