Typically they get hired in fields that don’t need the remedial skills. Eg, Supreme Court litigator who doesn’t need calculus. Surgeon who doesn’t need to be able to write literary analysis. Investment banker who only speaks English. Elite schools want to produce students who reach a minimum threshold in all areas while also enrolling “spiky” students who are superstars in one area. So, they need to provide remediation in the weaker areas. |
Yes and you’re delusional if you believe intelligent people never need help. Unlike you, who lacks empathy, I can easily see someone being a fairly intelligent person but not being privileged, so they may need a little extra remediation before going into their field of choice or finishing their degree. Not everyone was raised upper middle class. |
As long as it is not waste of tax payers dollars |
| Communism does not work. |
Stop funding wars then we’ll start talking about what is a waste of tax payers money. We have terrible healthcare system and chose to keep a bad one cause we aren’t “socialist,” while paying more for less. An education system with a school to prison pipeline is incredibly costly for society, yet we maintain that. Funding a remedial course so a student can get a degree and contribute back to their community? Least of my concerns and should be yours too if wasteful spending is the issue. |
Neither does capitalism. |
+1 Parents should be involved in their kids’ education, but also they should be able to trust their school to not lie to them about their educational progress. |
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This post highlights something people often overlook: attending a top university doesn’t automatically mean every student there is exceptionally “smart.” Many elite private schools, like WashU, are actively working to increase socioeconomic diversity by expanding financial aid and access for underrepresented students.
Policies like test-optional admissions can also shift the applicant pool in ways that favor disadvantaged students. That’s not inherently a bad thing—it broadens opportunity—but it does show how admissions strategies evolve in response to external pressures. Colleges are also highly responsive to ranking systems. If metrics such as socioeconomic or racial diversity are weighted more heavily, schools will adjust their admissions criteria to improve their standing. At the end of the day, institutions operate with many of the same incentives as businesses: they adapt their strategies to strengthen their position, reputation, and outcomes. |
In short, it is less about students or education |
That wasn’t the case back when honesty and merit actually mattered. |
Same feeling, especially when UCSD is good at CS, Engineering, etc. I guess either they are the quotes they have to take from CC or FGLI etc. |
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It ain't just math. I have friends who are college professors and they say that so many kids get to college and still cannot write -- from the STEM stars to the run-of-the-mill students.
Freshman English classes are mainly about getting students' writing skills up to a minimum baseline. Another skill that kids should be learning before they are allowed to graduate from high school. |
I’m curious how this compares outside the U.S. I’m not sure whether it’s due to K–12 education, social media, or a combination of both, but these issues don’t seem as prominent in Europe. |
| What’s strange is that our education system is far more expensive, both public and private. |
OTOH, you know who is bright and prepared for college. 1000% These are not families who value studying and education. Why do we make that to be such a bag thing. p.s. State-sponsored benefit, lol! Many people live off of all kinds of state-sponsored benefits. Some, in higher ed, some not. |