Does anyone hate it when people dismiss state flagship universities like UW Madison or UIUC as less prestigious schools?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Schools like UGA, Purdue, UW Madison, and UIUC are extremely hard to get into now. I know people with straight As and 1500+ SAT scores who got denied from these places, even in-state. For engineering, UIUC has a sub 10% acceptance rate. You have to be a top student to get into these state flagships

Sure but that does not change the fact that they are safeties for the very top students, just as UVA is for the top few students in each high school in state.

NP. Ah, good old DCUM intentionally and hyperbolically misconstruing "safety" to stir the pot. You know full well they are not "safeties." You want to call them targets, go ahead I guess, but "safety" would be foolish.

Based on SCOIR data not one single student in the top 20% has been rejected from WISC or UGA in the past five cycles. Wisc and UGA are safeties for the top 20%.
UIUC and Purdue (all engineering/cs) have had zero rejections from the top 5% and two total in five cycles from the next cluster down, or about 90% acceptance. Those students use them as backups to Stanford, UCB, ivies for Engineering/CS. They are safeties for the very top. The counseling center for the high school puts them in the "very likely" category, >90%, for these students. They do not have a "safety" category. GT OOS for engineering/cs and UCB OOS are both given match/target status (noted as 25 to 75% chance of acceptance) for the very top group.

[Anonymous]

No it does not bother me. People are idiots about a lot of things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Less prestigious than what? Are you denying they’re less prestigious than MIT, Stanford?

This.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Less prestigious than what? Are you denying they’re less prestigious than MIT, Stanford?

This.

I think the OP knows they are less prestigious. And the OP knows it is weird to dismiss them as less prestigious because the quality of the schools is so high. It's dumb to dismiss schools that offer a stellar education

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Less prestigious than what? Are you denying they’re less prestigious than MIT, Stanford?

This.

I think the OP knows they are less prestigious. And the OP knows it is weird to dismiss them as less prestigious because the quality of the schools is so high. It's dumb to dismiss schools that offer a stellar education

But we all choose the best option given our kid’s profile and financial situation. If UIUC/Wisconsin is the best option available, “dismissing” it is a moot point. But if your kid chooses HYPSM over UIUC/Wisconsin because the former is more prestigious, I don’t see anything wrong with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No it does not bother me. People are idiots about a lot of things.

+1
And this doesn’t happen much anymore. Excellent state schools are in demand and everyone knows it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Schools like UGA, Purdue, UW Madison, and UIUC are extremely hard to get into now. I know people with straight As and 1500+ SAT scores who got denied from these places, even in-state. For engineering, UIUC has a sub 10% acceptance rate. You have to be a top student to get into these state flagships

They don't know what they are missing and it is their loss.

- A UW Alum.