Pomona Vs Claremont Mckenna

[Anonymous]

All I know is that my kid at Chicago sometimes wishes they chose Pomona for the weather. Still happy though

[Anonymous]

I'm a 5Cs parent and dc has close friends at both CMC and Pomona. I wrote earlier about no AC in Pomona dorms. I won't rehash the obvious differences in philosophy or student body, although in dc's friend group there are kids from Scripps, Pomona and CMC. The dining halls are irrelevant school to school. A student is probably eating in a different dining hall every night of the week. Mallot at Scripps is widely considered the best and is the busiest (it also has tons of gorgeous outdoor seating). If you think your student is too good to brush shoulders with Scrippsies or Pitzer kids, the 5C's probably aren't for you. Most of the kids hang and party together. Dd chose Scripps bc it's the only one of the schools to give decent merit aid. CMC is playing the rankings game hard, and capping classes to other schools to reduce their student-teacher ratio and building a new athletic complex, neither of which are meaningful academically. There's also a real Pomona troll on here who always talks shit about it, be warned!

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Anonymous wrote:Pomona has impressive outcomes for the top students and mediocre outcomes for the lower tier students who coast by and don't take it seriously. The school has massive grade inflation and a significant number of their enrolled students are diversity tokens that are not competitive overall (no testing submitted, poor AP scores, etc). These are students who get rejected from mid-tier UCs like Irvine and Santa Barbara but somehow into Pomona. Not to mention a significant number of Questbridge and Posse students who don't have the level of preparation that their smartest students do, both in academics and for career prospects. So overall, Pomona outcomes are very lopsided and dependent on the student.

Everyone at CMC does well in terms of outcomes. The school openly looks for people who are ambitious and determined. It's a preprofessional school and almost everyone talks about preparing for the job market all throughout. Amazing internship programs, 9 research institutes, numerous consulting and finance oriented clubs, and applied classes make their students extremely qualified.

I would strongly recommend CMC. With the rankings shift toward outcomes, CMC is tied or above Pomona in virtually every ranking now. CMC is the one that is looking to take the liberal arts colleges to the future. Pomona will be left behind.

What a racist and classist comment. DS’s roommate is Questbridge and did 16 APs and had a very high SAT with impressive stats. Stop thinking people of color or poor people are less accomplished. What a nasty person, you are.

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Anonymous wrote:Pomona has impressive outcomes for the top students and mediocre outcomes for the lower tier students who coast by and don't take it seriously. The school has massive grade inflation and a significant number of their enrolled students are diversity tokens that are not competitive overall (no testing submitted, poor AP scores, etc). These are students who get rejected from mid-tier UCs like Irvine and Santa Barbara but somehow into Pomona. Not to mention a significant number of Questbridge and Posse students who don't have the level of preparation that their smartest students do, both in academics and for career prospects. So overall, Pomona outcomes are very lopsided and dependent on the student.

Everyone at CMC does well in terms of outcomes. The school openly looks for people who are ambitious and determined. It's a preprofessional school and almost everyone talks about preparing for the job market all throughout. Amazing internship programs, 9 research institutes, numerous consulting and finance oriented clubs, and applied classes make their students extremely qualified.

I would strongly recommend CMC. With the rankings shift toward outcomes, CMC is tied or above Pomona in virtually every ranking now. CMC is the one that is looking to take the liberal arts colleges to the future. Pomona will be left behind.

What a racist and classist comment. DS’s roommate is Questbridge and did 16 APs and had a very high SAT with impressive stats. Stop thinking people of color or poor people are less accomplished. What a nasty person, you are.

+1, a Questbridge student we know at the institution went to the best boarding school in the country, others went to top magnet school but aren’t Questbridge/just low income.

The rankings are mostly bs. CMC is known to tighten their course sizes sharply in the fall (many as small as 8 people) to play the ranking games. After years of adding massive merit scholarships, flashy spending programs on students, and trying to make extravagant admitted students events, they still have less than 1/2 the application pool as Pomona and could barely make a science department worth its salt (while paying professors excess of $400,000 to move from other 5Cs and universities). CMC is so invested in appearance, yet it falls behind still. Last year, Pomona had two tenure track cs positions, and their #1 and #2 choice both accepted their assistant professorships, but CMC tried snatching both with higher pay, and failed, and chose Pomona’s #3 choice. They’ve taken away faculty like Prof. McWilliams-Barndt, but she was losing prominence for years anyway and is bitter that Pomona didn’t lift her to some R1 position like other profs.

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Anonymous wrote:Pomona has impressive outcomes for the top students and mediocre outcomes for the lower tier students who coast by and don't take it seriously. The school has massive grade inflation and a significant number of their enrolled students are diversity tokens that are not competitive overall (no testing submitted, poor AP scores, etc). These are students who get rejected from mid-tier UCs like Irvine and Santa Barbara but somehow into Pomona. Not to mention a significant number of Questbridge and Posse students who don't have the level of preparation that their smartest students do, both in academics and for career prospects. So overall, Pomona outcomes are very lopsided and dependent on the student.

Everyone at CMC does well in terms of outcomes. The school openly looks for people who are ambitious and determined. It's a preprofessional school and almost everyone talks about preparing for the job market all throughout. Amazing internship programs, 9 research institutes, numerous consulting and finance oriented clubs, and applied classes make their students extremely qualified.

I would strongly recommend CMC. With the rankings shift toward outcomes, CMC is tied or above Pomona in virtually every ranking now. CMC is the one that is looking to take the liberal arts colleges to the future. Pomona will be left behind.

This is such an insanely biased comment. Half of the men at CMC are athletic recruits and few submit SAT scores. (You can look up the number of male students playing varsity sports vs how many actual students are there, and then look up the rosters of the indiv sports to see that CMC fields 80-90% of the Mudd-Scripps-CMC joint sports teams. The women's teams do have Scripps contributing as it's an all female school. Mudd is primarily student vs. athlete.) CMC males are hardly the academic best and brightest like Pomona. They are primarily Econ bros and Govt bros who want to go into finance or consulting.

Pomona is a bastion of learning in contrast. The students are very bright, like Mudd. They also are collaborative and civic-minded and curious about many topics, not just making money.

Notice the difference in tours. CMC trains (and pays) their tour guides to deliver a script with pre-approved talking points. Pomona guides are not restricted from saying anything that's not authentic and it's ok for them to share downsides, at CMC they are not allowed to say anything wrong with the school. They are very scripted and polished.

I live in CA and have a lot of intel, and experience, close friends and family who go to or are alums at or who taught at the 5Cs.

Pomona USED TO BE a bastion of learning. It USED to uniformly have bright, curious kids.

Ever since the school shifted to test optional, the qualifications of the student body have dropped considerably. Ever since the school shifted from President Oxtoby to President Starr, the amount of administrative staff have gone up dramatically while the spending on students and faculty have remained stagnant or shrunk. The school went from having a semi-high median GPA in 2015 (3.55) to an absurdly high median GPA now (3.8+) while the students themselves are becoming increasingly less academically qualified with each entering class.

The admissions office cares more about taking people who can write "diverse" narratives than actually strong students. That doesn't have to be mutually exclusive, but it's something their office does emphasize, which results in exceptionally qualified applicants getting rejected if they don't tug at the heart strings of the adcom somehow. Said students get into Ivies, Williams, Amherst, etc. no problem but somehow Pomona is too good for them. On the other hand, you have objectively mediocre kids who have a well-written application and somehow that's enough to get in to a top 10 liberal arts college! Those kids get into no other reaches because other colleges see through the farce by actually reviewing academic credentials. Meanwhile, Pomona gives many of them full rides and basically pampers them throughout the experience. A colossal waste of money, but I guess it doesn't matter because of how high their endowment is. Said students are often overindulgent, unappreciative, and politically disruptive. They want to get their two seconds of fame, but haven't done anything of serious note at the college, which is a shame because it actually offers so many opportunities and resources.

Claremont McKenna packs loans even for the lowest income student because it wants them to understand the gravity and privilege of attending a school of such a caliber. Their students are required to be prudent and thoughtful about maximizing the value of their experience. And as such, they are extremely qualified and they shine for professional endeavors.

Pomona can try to cater to the woke train all they want, but employers and grad schools can see the discrepancy of their students. It's a school going downhill, fast.

DP this is quite the accusation. Can someone close to the ground, with a DC currently at Pomona or works in the local academia community comment on this? No trolls please - you’re confusing 18 years olds who just want a good education and are planning to move far away from their friends and family for it; please set your personal agenda or grudges aside.

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Anonymous wrote:Pomona has impressive outcomes for the top students and mediocre outcomes for the lower tier students who coast by and don't take it seriously. The school has massive grade inflation and a significant number of their enrolled students are diversity tokens that are not competitive overall (no testing submitted, poor AP scores, etc). These are students who get rejected from mid-tier UCs like Irvine and Santa Barbara but somehow into Pomona. Not to mention a significant number of Questbridge and Posse students who don't have the level of preparation that their smartest students do, both in academics and for career prospects. So overall, Pomona outcomes are very lopsided and dependent on the student.

Everyone at CMC does well in terms of outcomes. The school openly looks for people who are ambitious and determined. It's a preprofessional school and almost everyone talks about preparing for the job market all throughout. Amazing internship programs, 9 research institutes, numerous consulting and finance oriented clubs, and applied classes make their students extremely qualified.

I would strongly recommend CMC. With the rankings shift toward outcomes, CMC is tied or above Pomona in virtually every ranking now. CMC is the one that is looking to take the liberal arts colleges to the future. Pomona will be left behind.

This is such an insanely biased comment. Half of the men at CMC are athletic recruits and few submit SAT scores. (You can look up the number of male students playing varsity sports vs how many actual students are there, and then look up the rosters of the indiv sports to see that CMC fields 80-90% of the Mudd-Scripps-CMC joint sports teams. The women's teams do have Scripps contributing as it's an all female school. Mudd is primarily student vs. athlete.) CMC males are hardly the academic best and brightest like Pomona. They are primarily Econ bros and Govt bros who want to go into finance or consulting.

Pomona is a bastion of learning in contrast. The students are very bright, like Mudd. They also are collaborative and civic-minded and curious about many topics, not just making money.

Notice the difference in tours. CMC trains (and pays) their tour guides to deliver a script with pre-approved talking points. Pomona guides are not restricted from saying anything that's not authentic and it's ok for them to share downsides, at CMC they are not allowed to say anything wrong with the school. They are very scripted and polished.

I live in CA and have a lot of intel, and experience, close friends and family who go to or are alums at or who taught at the 5Cs.

Pomona USED TO BE a bastion of learning. It USED to uniformly have bright, curious kids.

Ever since the school shifted to test optional, the qualifications of the student body have dropped considerably. Ever since the school shifted from President Oxtoby to President Starr, the amount of administrative staff have gone up dramatically while the spending on students and faculty have remained stagnant or shrunk. The school went from having a semi-high median GPA in 2015 (3.55) to an absurdly high median GPA now (3.8+) while the students themselves are becoming increasingly less academically qualified with each entering class.

The admissions office cares more about taking people who can write "diverse" narratives than actually strong students. That doesn't have to be mutually exclusive, but it's something their office does emphasize, which results in exceptionally qualified applicants getting rejected if they don't tug at the heart strings of the adcom somehow. Said students get into Ivies, Williams, Amherst, etc. no problem but somehow Pomona is too good for them. On the other hand, you have objectively mediocre kids who have a well-written application and somehow that's enough to get in to a top 10 liberal arts college! Those kids get into no other reaches because other colleges see through the farce by actually reviewing academic credentials. Meanwhile, Pomona gives many of them full rides and basically pampers them throughout the experience. A colossal waste of money, but I guess it doesn't matter because of how high their endowment is. Said students are often overindulgent, unappreciative, and politically disruptive. They want to get their two seconds of fame, but haven't done anything of serious note at the college, which is a shame because it actually offers so many opportunities and resources.

Claremont McKenna packs loans even for the lowest income student because it wants them to understand the gravity and privilege of attending a school of such a caliber. Their students are required to be prudent and thoughtful about maximizing the value of their experience. And as such, they are extremely qualified and they shine for professional endeavors.

Pomona can try to cater to the woke train all they want, but employers and grad schools can see the discrepancy of their students. It's a school going downhill, fast.

DP this is quite the accusation. Can someone close to the ground, with a DC currently at Pomona or works in the local academia community comment on this? No trolls please - you’re confusing 18 years olds who just want a good education and are planning to move far away from their friends and family for it; please set your personal agenda or grudges aside.

Don’t entertain the racist. Notice how they think the downfall of the school is the transition from the white man president to a black woman president, even though it was the white male president, Oxtoby, who expanded Questbridge, expanded financial aid, invited Posse, and made admissions more competitive (it was during his time that the Forbes ranking put #1 for Pomona with Pomona using that as an advertiser within admissions until Starr arrived. Starr isn’t a perfect president, but this racist tirade needs to end.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Pomona has impressive outcomes for the top students and mediocre outcomes for the lower tier students who coast by and don't take it seriously. The school has massive grade inflation and a significant number of their enrolled students are diversity tokens that are not competitive overall (no testing submitted, poor AP scores, etc). These are students who get rejected from mid-tier UCs like Irvine and Santa Barbara but somehow into Pomona. Not to mention a significant number of Questbridge and Posse students who don't have the level of preparation that their smartest students do, both in academics and for career prospects. So overall, Pomona outcomes are very lopsided and dependent on the student.

Everyone at CMC does well in terms of outcomes. The school openly looks for people who are ambitious and determined. It's a preprofessional school and almost everyone talks about preparing for the job market all throughout. Amazing internship programs, 9 research institutes, numerous consulting and finance oriented clubs, and applied classes make their students extremely qualified.

I would strongly recommend CMC. With the rankings shift toward outcomes, CMC is tied or above Pomona in virtually every ranking now. CMC is the one that is looking to take the liberal arts colleges to the future. Pomona will be left behind.

This is such an insanely biased comment. Half of the men at CMC are athletic recruits and few submit SAT scores. (You can look up the number of male students playing varsity sports vs how many actual students are there, and then look up the rosters of the indiv sports to see that CMC fields 80-90% of the Mudd-Scripps-CMC joint sports teams. The women's teams do have Scripps contributing as it's an all female school. Mudd is primarily student vs. athlete.) CMC males are hardly the academic best and brightest like Pomona. They are primarily Econ bros and Govt bros who want to go into finance or consulting.

Pomona is a bastion of learning in contrast. The students are very bright, like Mudd. They also are collaborative and civic-minded and curious about many topics, not just making money.

Notice the difference in tours. CMC trains (and pays) their tour guides to deliver a script with pre-approved talking points. Pomona guides are not restricted from saying anything that's not authentic and it's ok for them to share downsides, at CMC they are not allowed to say anything wrong with the school. They are very scripted and polished.

I live in CA and have a lot of intel, and experience, close friends and family who go to or are alums at or who taught at the 5Cs.

Pomona USED TO BE a bastion of learning. It USED to uniformly have bright, curious kids.

Ever since the school shifted to test optional, the qualifications of the student body have dropped considerably. Ever since the school shifted from President Oxtoby to President Starr, the amount of administrative staff have gone up dramatically while the spending on students and faculty have remained stagnant or shrunk. The school went from having a semi-high median GPA in 2015 (3.55) to an absurdly high median GPA now (3.8+) while the students themselves are becoming increasingly less academically qualified with each entering class.

The admissions office cares more about taking people who can write "diverse" narratives than actually strong students. That doesn't have to be mutually exclusive, but it's something their office does emphasize, which results in exceptionally qualified applicants getting rejected if they don't tug at the heart strings of the adcom somehow. Said students get into Ivies, Williams, Amherst, etc. no problem but somehow Pomona is too good for them. On the other hand, you have objectively mediocre kids who have a well-written application and somehow that's enough to get in to a top 10 liberal arts college! Those kids get into no other reaches because other colleges see through the farce by actually reviewing academic credentials. Meanwhile, Pomona gives many of them full rides and basically pampers them throughout the experience. A colossal waste of money, but I guess it doesn't matter because of how high their endowment is. Said students are often overindulgent, unappreciative, and politically disruptive. They want to get their two seconds of fame, but haven't done anything of serious note at the college, which is a shame because it actually offers so many opportunities and resources.

Claremont McKenna packs loans even for the lowest income student because it wants them to understand the gravity and privilege of attending a school of such a caliber. Their students are required to be prudent and thoughtful about maximizing the value of their experience. And as such, they are extremely qualified and they shine for professional endeavors.

Pomona can try to cater to the woke train all they want, but employers and grad schools can see the discrepancy of their students. It's a school going downhill, fast.

DP this is quite the accusation. Can someone close to the ground, with a DC currently at Pomona or works in the local academia community comment on this? No trolls please - you’re confusing 18 years olds who just want a good education and are planning to move far away from their friends and family for it; please set your personal agenda or grudges aside.

Parent of a recent 5Cs grad here. I’d say you can safely ignore any post with the word “woke” in it - there seem to be lots of random right wing lunatic trolls sh!tposting on DCUM whenever a certain set of school come up.

This poster has zero idea what they are talking about, and this whole frame of reference reflect zero knowledge of the 5Cs as a whole and Pomona in particular.

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Anonymous wrote:Pomona has impressive outcomes for the top students and mediocre outcomes for the lower tier students who coast by and don't take it seriously. The school has massive grade inflation and a significant number of their enrolled students are diversity tokens that are not competitive overall (no testing submitted, poor AP scores, etc). These are students who get rejected from mid-tier UCs like Irvine and Santa Barbara but somehow into Pomona. Not to mention a significant number of Questbridge and Posse students who don't have the level of preparation that their smartest students do, both in academics and for career prospects. So overall, Pomona outcomes are very lopsided and dependent on the student.

Everyone at CMC does well in terms of outcomes. The school openly looks for people who are ambitious and determined. It's a preprofessional school and almost everyone talks about preparing for the job market all throughout. Amazing internship programs, 9 research institutes, numerous consulting and finance oriented clubs, and applied classes make their students extremely qualified.

I would strongly recommend CMC. With the rankings shift toward outcomes, CMC is tied or above Pomona in virtually every ranking now. CMC is the one that is looking to take the liberal arts colleges to the future. Pomona will be left behind.

This is such an insanely biased comment. Half of the men at CMC are athletic recruits and few submit SAT scores. (You can look up the number of male students playing varsity sports vs how many actual students are there, and then look up the rosters of the indiv sports to see that CMC fields 80-90% of the Mudd-Scripps-CMC joint sports teams. The women's teams do have Scripps contributing as it's an all female school. Mudd is primarily student vs. athlete.) CMC males are hardly the academic best and brightest like Pomona. They are primarily Econ bros and Govt bros who want to go into finance or consulting.

Pomona is a bastion of learning in contrast. The students are very bright, like Mudd. They also are collaborative and civic-minded and curious about many topics, not just making money.

Notice the difference in tours. CMC trains (and pays) their tour guides to deliver a script with pre-approved talking points. Pomona guides are not restricted from saying anything that's not authentic and it's ok for them to share downsides, at CMC they are not allowed to say anything wrong with the school. They are very scripted and polished.

I live in CA and have a lot of intel, and experience, close friends and family who go to or are alums at or who taught at the 5Cs.

Pomona USED TO BE a bastion of learning. It USED to uniformly have bright, curious kids.

Ever since the school shifted to test optional, the qualifications of the student body have dropped considerably. Ever since the school shifted from President Oxtoby to President Starr, the amount of administrative staff have gone up dramatically while the spending on students and faculty have remained stagnant or shrunk. The school went from having a semi-high median GPA in 2015 (3.55) to an absurdly high median GPA now (3.8+) while the students themselves are becoming increasingly less academically qualified with each entering class.

The admissions office cares more about taking people who can write "diverse" narratives than actually strong students. That doesn't have to be mutually exclusive, but it's something their office does emphasize, which results in exceptionally qualified applicants getting rejected if they don't tug at the heart strings of the adcom somehow. Said students get into Ivies, Williams, Amherst, etc. no problem but somehow Pomona is too good for them. On the other hand, you have objectively mediocre kids who have a well-written application and somehow that's enough to get in to a top 10 liberal arts college! Those kids get into no other reaches because other colleges see through the farce by actually reviewing academic credentials. Meanwhile, Pomona gives many of them full rides and basically pampers them throughout the experience. A colossal waste of money, but I guess it doesn't matter because of how high their endowment is. Said students are often overindulgent, unappreciative, and politically disruptive. They want to get their two seconds of fame, but haven't done anything of serious note at the college, which is a shame because it actually offers so many opportunities and resources.

Claremont McKenna packs loans even for the lowest income student because it wants them to understand the gravity and privilege of attending a school of such a caliber. Their students are required to be prudent and thoughtful about maximizing the value of their experience. And as such, they are extremely qualified and they shine for professional endeavors.

Pomona can try to cater to the woke train all they want, but employers and grad schools can see the discrepancy of their students. It's a school going downhill, fast.

DP this is quite the accusation. Can someone close to the ground, with a DC currently at Pomona or works in the local academia community comment on this? No trolls please - you’re confusing 18 years olds who just want a good education and are planning to move far away from their friends and family for it; please set your personal agenda or grudges aside.

Parent of a recent 5Cs grad here. I’d say you can safely ignore any post with the word “woke” in it - there seem to be lots of random right wing lunatic trolls sh!tposting on DCUM whenever a certain set of school come up.

This poster has zero idea what they are talking about, and this whole frame of reference reflect zero knowledge of the 5Cs as a whole and Pomona in particular.

So your recent 5C grad thinks highly positively of Pomona?

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Anonymous wrote:Pomona has impressive outcomes for the top students and mediocre outcomes for the lower tier students who coast by and don't take it seriously. The school has massive grade inflation and a significant number of their enrolled students are diversity tokens that are not competitive overall (no testing submitted, poor AP scores, etc). These are students who get rejected from mid-tier UCs like Irvine and Santa Barbara but somehow into Pomona. Not to mention a significant number of Questbridge and Posse students who don't have the level of preparation that their smartest students do, both in academics and for career prospects. So overall, Pomona outcomes are very lopsided and dependent on the student.

Everyone at CMC does well in terms of outcomes. The school openly looks for people who are ambitious and determined. It's a preprofessional school and almost everyone talks about preparing for the job market all throughout. Amazing internship programs, 9 research institutes, numerous consulting and finance oriented clubs, and applied classes make their students extremely qualified.

I would strongly recommend CMC. With the rankings shift toward outcomes, CMC is tied or above Pomona in virtually every ranking now. CMC is the one that is looking to take the liberal arts colleges to the future. Pomona will be left behind.

This is such an insanely biased comment. Half of the men at CMC are athletic recruits and few submit SAT scores. (You can look up the number of male students playing varsity sports vs how many actual students are there, and then look up the rosters of the indiv sports to see that CMC fields 80-90% of the Mudd-Scripps-CMC joint sports teams. The women's teams do have Scripps contributing as it's an all female school. Mudd is primarily student vs. athlete.) CMC males are hardly the academic best and brightest like Pomona. They are primarily Econ bros and Govt bros who want to go into finance or consulting.

Pomona is a bastion of learning in contrast. The students are very bright, like Mudd. They also are collaborative and civic-minded and curious about many topics, not just making money.

Notice the difference in tours. CMC trains (and pays) their tour guides to deliver a script with pre-approved talking points. Pomona guides are not restricted from saying anything that's not authentic and it's ok for them to share downsides, at CMC they are not allowed to say anything wrong with the school. They are very scripted and polished.

I live in CA and have a lot of intel, and experience, close friends and family who go to or are alums at or who taught at the 5Cs.

Pomona USED TO BE a bastion of learning. It USED to uniformly have bright, curious kids.

Ever since the school shifted to test optional, the qualifications of the student body have dropped considerably. Ever since the school shifted from President Oxtoby to President Starr, the amount of administrative staff have gone up dramatically while the spending on students and faculty have remained stagnant or shrunk. The school went from having a semi-high median GPA in 2015 (3.55) to an absurdly high median GPA now (3.8+) while the students themselves are becoming increasingly less academically qualified with each entering class.

The admissions office cares more about taking people who can write "diverse" narratives than actually strong students. That doesn't have to be mutually exclusive, but it's something their office does emphasize, which results in exceptionally qualified applicants getting rejected if they don't tug at the heart strings of the adcom somehow. Said students get into Ivies, Williams, Amherst, etc. no problem but somehow Pomona is too good for them. On the other hand, you have objectively mediocre kids who have a well-written application and somehow that's enough to get in to a top 10 liberal arts college! Those kids get into no other reaches because other colleges see through the farce by actually reviewing academic credentials. Meanwhile, Pomona gives many of them full rides and basically pampers them throughout the experience. A colossal waste of money, but I guess it doesn't matter because of how high their endowment is. Said students are often overindulgent, unappreciative, and politically disruptive. They want to get their two seconds of fame, but haven't done anything of serious note at the college, which is a shame because it actually offers so many opportunities and resources.

Claremont McKenna packs loans even for the lowest income student because it wants them to understand the gravity and privilege of attending a school of such a caliber. Their students are required to be prudent and thoughtful about maximizing the value of their experience. And as such, they are extremely qualified and they shine for professional endeavors.

Pomona can try to cater to the woke train all they want, but employers and grad schools can see the discrepancy of their students. It's a school going downhill, fast.

DP this is quite the accusation. Can someone close to the ground, with a DC currently at Pomona or works in the local academia community comment on this? No trolls please - you’re confusing 18 years olds who just want a good education and are planning to move far away from their friends and family for it; please set your personal agenda or grudges aside.

Parent of a recent 5Cs grad here. I’d say you can safely ignore any post with the word “woke” in it - there seem to be lots of random right wing lunatic trolls sh!tposting on DCUM whenever a certain set of school come up.

This poster has zero idea what they are talking about, and this whole frame of reference reflect zero knowledge of the 5Cs as a whole and Pomona in particular.

So your recent 5C grad thinks highly positively of Pomona?

We know a recent Pomona grad who raved about his time.

[Anonymous]

Recently toured and went to an admitted student event for Scripps and all these campuses are beautiful! Really love the whole 5C consortium concept. Each school has its own ethos and personality, but it seems there’s a lot of cross-pollination and ability to experience the other campuses, including taking classes, dining, and mingling with different students. I’d pick the one your student prefers most, but keep in mind they can dabble at the other quite a bit (except for housing and a few other restrictions).

[Anonymous]

Pomona seems like a great community. My kid has no interest in Economics however.

[Anonymous]

Interested in what your family has heard about integrated sciences.

[Anonymous]

I thought it was interesting that Pomona College among LACs was tied for 8th place for undergraduate teaching quality, while CMC was all the way down tied for 48th place for undergraduate teaching by USNWR.

(Carleton fyi was rated #1 for undergrad teaching.)

[Anonymous]

CMC is obviously the better choice. It’s up and coming, well endowed, has so many resources and is loved by students. Pomona had nothing notable going on and the students hate it.

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Anonymous wrote:CMC is obviously the better choice. It’s up and coming, well endowed, has so many resources and is loved by students. Pomona had nothing notable going on and the students hate it.

This is an insane comment that has no credibility whatsoever. Please give it a rest CMC booster. Nobody cares about your BS.