“End Tipping” Reddit

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem is transparency. You dont know what the worker is paid because every single place is different and restaurants bend the rules all the time. It would 100% be better for hourly wage for most food workers. Not all.
Some get higher than tipped wage and then still make tips.
Some get tipped wage but arent working a traditional position seen as requiring a tip (see Outback to-go counter position) and make less
Some get tipped wage but arent directly working with customers like barbacks, busboys, food runners, etc. Or they make higher than a tipped wage but not minimum wage. And then there is required tip out or pooled tips.

Its a joke and because of the lack of transparency it allows for manipulation and abuse.

Legally tips must go to the employees. Workers can and have sued operators for wage theft. If something is called anything other than a tip or gratuity, then all bets are off. I cross out some bs like "hospitality surcharge" and write "tip" instead

Yes, but theres no law that the person you tip gets all of it nor that they dont have to tip pool. Again, youre crossing it out doesnt mean it goes to them and you should ask the manager whether the surcharge goes to the restaurant or staff.

What is wrong is that people are tipping 10% across the board because of the lack of transparency and treating a to-go worker, a barista, the 5 Guys order taker, and a ACTUAL waitress with the same broad brush. They are all paid differently.

Either no tips/all minimum wage+ or all business need to display and identify their employees as hourly or tipped wage.

Ive worked in dive bars up to Foreman/Wolf (no longer referred to that but it was when I worked there)- its all handled differently. There are mandatory tip outs where they collect your money and give it to the support staff. There are "honor system" tip outs. There are some that split bar vs food for support and others you pay the whole tip out. So if you get a 200 bottle of wine some places require tip out to just the bartender (even if you are the one who gets it and opens it and polishes the wine glasses) and others require you to tip out all support staff on that 200, up to 8-10%. If you dont tip on that wine as part of your check then your server pays for you to order and drink it.

Again the issue is in the lack of regulation and transparency. As someone who has worked in and out of many types of service jobs, no tips is the way to go.

[Anonymous]

I waited tables back in the 90s and 20% was considered the norm for good service, not 15%. I don’t mind tipping, I’ve also lived in places where tipping isn’t expected but I don’t mind the American system, having been a tipped employee myself.

And to the poster whose kids work in restaurants, are they supporting themselves or themselves and a family? If not, then they shouldn’t chime in on what people who need to pay actual bills should be tipped.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I go to a no tip hair salon, and I love it. I’d rather pay more and not tip..

Literally the same thing.

Please share the name. I love this concept. When I was growing up, it used to be that the owner wasn't supposed to be tipped but others were. Now, everyone I know also tips the owner, so I do because i don't want them to think I'm cheap.

I also love the restaurants that are no tip, love that.

OHair in the Kentlands in Gaithersburg Md

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I go to a no tip hair salon, and I love it. I’d rather pay more and not tip..

Literally the same thing.

It’s not the same

[Anonymous]

I don’t mind tipping for service. It’s stupid that it’s now part of take out food.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I waited tables back in the 90s and 20% was considered the norm for good service, not 15%. I don’t mind tipping, I’ve also lived in places where tipping isn’t expected but I don’t mind the American system, having been a tipped employee myself.

And to the poster whose kids work in restaurants, are they supporting themselves or themselves and a family? If not, then they shouldn’t chime in on what people who need to pay actual bills should be tipped.

15% has always been the norm, 20% for exceptional service.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I waited tables back in the 90s and 20% was considered the norm for good service, not 15%. I don’t mind tipping, I’ve also lived in places where tipping isn’t expected but I don’t mind the American system, having been a tipped employee myself.

And to the poster whose kids work in restaurants, are they supporting themselves or themselves and a family? If not, then they shouldn’t chime in on what people who need to pay actual bills should be tipped.

In the 90s, 15% was standard and 18 to 20% was for exceptional service. Google it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:25% is insane, OP.

It's the tell in that post that it's a troll...

Totally. And then claiming that prices would go up. They ready are up but in a sneaky way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I waited tables back in the 90s and 20% was considered the norm for good service, not 15%. I don’t mind tipping, I’ve also lived in places where tipping isn’t expected but I don’t mind the American system, having been a tipped employee myself.

And to the poster whose kids work in restaurants, are they supporting themselves or themselves and a family? If not, then they shouldn’t chime in on what people who need to pay actual bills should be tipped.

15% has always been the norm, 20% for exceptional service.

It's regional. 15% in the South (DMV), or even less, may be the norm but in the NE 20% has always been standard for my life and I am not...young.

[Anonymous]

if 20% is expected to have restaurants cancel tipping and up the price 20%. It's a scam, they want to advertise cheap menus and prices by hiding the 20%. so just up and end tipping

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
For me it's not this, but more the whole expense of it (including the tips) for what has become, over and over, a disappointing experience.

Only suckers are using personal cards on dining out. You have to be a dunce to blow your post-tax wages on $40+ per plate Sysco slop. Restaurants are kept afloat by spendthrifts swiping company cards. These people don't quibble about a silly 15 or 25% tip because it ain't their money.

Corporate catering is the big unseen cash cow for restaurants. Anyone using wages to dine out regularly is an idiot.

[Anonymous]

Is there a bigger collection of broke whiners and social outcasts than Reddit? How does anyone waste time on that toxic site anymore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is there a bigger collection of broke whiners and social outcasts than Reddit? How does anyone waste time on that toxic site anymore.

Maybe it’s the subreddits I frequent but I find commenters to be considerably more reasonable and less hateful than on this site. I come here for the snark!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is there a bigger collection of broke whiners and social outcasts than Reddit? How does anyone waste time on that toxic site anymore.

How is checking out Reddit any different than hanging out here, on DCUM?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is there a bigger collection of broke whiners and social outcasts than Reddit? How does anyone waste time on that toxic site anymore.

“End Tipping” has plenty of gainfully employed cheapskates. They don’t tip because they’re broke, but because they are CHEAP! I get that tipping is out of control, but if you’re not tipping at a sit down restaurant in the U.S. you are a jerk. The exception here being restaurants that add a service fee.